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Children on my front wall

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LighthouseTheme · 20/08/2024 23:22

I have a small wall (2 feet high maybe) at the front edge of my garden. The garden itself is small anyway - three big slabs width from the porch/front door (with a set back area under the front window, and a gated path down the side of the house to the back). There is also a low gate that I had put on as the fact that the path slopes slightly and there is no barrier between my neighbours, meant that it was sometimes used for scooters. [I do feel a diagram might help...]

It has only been in this last year that I have done much to the front - as it is south facing and almost any plants will certainly die. But I now have some hardy-ish ones in planters, a wreath on the side gate and a pear tree and honeysuckle trying their best on the side wall and high fence to the other side.

This last year, a new neighbour's daughter decided that the wall is perfect to walk along and jump off (I think she is 10). As my car is on the road outside, I would quite often see her do this. Despite having been friendly towards them, she often walks past and, without her mother seeing, and without looking back, gives me the finger gesture. I added some plants on the inside of the wall at two spots, making it pointless to walk along the full length of the wall, but she still did it, stepping on the leaves of the plants.

Tonight, I could hear loud voices right outside, and when I looked, a group of (definitely pre-teen) girls were on the wall, all facing my house, dancing and jumping around. There was definitely a goading feel to it - but I only (I think) know them by sight. By the time I had got myself together to go and speak to them, they had gone.

A little while later, I had gone out to my car, and two of them (plus a little boy, I think a brother) came back, not seeing me at first and climbing straight onto the wall. So, in the conversation we had, it seems that I have to let them do it as they "are kids", they want to learn to balance, I am unfair and spoiling their lives and basically what do I know, they can do what they want... oh, and I'm a Karen.

So, apart from this moan, I am at a loss. The wall covers the length front of both my house and next door and so at my side, there are the plants in pots at either "end", and usually a bowl of water for dogs on the pavement side. But nothing for the half of the length outside next door.

My pathetic passive-aggressive attempts to prevent it are obviously not enough to stop them - and I fully expect to be ramped up now - or worse (I live in/close to a not-so-great area - and have been burgled and bullied and targeted in the past); sadly, the behaviour even at the start seemed very "goady" anyway, so I don't doubt I have already done something to warrant it.

Oh, what to do?
And I don't really think IABU but maybe I should let them just carry on.... (which I don't want to do)

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Brickiscool · 21/08/2024 08:42

Also, I don't know how old you are but I can't hear cat scarers any more. My teens can and they tell me the noise is annoying. You can buy tiny battery operated ones

GOODCAT · 21/08/2024 08:41

EleanorMc67 · 21/08/2024 00:28

Can you lift the slabs, fork over the soil, plant lots of heat & drought-tolerant plants that are good in poor-ish soil (grasses/euphorbia/rosemary/yucca etc), then dress it with a few cms of 4-10mm pea shingle? Basically a narrow gravel garden where the plants will eventually establish against & over the wall?

This is a good idea. Although I like your boiling oil and drawbridge even more!

Brickiscool · 21/08/2024 08:40

I think the flowers near your front wall could do with fresh manure compost from your local garden centre. I do my roses once a year. It stinks. I wouldn't sit on a wall next to that. The smell doesn't last long, but long enough to get the children out the habit of sitting there.

NoSquirrels · 21/08/2024 08:31

nocoolnamesleft · 20/08/2024 23:24

Hmmm. You want some hardy really fast growing very spiky plants. Are you fond of blackberries?

Pyracantha.

Made for this exact situation! (And birds love it. Win-win)

SensibleSigma · 21/08/2024 08:28

Bird food. Sprinkle bird food along the wall. The wood pigeons wil start to hang out there and poop on it.

BreatheAndFocus · 21/08/2024 08:27

Get a metal railing and in the meantime go out and have a ‘friendly chat’ with them every time you see them. Ask them about school, ask them if they’d like you to knit them a jumper, tell them about a relative who has rheumy eyes, ask them if they’ve seen X old film, ask them if they like X old singer, etc etc. Be super-nice. They won’t be able to get away from you fast enough!

There was a lady where I lived as a child who would always come out to speak to children playing outside her house. I’m sure she was very nice and probably just a bit lonely, but it made us cringe. As a result we found another place to play further down.

Dont try to scold these children. You’ll be wasting your breath. Deter them with kindness and embarrassment.

Andwegoroundagain · 21/08/2024 08:05

I think you just need to put the metal railing. It's quite simple to fix on with a drill. Or if you want to do something less dramatic just add metal studs every 50 cm or so.
Engaging with them or their parents won't help. All you can do is deter. I suspect plants won't deter if they are in pots. So railing is the only answer

MILLYmo0se · 21/08/2024 08:01

Squirt Jeyes fluid along the front of your wall, the stench tens to discourage lurkers. I think the more you actively engage with the kids the more they are going to try to annoy you, given they are actually arguing back with an adult. Lots of kids would be tempted to walk along a wall, didn't we all (though ten is probably a bit on the older side for that temptation) but most decent kids would stay well away after being told to

Notmybill · 21/08/2024 07:57

Anti climb paint?

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 21/08/2024 07:55

Also, talk to her parents about it?

reallyworriedjobhunter · 21/08/2024 06:32

I would get a doorbell camera.

Maria1979 · 21/08/2024 06:08

A 10-year old girl gave you the finger ? Where do you live? My DC (11) has some tough class mates but NOONE would dare give the finger to an adult! I would talk to your neighbour about the wall. Tell her you saw some teenagers drinking beer there once and therefore you will put vandal paint on it and you just wanted to let her know so her children don't climb up there. Don't say anything about her daughter. If she's giving the finger the parents are crap and won't care anyway, they will just be angry with you for pointing out their shitty parenting.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 21/08/2024 06:07

forgot to add the photo 🙈

Children on my front wall
HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 21/08/2024 06:06

Can you do something like this OP?

mortgagefreesoon5 · 21/08/2024 05:59

If they fall from your wall and hurt themselves, whose responsibility is it? Can you get sued?
If parents don't listen, I would report it to their school so it's on record you have tried to dissuade them .
As per above poster suggestion, a snappy "Oi, you little sods , get off my wall" did the trick when we were children.

gerispringer · 21/08/2024 05:53

My sister had this problem with kids sitting on her walk and chucking crisp bags etc into her garden. In the end she replaced the wall with a wooden fence and a yew hedge.

Lacdulancelot · 21/08/2024 05:49

Next time you see them just say ‘ be careful, I saw wasps going in the wall there must be a nest.’

sashh · 21/08/2024 05:40

Can you borrow a snappy dog? Jack Russels can be a bit nippy.

Could you convince them you are a witch? Chalk pentagram on the floor, twig figures al a Blair Witch?

A big tub on honey. It is sticky and attracts ants.

Get a ring doorbell and film the girl giving you the finger. Do you know what school the kids go to? Sometimes head teachers can be more effective than parents.

YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 21/08/2024 02:19

They are doing this FOR the reaction. I know it would be tough, but if you just ignored them it will stop being fun and they will most likely move on

SaintHonoria · 21/08/2024 01:09

Broken slaps in rough jagged triangle shapes cemented on the top of the wall.

RedTinselCat · 21/08/2024 01:05

Get a camera. People are far less likely to misbehave when they think you have it recorded.

Justrelax · 21/08/2024 00:55

Sounds extremely similar to my house. We get lots of kids walking along the wall or sitting on the wall (facing out though not in). It does irritate me (the sitting, not really the walking as I remember being a kid and doing that) so I was all set to tell you just to ignore them, but the little cow giving you the finger is infuriating.

I do still think ignoring is the best way though, because of the way you describe your area. Being targeted or having conflict with neighbours could make life absolutely miserable. As someone else said, they're off back to school soon, and it's going to be dark and - they're going to grow up. This is temporary. In the meantime I am uncharitable enough to hope she's focusing so hard on giving you the finger that she slips and falls off.

LighthouseTheme · 21/08/2024 00:51

Allthehorsesintheworld · 21/08/2024 00:43

Troughs along the wall? Drill through the bottom of each, attach with bolts so they can’t be pushed off. Nice spiky plants in them.

I did that - but with just little planter boxes, and minus the spiky plants.
But it didn't look great, and I couldn't put spiky plants due to next door's little girl.
The worst I have are Cordyline (which are getting stood on), and the planters mean they aren't quite over the wall enough to be an affective deterrent, if a deterrent at all.

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