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sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 20:07

I recently had a HV come round. She appeared a little rigid and looked like she was attending a wedding but she seemed chatty and reflected back lots of positive things she was seeing. Today I had a SW unexpectantly visit and after she read out everything that the HV had raised, to say I was shocked is an understatement. Both my DH were there and the HV literally fabricated and misrepresented things she saw. The SW was lovely and stated she had no concerns and let me know I could make a complaint (I have).

So WTF! I'm still in shock. The HV asked me at the time whether I wanted another visit and I said no, and then SS turn up!

OP posts:
Bellsandthistle · 21/08/2024 02:04

So many people seem to have had terrible experiences with health visitors, myself included. What is that about?

Of course there are amazing ones, too, but it does stand out that there are so many awful experiences, more than say with midwives, or even social workers. Is it a training issue? Are certain types of people attracted to the role? There’s something going on.

HauntedbyMagpies · 21/08/2024 01:59

againtomorrow · 20/08/2024 22:28

i agree that a 4 year old girl should not be left to sleep alone with dad, why does the OP move to a different bed, why can't dad go?

Me too, that really creeped me out.

HauntedbyMagpies · 21/08/2024 01:55

@Cerealkiller4U I'm so sorry you went through that. How is your DD now?

Exposingthetruth · 21/08/2024 01:53

HauntedbyMagpies · 21/08/2024 01:41

@sotiredandconfused Why have you posted on here if you refuse to describe any of the main issue? I'm so confused

For moral support and to vent her shock/anger. She has given examples which is more than enough. We don't need specifics. They'd only detract from what the OP needs from her post.

TheHazelDuck · 21/08/2024 01:43

Health visitors are c u n t ,@#$$ they will shop you to ss for anything

HauntedbyMagpies · 21/08/2024 01:41

@sotiredandconfused Why have you posted on here if you refuse to describe any of the main issue? I'm so confused

Exposingthetruth · 21/08/2024 01:39

I've just remembered some other things the HV wrote in the HV notes:

  1. She stated that the next appointment was on X date and that "mum probably won't turn up". Cheeky cow. I did turn up as it happens.
  2. After I made a formal complaint about her, and told her supervisor that she was not to have anything to do with my family again, the HV then wrote a letter to my GP, stating she had "significant concerns", for my baby's welfare. This was several months after the SW that she had involved had clearly stated there were no safeguarding concerns, and NFA had been taken. This HV, seriously had it in for me. I swear, if I had a well-spoken southern English accent, this wouldn't have happened. Snobby stuck-up bitch.

My HV with my previous child was AMAZING, (she was from the same place as me).

WearyAuldWumman · 21/08/2024 01:28

CatMum10 · 21/08/2024 01:18

I had a SW visit after DD was born. HV had reported that I had bruises on my arms. I'd had a c sec and have weak veins from a connective tissue disorder. She didn't ask me. I wasn't in a happy relationship but there was no physical violence by that point. It created a lot of unnecessary stress for me. She didn't even ask me during the visit, just made assumptions re a lot of things. For example I had a baby bouncer chair like millions of parents, and she said that I was getting baby to sleep sat up. Wtf..? DD had a moses basket downstairs, bassinet pram, beanbag... she just made up a load of stuff and there were 0 repercussions for it. She was lovely to my face and expressed no concerns whatsoever. Nothing came of the referral but it was a shock. I believe you because this happened to me!

In my situation, I didn't immediately realise what was going on. I got a phone call from the social worker. (We'd had another one who was wonderfully supportive when Mum was still living in her own rented home; the new one took over after Mum moved in with us: we built on accommodation for her.)

I can't remember exactly what she said to me, but once the penny dropped I angrily told her go consult the nutritionist. I was later told that the nutritionist had said that we were already doing everything that she would have suggested.

I suppose they might also have contacted Mum's GP, in order to get confirmation of her medical history. (I had previously nursed Mum through a bad chest infection with the help of the Hospital at Home service, courtesy of her marvellous GP.)

Harvesthome · 21/08/2024 01:19

creepywoman · 20/08/2024 22:04

I don’t understand what you mean by she was dressed for a wedding? So she had extremely nice hair? Nice makeup on? A dress fit for a ball and heels on? A hat? What was she actually wearing?

I’m going to assume she was wearing a fascinator. It doesn’t really matter because the SW had no concerns.

CatMum10 · 21/08/2024 01:18

I had a SW visit after DD was born. HV had reported that I had bruises on my arms. I'd had a c sec and have weak veins from a connective tissue disorder. She didn't ask me. I wasn't in a happy relationship but there was no physical violence by that point. It created a lot of unnecessary stress for me. She didn't even ask me during the visit, just made assumptions re a lot of things. For example I had a baby bouncer chair like millions of parents, and she said that I was getting baby to sleep sat up. Wtf..? DD had a moses basket downstairs, bassinet pram, beanbag... she just made up a load of stuff and there were 0 repercussions for it. She was lovely to my face and expressed no concerns whatsoever. Nothing came of the referral but it was a shock. I believe you because this happened to me!

Exposingthetruth · 21/08/2024 01:14

I've had a scarily similar experience in the past with my HV. Dressed to the nines, all fake niceness in front of me, then reported me to SS without my knowledge. When I got a SAR of our HV records, they made for shocking reading. She lied and fabricated so many things. I too had an unexpected knock from a SW at the door. No further action thankfully.

It's frustrating when you get so many commenters who question and don't believe you. Or say how they work with SS/HV and this would never happen etc. It absolutely does happen. Some HV's & SW's don't follow procedures at all times, some also are incompetent, some also are down right corrupt and lie and fabricate things on records. Believe me, it happens.

I used to be a teacher, and to say I was appalled at the things the HV wrote about me in the HV notes is an understatement. She basically implied I was a piece of scum, this was purely based on me not having a posh southern English accent (I'm not from the area), she was basically a snob who thought northerners were scummy and not competent to raise children without SS intervention. She also didn't believe that I owned our house and wrote in the HV notes "mother claims she owns the house, but it must be rented". Honestly, you can't make this shit up. No doubt, there will be plenty who refuse to believe me, but the SAR records don't lie!!!

@sotiredandconfused I'm sorry you've been put through this. I've been there, and it's really fucking shit. I'm glad you've made a complaint against that piece of shit HV. Good luck x

Cem82 · 21/08/2024 00:53

I think many kids pretend to be animals - my daughter (3) woke up as a butterfly emerging from her cocoon and has since been a cat, dinosaur, dog and monster in one day. It’s completely normal imaginative play - I love that she has such a huge imagination and we usually join in with her running around pretending to be creatures. The cat phase is annoying when you are going for a walk and suddenly they’re a cat on all fours refusing to move lol.

Sleeping with their dad is fine, so not strange. My daughter comes in most mornings around 5am and mostly I stay with her but I often get tired of being kicked in the head and ask him to take a turn being a football. He’ll often fall asleep next to her reading stories and I’ll have to wake him up.

WearyAuldWumman · 21/08/2024 00:41

DemocracyR · 21/08/2024 00:28

In what respect? I’m assuming she didn’t turn up in a floor length dress and the biggest complaint is just literally the fabric.

It doesn't seem very practical and does seem over dressy. As I said, I'm old. However, I should imagine that someone dressed like that might have difficulty interacting with a small child. Her choice.

WearyAuldWumman · 21/08/2024 00:39

Ace56 · 21/08/2024 00:07

Sorry but no smoke without fire. If your family are involved with SS there’s a reason for that.

Bull. I was involved with SS because my late mother had dementia and we had to organise homecare through them.

Mum went to daycare once a week. SS conducted a brief investigation because daycare thought Mum wasn't being fed. Fortunately, our care team and the local nutritionist put that accusation to bed. ( I worked full time.)

Mum was painfully thin because she was in her late 80s, had dementia and was refusing to eat normally. She also had extreme osteoporosis which compressed her internal organs. By then, her breakfast consisted of a large bowl of Rice Krispies. Other meals were sweet things only plus nutritional drinks. I'd asked to see the nutritionist in case there was anything else we could try.

Mum had been picked up late for daycare, it turned out, so she'd not had a mid-morning snack. (On non-daycare days, a carer would cut a cake into small pieces for her.) When she got there: "Are you hungry?"

"Starving!"

The other evidence of her being starved was that there were rice krispies on the floor when she was picked up. She had still been eating when the carer had left. She used to spill food by then, so the bowl was always filled to the top. (She was still able to feed herself at that point; later, we had to feed her.)

DemocracyR · 21/08/2024 00:28

WearyAuldWumman · 21/08/2024 00:25

I'm old, I guess, but a satin dress really doesn't sound like an appropriate outfit for a home visit.

In what respect? I’m assuming she didn’t turn up in a floor length dress and the biggest complaint is just literally the fabric.

WearyAuldWumman · 21/08/2024 00:25

DemocracyR · 20/08/2024 23:25

Sorry but this is utter nonsense. You cannot judge her ability to do her job based on her being dressed too well. That’s insane. I don’t doubt that you feel unfairly judged, and probably you’re fair on that. But you are losing any basis for a complaint by complaining she was ‘dressed for a wedding’. Which is honestly a really weird thing to say.

I'm old, I guess, but a satin dress really doesn't sound like an appropriate outfit for a home visit.

Nadeed · 21/08/2024 00:16

@mouseyowl OP said she lives in a disadvantaged area

Petitchat · 21/08/2024 00:16

ForGreyKoala · 21/08/2024 00:08

What OP considers OTT or "wedding attire" might be just well dressed to someone else.

There was no need to be rude to that poster.

I wasn't being rude.
I genuinely think that poster needs some help with understanding the thread.

mouseyowl · 21/08/2024 00:13

@Nadeed is Wales 'a poor area' bit of a sweeping statement!

Op you sound a little unhinged.

I'm very MC, the posh end, and I've been to weddings where people turn up liking like they've wandered in from the supermarket, so you are going to have to describe what 'posh' 'dressed up for a wedding' looks like.
I actually observed the posher you are the more disheveled you can look, so she doesn't sound posh to me.

As your DD is likely to be ND did you realise that trauma can manifest as ND, especially in young non-verbal children.
I have no idea if you were defensively spoiling for a fight with the HV or she genuinely has throw lots of complete false curve balls which would obviously would shock and hurt anyone in that situation.

Is the DP sleeping with your DD biologically her father? Because if not (and I know NAMALT) that would make me feel uncomfortable about the situation. I know that's bad, but stepfathers especially account for such a huge percentage of sexual abuse reported. I know loads won't like me saying that, I'm not trying to be inflammatory.

Petitchat · 21/08/2024 00:11

HiHo2024 · 21/08/2024 00:01

Then why bother making your post.

You don't need to mention every little detail to make a post.

WearyAuldWumman · 21/08/2024 00:10

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:10

My daughters aninal behaviour was regarded as abnormal, including how she spoke (she’ll imitate animals sound). As the SW observed my daughter more she saw a decline in this otherwise innocent behaviour.behavioir that doesn't interfere with her everyday activities, sleep etc. SW stated she didn't have concerns about this behaviour. The HV should have known this, yet regarded it as abnormal (incorrect and used this as evidence?

The HV is crazy.

WearyAuldWumman · 21/08/2024 00:09

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:06

Another concern... Our daughter cosleeps with dad and I sometimes leave to sleep in the spare room. There was an insinuation because dad is a male and therefore a deviant. It was written and read in ‘that’ way. My DHs face fell, and all I could say to him was ‘im so sorry’.

Bloody hell.

My mum had a long hospital stay when I was 7. I stayed with an aunt and uncle during the week and Dad at the weekends. Sometimes I cuddled in with him. It was comforting, particularly since I was missing Mum.

ForGreyKoala · 21/08/2024 00:08

Petitchat · 20/08/2024 23:59

Don't you understand OTT?
It means over the top and seeing as OP describes it as wedding attire, I would assume she means over the top.

Do acquire some help with your lack of understanding because it makes it difficult for other posters.

What OP considers OTT or "wedding attire" might be just well dressed to someone else.

There was no need to be rude to that poster.

HiHo2024 · 21/08/2024 00:07

NoSquirrels · 20/08/2024 20:18

That is the weirdest explanation of what was misrepresented I’ve ever read on here.

@sotiredandconfused Totally agree with this. TBH If I was the HV and you behaved/spoke/demonstrated a lack of lucidity like this during a visit I would be concerned.

Ace56 · 21/08/2024 00:07

Sorry but no smoke without fire. If your family are involved with SS there’s a reason for that.