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sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 20:07

I recently had a HV come round. She appeared a little rigid and looked like she was attending a wedding but she seemed chatty and reflected back lots of positive things she was seeing. Today I had a SW unexpectantly visit and after she read out everything that the HV had raised, to say I was shocked is an understatement. Both my DH were there and the HV literally fabricated and misrepresented things she saw. The SW was lovely and stated she had no concerns and let me know I could make a complaint (I have).

So WTF! I'm still in shock. The HV asked me at the time whether I wanted another visit and I said no, and then SS turn up!

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Hennypen321 · 21/08/2024 06:48

My initial HV neglected her responsibility for looking after me, I got very sick. I complained and said I never wanted her to work with me anymore and that was fine, it was recorded and another HV was assigned to me.

RedHelenB · 21/08/2024 06:48

readysteadynono · 21/08/2024 06:19

That’s really worrying because a) sounds very normal and b) even if it was ‘abnormal’ the proper way to manage a child who isn’t pretending/imagining in the way you would expect, would be to discuss with parents (possibly nursery) a referral to a paedatrician not SS.

But if there's a cage, and a bowl on the floor with dog food for the child to eat from then it would be a matter for SS. A hv would know about a child's development and imaginary play, somewhere there must have been concerns it was more than that.

PersephonePomegranate23 · 21/08/2024 06:47

BirthdayRainbow · 21/08/2024 06:08

A four year old can't offer anything on a plate in this scenario.

No, they can't! Some people's minds!!

It's perfectly normal for a child to want to snuggle in with a caregiver to feel safe.

Poor OP is reporting that the HV has distorted facts an acted unprofessionally, SS has even suggested making a complaint against her yet here are the MN mafia insisting there's something going on an there's no smoke without fire!

Piggiesinblankets · 21/08/2024 06:34

What I would say is health visitors are over worked and under staffed. Social services forms take time to fill in. Time not allocated to a visit. Even if unfounded later, its highly unlikely she made a referral for the jolly of it with no factual purpose.

Codlingmoths · 21/08/2024 06:32

Justrelax · 20/08/2024 21:43

I agree with you it sounds frustrating, but making complaints about professionals involved with your child when they raise concerns is generally a really bad idea.

However, making complaints about professionals where they make up concerns does seem appropriate.

readysteadynono · 21/08/2024 06:19

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:10

My daughters aninal behaviour was regarded as abnormal, including how she spoke (she’ll imitate animals sound). As the SW observed my daughter more she saw a decline in this otherwise innocent behaviour.behavioir that doesn't interfere with her everyday activities, sleep etc. SW stated she didn't have concerns about this behaviour. The HV should have known this, yet regarded it as abnormal (incorrect and used this as evidence?

That’s really worrying because a) sounds very normal and b) even if it was ‘abnormal’ the proper way to manage a child who isn’t pretending/imagining in the way you would expect, would be to discuss with parents (possibly nursery) a referral to a paedatrician not SS.

BirthdayRainbow · 21/08/2024 06:08

againtomorrow · 20/08/2024 22:35

oh i can assure you that no i do not... but have you also heard of 'being offered up on a plate'?

theres no way on gods green earth i would allow my DD to sleep in bed alone with a man, and i don't care who that man is, and i know for sure my DH would have been horrified if i'd suggested it!

A four year old can't offer anything on a plate in this scenario.

OhcantthInkofaname · 21/08/2024 06:03

takeyourluckwhereyoufindit · 20/08/2024 21:25

Also, can you explain the bit where you said the HV "looked like she was attending a wedding".

I know you're all for metaphor, but I'm neurodivergent and really struggling to understand your post when you don't just say what actually happened. That's not a dig, I'm just asking you to consider a range of readers for your post.

I took it to mean more dressed to attend a formal function than business attire. Inappropriate clothing.

BirthdayRainbow · 21/08/2024 05:53

You do know that this is an anonymous site and you could post it all and no one would know it is you?

MelodyMalone · 21/08/2024 05:19

According to some posters here, no mother should ever allow any male, including the child's father, to be alone with their child in case they sexually abuse them. This seems quite sad.

I appreciate people have had their own traumatic experiences but that doesn't mean everyone is to be distrusted.

My daughter is now a teenager but often slept in our bed as a young child, and if I was away for work she'd get in with her dad. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this and no reason for concern.

On the clothes front, I understand what the OP means. I was a social worker previously and worked hard to build rapport with people - dressing inappropriately smartly can be intimidating for some.

Werweisswohin · 21/08/2024 04:33

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:55

Sausage dog

A Dachshund you mean?

Werweisswohin · 21/08/2024 04:30

Perpetuallydaisy · 20/08/2024 22:27

While the OP's experience wrt London Bridge and the Taj Mahal sounds bizarre and stressful, I just want to balance the view of health visitors in general with my really good experience.

We were unfairly reported to social services (who then apologised and asked if we wanted to make a complaint) when I was pregnant. Our health visitor was amazingly supportive, wrote to SS standing up for us, visited regularly and helped us through the process.

Not to invalidate others' experiences, as it's true there are unprofessional professionals in any profession, however good/mad at lego! Just to say some are lovely people and great at their jobs, too.

Our HV was lovely too. Still see her about the town and she still asks how son is getting on, in a nice and not nosy way. I have heard of other more apparently 'judgey' ones, although for some reason, HV don't always get a lot of respect even though they're qualified professionals.

Werweisswohin · 21/08/2024 04:26

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Lots of partners of male abusers clearly don't think they would be abusers, but they are. Not making any accusations about OPs partner of course.

EsmeSusanOgg · 21/08/2024 04:23

@sotiredandconfused make a SAR for the complete notes/ anything the HV has said regarding you and your family. You can also make a SAR on behalf of your DD.

Also make a SAR to social services, but after you have had the planned visit. That way you can capture everything that has been said and done. Very helpful for making a complaint.

Also, follow up the SW visit today in writing. Make sure you have a full paper trail.

If you are making a complaint, cc in your MS and MP.

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sotiredandconfused · 21/08/2024 04:21

Exposingthetruth · 21/08/2024 01:14

I've had a scarily similar experience in the past with my HV. Dressed to the nines, all fake niceness in front of me, then reported me to SS without my knowledge. When I got a SAR of our HV records, they made for shocking reading. She lied and fabricated so many things. I too had an unexpected knock from a SW at the door. No further action thankfully.

It's frustrating when you get so many commenters who question and don't believe you. Or say how they work with SS/HV and this would never happen etc. It absolutely does happen. Some HV's & SW's don't follow procedures at all times, some also are incompetent, some also are down right corrupt and lie and fabricate things on records. Believe me, it happens.

I used to be a teacher, and to say I was appalled at the things the HV wrote about me in the HV notes is an understatement. She basically implied I was a piece of scum, this was purely based on me not having a posh southern English accent (I'm not from the area), she was basically a snob who thought northerners were scummy and not competent to raise children without SS intervention. She also didn't believe that I owned our house and wrote in the HV notes "mother claims she owns the house, but it must be rented". Honestly, you can't make this shit up. No doubt, there will be plenty who refuse to believe me, but the SAR records don't lie!!!

@sotiredandconfused I'm sorry you've been put through this. I've been there, and it's really fucking shit. I'm glad you've made a complaint against that piece of shit HV. Good luck x

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Werweisswohin · 21/08/2024 04:20

This thread is pointless because there isn't enough information for anyone to form an opinion.
As it is, while it's maybe horrible to feel like you're being investigated, it's even more horrible to imagine that any worries a HV might have would be ignored when there actually are issues.

sotiredandconfused · 21/08/2024 04:18

Nadeed · 21/08/2024 00:16

@mouseyowl OP said she lives in a disadvantaged area

No I didn't and no I don't.

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lemonmeringueno3 · 21/08/2024 04:15

Well she might be a malicious individual who enjoys upsetting parents, wasting the time of professional colleagues and also limiting her career by eroding their trust in her judgment.

Or she genuinely felt some concerns for your child and did what she thought was right, even if we now know that there were some misunderstandings.

Ultimately, she was concerned and made a referral. Of course you didn't like the experience, but your child is her prime concern so, as she was worried, she did the right thing. The system, in this case, worked. Because SS visited to assess the situation, were satisfied, and that's the end of it.

Some of your responses on here have been a bit unusual - criticism of her for wearing a sundress, not wanting to reveal what the concerns were, paranoia about revealing details and then posting details of your health board. So maybe there were some unusual behaviours in rl too, or maybe your communication and conversation wasn't clear or raised some flags on the day. Are you ND, like your daughter?

Ultimately, HV sees a lot of 4 year old kids and knows that they often pretend to be animals. Despite this, she had concerns about your child. Referrals are not just made for concerns, but also if they think a family needs help.

I think it's better that they refer when worried than just shrug and think it's probably ok.

sotiredandconfused · 21/08/2024 04:15

Ace56 · 21/08/2024 00:07

Sorry but no smoke without fire. If your family are involved with SS there’s a reason for that.

And this is exactly why I've made the complaint.

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EsmeSusanOgg · 21/08/2024 04:10

Morph22010 · 20/08/2024 23:14

How come a health visitor was visiting in the first place? My child is older now but when he was a baby we for a couple of visits from the heath visitor when he was born, we then took him to be weighed up to about six months and then never saw the hv again. Round us from what I’ve heard the times you see the hv wiith a child have got even less as they’ve cut down on the weighing

OP has explained she is in Wales. The health visiting regime is different to in England and home visit based until your child starts school.

Tiredmumtoboy · 21/08/2024 03:58

Just because a 4 year old child pretends to be an animal doesn't mean they have fucking autism.

The hell is wrong with people on MN. It's like you all want your kids to be autistic for status or something!!

EsmeSusanOgg · 21/08/2024 03:51

YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer · 20/08/2024 21:17

How old is you DD? I mean if she's 4 and pretending to be an animal that is very different to if she is 15 (I dont really think we are talking about a 15 yr old, but I guess I've seen crazier things on here)

HVs see children up to the age of 5. So child is 5 or younger. When they start school, the school nursing team take over.

Abigaillovesholidays · 21/08/2024 02:08

As there seems to be so much discussion about the HV's outfit 🤣🤣 when I went to see HV at clinic she was wearing tartan trousers (which looked suspiciously like pyjamas), a huge purple knitted cardigan (which had seen many, better days) and slippers 🤣🤣

HauntedbyMagpies · 21/08/2024 02:06

sectionscarhelp · 20/08/2024 22:40

@againtomorrow what the actual fuck is wrong with you ? Are you implying your own husband is not to be trusted with your own daughter? Jesus Christ.

Have you any idea how many DC are abused by their own fathers? (Mothers too, believe it or not)

I know from first hand experience, sadly. I too slept in the same bed as my Dad twice a week whilst my mum slept in mine.

Are you going to call me "despicable" too, for wanting to keep DC safe?

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