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sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 20:07

I recently had a HV come round. She appeared a little rigid and looked like she was attending a wedding but she seemed chatty and reflected back lots of positive things she was seeing. Today I had a SW unexpectantly visit and after she read out everything that the HV had raised, to say I was shocked is an understatement. Both my DH were there and the HV literally fabricated and misrepresented things she saw. The SW was lovely and stated she had no concerns and let me know I could make a complaint (I have).

So WTF! I'm still in shock. The HV asked me at the time whether I wanted another visit and I said no, and then SS turn up!

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sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:52

neverbeenskiing · 20/08/2024 22:51

I liaise with social services daily as part of my role. Thresholds are so high nowadays, you don't get a home visit from a social worker without there being significant concerns for a child's welfare. Nothing the OP has described so far would be deemed sufficiently serious to trigger a home visit. There is definitely more to this.

Sigh. Yet here we are. This is exactly why I have been left confused and angry.

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Gogogo12345 · 20/08/2024 22:52

againtomorrow · 20/08/2024 22:28

i agree that a 4 year old girl should not be left to sleep alone with dad, why does the OP move to a different bed, why can't dad go?

Why though? Does it work the same for a 4 year old boy sleeping with mum?

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:51

takeyourluckwhereyoufindit · 20/08/2024 22:46

If the Social Worker is requesting lateral checks then the case hasn't been NFAd.

They're literally going to cross check you and your interactions with other agencies, OP.

I'm with the others - co-sleeping and a just turned 4 year old pretending to be a dog wouldn't trigger a safeguarding visit from SS or lateral checks.

There is more unsaid than said here.

The referral on paper reads horribly. Of course she has to corroborate my story and what she saw. I consented for her to do this today. She acknowledged that oddity of the situation and that given the understandable stress caused she would expedite her report (but this is contingent on gp getting back to her). She is aiming to get it done by next week and stayed she will come around again (planned visit) so I could have sight of the form and then we go through it. I co pletely respect that she jas her job to donow BUT the referral should not have been made in the first place.

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neverbeenskiing · 20/08/2024 22:51

I liaise with social services daily as part of my role. Thresholds are so high nowadays, you don't get a home visit from a social worker without there being significant concerns for a child's welfare. Nothing the OP has described so far would be deemed sufficiently serious to trigger a home visit. There is definitely more to this.

takeyourluckwhereyoufindit · 20/08/2024 22:50

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:48

And yet here we are.

Yes, here you are, with further investigations underway.

Petitchat · 20/08/2024 22:49

quickturtle · 20/08/2024 22:05

What's the way she's dressed got to do with the dog cage/litter box?

Another one hard of understanding.
The issues are really very simple.

I think some people just want the details to start some juicy gossip.....

takeyourluckwhereyoufindit · 20/08/2024 22:49

It is a dog, right? I mean I know other posters have been derailing the thread going on and on about cats, but they aren't generally kept in cages.

So I presume you mean a dog crate? It is actually a safety issue to allow a child to enter a dog crate because it's the dog's safe space and leaves the child at risk of being attacked by the dog protecting it's territory.

Was that one of the concerns raised?

fliptopbin · 20/08/2024 22:49

I had a health visitor report me to SS because my son was "failure to thrive". Luckily , my mother in law used to be a midwife, and she was with me for the meeting, and pointed out the tongue tie that the health visitor had missed. The social worker was not impressed at all . Her theory was that because my DS was still being fed by ng tube when he came home, and was being seen by the SCBU midwife as well as the regular midwife and the health visitor, everybody assumed that somebody else had checked.

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:48

takeyourluckwhereyoufindit · 20/08/2024 22:46

If the Social Worker is requesting lateral checks then the case hasn't been NFAd.

They're literally going to cross check you and your interactions with other agencies, OP.

I'm with the others - co-sleeping and a just turned 4 year old pretending to be a dog wouldn't trigger a safeguarding visit from SS or lateral checks.

There is more unsaid than said here.

And yet here we are.

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sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:47

@WhompingWillows interesting advice, hadn't thought of this- will do

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takeyourluckwhereyoufindit · 20/08/2024 22:46

If the Social Worker is requesting lateral checks then the case hasn't been NFAd.

They're literally going to cross check you and your interactions with other agencies, OP.

I'm with the others - co-sleeping and a just turned 4 year old pretending to be a dog wouldn't trigger a safeguarding visit from SS or lateral checks.

There is more unsaid than said here.

WhompingWillows · 20/08/2024 22:46

Silviasilvertoes · 20/08/2024 22:40

And fwiw DS does indeed now have a diagnosis of autism.

Hallelujah! We’re not alone on this thread. If only I had known 13 years ago, when everyone was charmed by my DD1 pretending to be a cat 24/7, that this was a signifier of autism, then my family would probably have not been put through the mill, my DD1’s mental health would not be trashed, we would not be involved with SS and we would not have pissed about for years with seeking help. @sotiredandconfused use your HV concern and your SS visit to try to expedite an neurodivergent assessment for your DD.

Hillsmakeyoustrong · 20/08/2024 22:45

Dh has shared a bed with dd and ds on holidays and the like. I can assure you if there was even a whisper of abuse, my kids wouldn't be in the same city as him let alone the same bed. Anyway, I snore and he doesn't so the kids pick him every time. It's a sad world when a dad can't share a bed with his young kids.

Greally · 20/08/2024 22:45

And you missed the posts where you accused OP of ‘offering her child on a plate’ because the father co-sleeps.

are you drunk?

Petitchat · 20/08/2024 22:43

againtomorrow · 20/08/2024 21:58

i admit i don't normally read an entire post.. i read the OP's post and then a few comments and then i make my own.. however on this occasion, i am truely baffled by what i was reading i read it all and i am still no wiser?

for clarity someone dressed for a wedding came to your house and saw your DD behave like a cat and you had a cage for your dog and there was a kettle and some knives?

then someone else came, saw none of this, slagged off the first person and then left?

and they may or may not live in wales?

Maybe you SHOULD read more posts, you seem to be hard of understanding?

Gorgeousfeet · 20/08/2024 22:42

Mum2jenny · 20/08/2024 20:23

Never let a HV cross your threshold, everyone I’ve dealt with are totally incompetent.
Statistically there must be some good ones, but I’ve never seen them

We had one good one. The other was a disgrace. And I had severe on depression- which she never picked up on and which subsequently went undiagnosed for five years.

More info here please op. It’s a bit of a drip feed.

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:41

@Mielbee 🌸

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Nadeed · 20/08/2024 22:41

ForGreyKoala · 20/08/2024 22:40

But surely the HV is visiting a range of people during a day and not all of them will be struggling, some may well have been dressed as she was. Should she take several changes of clothes with her so she can dress appropriately for each visit? She is allowed to dress as she pleases, it's nothing to do with you.

I worked in a place where people come for food parcels, some to visit a needle exchange, others are wealthy people who have come for health reasons. What should we be wearing?

Casual clothes. Trousers, skirt, top. Not white stilettoes and a fancy dress.

hotpotlover · 20/08/2024 22:41

I really dislike health visitors, but somehow I think that there's a massive backstory here that we aren't told.

Appledoughnut · 20/08/2024 22:40

againtomorrow · 20/08/2024 22:37

well i guess it depends if you were abused by your father as a child i guess doesn't it?

be disgusted all you like.

I was abused by my father as a child but he never slept in my bed.

sectionscarhelp · 20/08/2024 22:40

@againtomorrow what the actual fuck is wrong with you ? Are you implying your own husband is not to be trusted with your own daughter? Jesus Christ.

Silviasilvertoes · 20/08/2024 22:40

Silviasilvertoes · 20/08/2024 22:35

At 4, my DS went through a period where he’d only speak in miaow, even at nursery. It went on for weeks. All the nursery said was “that must be driving you mad” (it was).

And fwiw DS does indeed now have a diagnosis of autism.

Mielbee · 20/08/2024 22:40

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 22:29

I have a neurological condition and I take meds which cause sedation.

This commentary on cosleeping with dads makes me so sad. It's totally reasonable in your situation with the meds, but even without meds why would it be an issue? If we have another baby, I expect my husband will cosleep with our daughter quite regularly so that I can cosleep with the baby. Posters that think dads will abuse their daughters in that situation, but presumably only when cosleeping and never at any other time, are not making any sense at all. Either they are abusers or not and either you trust them or you don't.

It sounds like a really upsetting situation for your family OP and unfortunately I don't think mumsnetters are helping. People are here for the juicy details and are not taking kindly to being deprived of them, but I think their reaction is totally disproportionate! Wishing you all the best with getting through it.

ForGreyKoala · 20/08/2024 22:40

sotiredandconfused · 20/08/2024 21:55

@Staunchlystarling
Just think about the optics on this.

You work in a job where you are likely going to meet people struggling.so you turn up dressed to the nines versus someone who dresses more casually/comfortably. How you dress impacts how people perceive you and therefore the willingness for them to work with you. This really isnt a hard thing to grasp.

But surely the HV is visiting a range of people during a day and not all of them will be struggling, some may well have been dressed as she was. Should she take several changes of clothes with her so she can dress appropriately for each visit? She is allowed to dress as she pleases, it's nothing to do with you.

I worked in a place where people come for food parcels, some to visit a needle exchange, others are wealthy people who have come for health reasons. What should we be wearing?

againtomorrow · 20/08/2024 22:37

WhompingWillows · 20/08/2024 22:35

I’m a totally lone single female parent but I think that is a disgusting comment to make about a father.

well i guess it depends if you were abused by your father as a child i guess doesn't it?

be disgusted all you like.