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To expect my mum to look after her only grandchild on her own for 2 hours a week?

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Welshlady89 · 20/08/2024 13:20

My mother is 75. She is relatively fit and healthy and leads an active lifestyle.

I am 35 and have one child. She will be an only child for various reasons, including health reasons (I have a heart condition and also had bad PPD).

My child is 1. She is the only child in the entire family as both my brother and my DH’s sister aren’t going to have children.

I work freelance. One morning we have outside help with my child, one morning MIL comes down to help, and one morning my mum helps.

My mum also sees my daughter everyday for an hour or so - she comes to have lunch with me in my house on most days.

Whenever she has my daughter for the morning I can guarantee she will be difficult with me when I pick her up. She is tetchy, snappy and talks about how difficult it was, how tired she is and she is almost resentful at me. She adores my daughter, and I appreciate that she is getting older, but 2 hours isn’t that long considering it’s only once a week.

Each time I go and pick my daughter up, I make a big effort to be chirpy and in a good mood. Today, despite very little sleep for 4 nights, I tried my hardest to not put a foot wrong. Yet still I was met with complaints. I suggested I had lunch alone, to give her a break from my daughter as I could see she was in a bad mood and I wanted to avoid a big argument.

It didn’t work and she became even more agitated and then sent me a barrage of 20 messages about how she wouldn’t look after my daughter again and how disrespectful I was etc etc.

I don’t know what to do. AIBU? Should I send my daughter to nursery instead for the morning my mum has her? I can’t stand the feeling of resentment much longer. When I try to talk to her, she just snaps and denies being in the wrong.

I would appreciate your advice.

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Holluschickie · 20/08/2024 14:26

CrunchNDump · 20/08/2024 14:21

2 hours a week is really not a lot. If living one's best life is more important than family then fair enough, but relationships shops don't spring up from thin air. There has to be some give and take with these things.

I have a great relationship with my mum and adore her. She has never provided me with any regular childcare, just one-off emergencies. When the DC were much older, they would occasionally stay over with her, but only when they were self-sufficient and easily managed. I want her to enjoy her old age; she worked very hard all her life.

I really hate when grandmums are forced into childcare on the pretext that otherwise they won't have good relationships with DC. They can have good relationships without providing childcare.

jolota · 20/08/2024 14:24

Welshlady89 · 20/08/2024 14:17

Both my father and my DH work full-time. My brother lives 5 hours away.

The MIL is 73! She comes down on the train and does 2-3 hours.

My mother insists on helping out, which I appreciate. I’ve told her I will happily send my daughter to nursery one morning a week. She insists she is ok to look after her.

I am not expecting or demanding help. She offers. But then is resentful.

A lot of these posts chiding me are from older people. Haven’t you learned that the world is not black and white?!

People tell you more with their actions than their words - your mum is resentful despite telling you that she wants to take care of your daughter.
Take the decision out of her hands, find alternative care for your daughter on that day and hopefully the resentment will fade away.
The fact she finds you feeding your daughter in her vicinity stressful is slightly bizarre to me but suggests that although you believe it may not be physically challenging for her to care for your daughter, perhaps there are other issues making her struggle.

HappyDane · 20/08/2024 14:24

Or yes, I was just going to say perhaps physically she can but mentally she finds the responsibility too much. Especially if she's prone to stressing.

Welshlady89 · 20/08/2024 14:24

CrunchNDump · 20/08/2024 14:21

2 hours a week is really not a lot. If living one's best life is more important than family then fair enough, but relationships shops don't spring up from thin air. There has to be some give and take with these things.

Exactly. And she maintains that family is everything. She encouraged me to move closer to them so that when I did have children, she could help. That was part of the reason we moved here.

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Dressinggowntime · 20/08/2024 14:24

Think the op is getting a hard time here. Sounds more like her mum wants to be a martyr. She wants to do it but she wants to moan about it.

CharmingGeorge · 20/08/2024 14:24

Wow there’s a lot of projecting happening on this thread.

OP it’s clearly too much for your mum, I would make alternative arrangements. It’s not worth building a load of resentment for the sake of 2 hours a week. I would also think about maybe just doing lunch a couple of times a week too rather than every single day. You could take a picnic round to her house or out to a park or something to mix it up a bit.

I don’t think accepting the offer of help 2 hours a week from your healthy, fit, still working mother is unreasonable or grabby of you at all. You don’t come across as entitled in the slightest, ignore the nasty bitter posters on here. That being said, it’s not working for you all so just knock it on the head and sort something else out. It’s not worth it.

CointreauVersial · 20/08/2024 14:24

Your mum is giving mixed messages by saying she wants to look after your DD, yet acting as if it's all too much for her. Maybe she's desperate to stop, but feels guilty for letting you down, or is worried that it makes her appear less of a caring granny etc.

Suggest you both put your cards on the table, have a frank conversation, and establish for once and for all if the arrangement should stop. Tell her you notice how stressed she is, and that the care isn't "expected". As others have said, the expectation is not fair. It does sound like it's too much for her.

Shinyandnew1 · 20/08/2024 14:23

Should I send my daughter to nursery instead for the morning my mum has her?

Yes, for whatever reason, this arrangement isn’t working out.

BustingBaoBun · 20/08/2024 14:23

I imagine your Mum is finding the responsibility too much. That's what I'm getting from your posts OP.

HappyDane · 20/08/2024 14:23

If you get along well that's brilliant.

Perhaps she's actually finding it really hard to accept that she's not able to be so hands-on anymore.

I'm sure there's a better way of organising things so resentment doesn't build.

Welshlady89 · 20/08/2024 14:21

Yes, we are very close. She was and is a fantastic mother. She was hands-on and present, although I know she struggled at times as she loves her work too and found looking after a young baby quite monotonous.

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CrunchNDump · 20/08/2024 14:21

Holluschickie · 20/08/2024 14:19

I am not older, but I don't want to look after any future GC regularly. Emergencies, yes. And there is no way I would ever come down on a train to do it like your MIL. I hope to be doing other more interesting things, maybe even a part time job in the theatre!

2 hours a week is really not a lot. If living one's best life is more important than family then fair enough, but relationships shops don't spring up from thin air. There has to be some give and take with these things.

BustingBaoBun · 20/08/2024 14:21

A lot of these posts chiding me are from older people. Haven’t you learned that the world is not black and white?!

Yes thanks Hmm

Do you get on well with your Mum... this older person?

WonderingWanda · 20/08/2024 14:20

My kids are older but my db's kids are that age. My dm is 65 and fit and active and even she finds the toddlers exhausting to look after even for a couple of hours. Your dm is 75, it is clearly too much so just pay for some childcare.

stronglatte · 20/08/2024 14:20

She might not be communicating it in a way that you want but she doesn't want to do this - let it go, find a nursery and hold on to the lunches with your Mum . It's exhausting and a worry to look after little ones

HappyDane · 20/08/2024 14:19

She can insist all she likes that she wants to do it. She probably does. But if it isn't working for you and her it's best to tell her that you've made other arrangements and then plan relaxed times within which to see her instead. You don't have to take her up on the offer.

Do you generally get along well?

crumblingschools · 20/08/2024 14:19

@Welshlady89 was she a hands on mum when you were little?

Holluschickie · 20/08/2024 14:19

I am not older, but I don't want to look after any future GC regularly. Emergencies, yes. And there is no way I would ever come down on a train to do it like your MIL. I hope to be doing other more interesting things, maybe even a part time job in the theatre!

Ponderingwindow · 20/08/2024 14:19

She is telling you it is too much and you are making excuses that it should be something she can manage. She can have a relationship with her grandchild without providing child care.

Why is there no expectation for the grandfather’s to cover a shift so the child doesn’t need to go to nursery at all? The casual sexism that almost always shows up in these situations is very frustrating.

Pay for care and ask grandparents if they are willing to be emergency backups if available.

crumblingschools · 20/08/2024 14:18

@Welshlady89 what does she say when you discuss the messages she is sending you

skyeisthelimit · 20/08/2024 14:18

she has told you that she finds it difficult, so it is time to make alternative arrangements. she can't complain about that seeing as she has told you that she is tired and can't cope with it

commonground · 20/08/2024 14:18

There are 75 years olds....and there are 75 year olds....

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mugglewump · 20/08/2024 14:18

Is your mum lonely? You mention having lunch together most days, so it seems like she is on her own. If she is feeling lonely and possibly depressed, she is likely to see things negatively. Is this the cause of her moaning? Or is she actually finding sole charge too much? As we all know, looking after a non verbal child can be very lonely. I would ask if the 'outside help' could do an extra morning, but before confirming it, have an honest talk with your mum to clear the air and only change the status quo if she would like to stop her morning with the grandchild.

My mother died before I had my children, but my sister said my mum used to moan about looking after the grandchildren and I think part of that was finding it lonely.

itsgettingweird · 20/08/2024 14:17

BustingBaoBun · 20/08/2024 14:08

75 is really old

Oh shit 😂

I was thinking that 😂😂

My dads 74 had cancer and goes the gym everyday - sometimes twice a day!

It's not old.

But it certainly not the ideal age to have a 1yo to look after!

Ivyy · 20/08/2024 14:17

GoldenLegend · 20/08/2024 14:03

I think your mother has been looking for an excuse to end the arrangement. If I’m honest, I wouldn’t be providing lunch several times a week for someone who spoke to me like that.

This.

Or maybe op's dm thought saying she'd have lunch by herself was a punishment or something, even though op quite sensibly felt dm wouldn't want to join her as she'd had enough by that point.