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To expect my mum to look after her only grandchild on her own for 2 hours a week?

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Welshlady89 · 20/08/2024 13:20

My mother is 75. She is relatively fit and healthy and leads an active lifestyle.

I am 35 and have one child. She will be an only child for various reasons, including health reasons (I have a heart condition and also had bad PPD).

My child is 1. She is the only child in the entire family as both my brother and my DH’s sister aren’t going to have children.

I work freelance. One morning we have outside help with my child, one morning MIL comes down to help, and one morning my mum helps.

My mum also sees my daughter everyday for an hour or so - she comes to have lunch with me in my house on most days.

Whenever she has my daughter for the morning I can guarantee she will be difficult with me when I pick her up. She is tetchy, snappy and talks about how difficult it was, how tired she is and she is almost resentful at me. She adores my daughter, and I appreciate that she is getting older, but 2 hours isn’t that long considering it’s only once a week.

Each time I go and pick my daughter up, I make a big effort to be chirpy and in a good mood. Today, despite very little sleep for 4 nights, I tried my hardest to not put a foot wrong. Yet still I was met with complaints. I suggested I had lunch alone, to give her a break from my daughter as I could see she was in a bad mood and I wanted to avoid a big argument.

It didn’t work and she became even more agitated and then sent me a barrage of 20 messages about how she wouldn’t look after my daughter again and how disrespectful I was etc etc.

I don’t know what to do. AIBU? Should I send my daughter to nursery instead for the morning my mum has her? I can’t stand the feeling of resentment much longer. When I try to talk to her, she just snaps and denies being in the wrong.

I would appreciate your advice.

OP posts:
HappyDane · 20/08/2024 15:15

Runnerinthenight · 20/08/2024 15:10

And I wish posters would realise that increasing age does come with limitations, whether you like it or not!

It doesn't matter if it is two hours, two days or two minutes. THIS PARTICULAR LADY is not coping.

Yes, quite.

Some women are very fit and well in their mid-70s. Many aren't.

No one is suggesting that older women are useless.

Talking about reality - that most women in their mid-70s are more tired and less physically able than they were 10 or even 5 years before, does not take away from the value that older women have.

selldonaterecycle · 20/08/2024 15:15

I don't think YABU at all especially as your Mum says she is keen to help out and have your DD. But it seems the reality is just too much for her. She may be keen in mind and body but emotionally looking after a 1 year old is clearly a step too far for her. Perhaps having her round for lunch and watching your DD while you do a few things at home may be a compromise - so she won't be sole charge but will still feel she is helping you and it will enable you to get a few jobs done at home.

farfromideal · 20/08/2024 15:15

I don't think you are entitled but your mother is clearly not coping. I'm only 54 and I would not like having to spend two hours a week entertaining a child. I'd rather spend those hours reading, walking or doing something I like. So none of you is unreasonable but this arrangement is not working

jackstini · 20/08/2024 15:14

You should have said on your OP that your Mum originally offered - don't drop that in later!

Ok, YANBU to accept the original offer of help, now you have described how that came about

YABU to 'expect' it - which is what your OP said

Sounds like she wanted to do it, but now it is happening, it's just too difficult, for whatever reason

As she has stated in messages that she will not look after her again, it's time to find a nursery or CM for 1 morning a week

CrunchNDump · 20/08/2024 15:14

No, you're not and that's fine. You wouldn't have posted the first sentence if you were genuine.

I know this isn't addressed to me: but with respect, you took it upon yourself to make things personal to you, by bringing up your own deceased mum.

I mean, some people lose their mum when she's 50, but most active 50 year olds can cope with two hours. The two are not linked at all.

Terrribletwos · 20/08/2024 15:13

She has offered but then is resentful. It is so bewildering. I had a similar experience and I think, in my case, it was some kinda power play and so annoying that in the end I l refused as it was just too much aggro. You should do the same.

Werweisswohin · 20/08/2024 15:13

What you think she 'should' be able to do is irrelevant, she's clearly finding it a challenge so you and OH need to find a solution for your child.

CoffeeCantata · 20/08/2024 15:11

I'm sorry, but....she's 75! I know a few people of this age and although individuals vary, people's energy levels are just not enough to deal with a small child. I'm not quite that old, but I remember the utter exhaustion of having small children - it's really not on to expect someone of that age to do it. Just the bending and lifting would do me in.

crumblingschools · 20/08/2024 15:11

Do you go out with DM and DD when you are not working? Maybe you can change what you do, so put DD into nursery but then have fun time all together eg park, soft play (ugh!) So Dm doesn't have the responsibility which she might be finding harder than she thought she would

Runnerinthenight · 20/08/2024 15:11

GreenGrowtheRushesOoooh · 20/08/2024 15:07

Is this some kind of competition?

I'm sorry for your loss.

No, you're not and that's fine. You wouldn't have posted the first sentence if you were genuine.

I was merely making the point that one size does not fit all.

CharlotteLucas3 · 20/08/2024 15:10

Bombarding you with twenty texts I suggests to me that your mother is a bit unhinged. Either there has been a personality change or I suspect that she wasn’t as good a mother as you think she was. At your age, I may have said the same about my own mother but in hindsight I can see that I was wrong.

Two hours is a very short amount of time and as you say, she still works and is fit. She finds the time and energy to visit you every day for lunch. It seems like she wants everything on her terms. Do you really want to see her every day? It would send most people bonkers. I don’t see how that can continue after all this because you’ll be resentful.

Runnerinthenight · 20/08/2024 15:10

GreenGrowtheRushesOoooh · 20/08/2024 15:06

She' s hardly minding her when it's only for 2 hours.
At a year old she'll just be walking and there is a lot you can do with a 1 year old- reading and playing or going for a little walk outside.

2 hours is nothing.

And I wish posters would stop suggesting older women are useless and feeble.

And I wish posters would realise that increasing age does come with limitations, whether you like it or not!

It doesn't matter if it is two hours, two days or two minutes. THIS PARTICULAR LADY is not coping.

GreyCarpet · 20/08/2024 15:08

Sunsetbeachhouse · 20/08/2024 15:04

Looking after your grandkid for 2 hours once a week is not unreasonable.. you shut the door and turn your head and 5 mins has already passed.. and the woman goes to their house every day for lunch. Your post is silly.

Your post is silly because you are entirely unable to imagine that not everyone has the exact same experience.

The OP's mum isn't obliged to look after her grandchild at all.

HidingHereForTomorrow · 20/08/2024 15:08

Nanny0gg · 20/08/2024 15:01

I had no help on account of both grandmothers being dead. I've done loads.

Anecdote does not equal data

I am sorry for your loss, and that your children will not know the delight of being with them (if that would be the case). My post was more about grandparents that had help when their children were young and now fob off the younger generation.

GreenGrowtheRushesOoooh · 20/08/2024 15:07

Runnerinthenight · 20/08/2024 15:06

When my mum would have turned 80, she'd been dead for 17 years.

Is this some kind of competition?

I'm sorry for your loss.

GreenGrowtheRushesOoooh · 20/08/2024 15:07

DandyClocks · 20/08/2024 15:05

Yes, it’s easy to spout all sorts of nonsense when you don’t actually do it yourself. 😂😂

Oh don't be so daft.

I DO do it but not every week.

Runnerinthenight · 20/08/2024 15:06

GreenGrowtheRushesOoooh · 20/08/2024 15:02

It's for 2 hours- not even a half day!

And women don't have to slow down after 50. Only if they allow themselves to.
My own mum was doing 10 mile walks at 80 with her walking group.

Edited

When my mum would have turned 80, she'd been dead for 17 years.

GreenGrowtheRushesOoooh · 20/08/2024 15:06

Runnerinthenight · 20/08/2024 15:04

Would it not occur to you that older people might be coming at this with personal experience?! Don't be so dismissive.

Your mother is coming across loud and clear that it's too much.

You seem to have a good relationship with her - can't you talk it through frankly? Tell her that she can't mind her and moan. She either minds her with a positive outlook or not at all. I'd be making other arrangements quite honestly! I think it's a tall order to have women in their 70s minding a toddler. The age of posters is irrelevant!

She' s hardly minding her when it's only for 2 hours.
At a year old she'll just be walking and there is a lot you can do with a 1 year old- reading and playing or going for a little walk outside.

2 hours is nothing.

And I wish posters would stop suggesting older women are useless and feeble.

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 20/08/2024 15:06

Well, if she wants to do it perhaps there is a third option, which is to accept the help, let her vent a bit and then say that you know it can be very full on and you appreciate her spending that time with your daughter.

DandyClocks · 20/08/2024 15:05

GreenGrowtheRushesOoooh · 20/08/2024 15:01

I find your Mum's behaviour very odd.

I am 70 and have a grandchild aged 9 months.
I'd love to look after her but my daughter lives too far away.
It's a source of unhappiness for me especially as the MIL is very hands-on and I can't be.

Has something happened that's dented your Mum's confidence or similar?

Is she going through a tough time for any other reason (maybe something you are not aware of?)

Two hours in a day, once a week, is nothing.

I have friends in their late 60s who look after very young grandchildren (aged 2) for a whole day or even a weekend when their parents go away.

Can you ask her why things have changed?

Yes, it’s easy to spout all sorts of nonsense when you don’t actually do it yourself. 😂😂

GreyCarpet · 20/08/2024 15:04

GreenGrowtheRushesOoooh · 20/08/2024 15:02

It's for 2 hours- not even a half day!

And women don't have to slow down after 50. Only if they allow themselves to.
My own mum was doing 10 mile walks at 80 with her walking group.

Edited

That's still not the same as all the bending, stretching and lifting or mental load that accompanies looking after a 1 year old whose safety and wellbeing depends entirely on you.

If the OP's mum doesn't feel capable of that or even just doesn't want to do it, that is fine.

TheCluelessMum · 20/08/2024 15:04

I don’t think ur unreasonable, however Mumsnetters will think you are.

however from personal experience, just put ur child in nursery. It’ll save u the agro x

Sunsetbeachhouse · 20/08/2024 15:04

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Looking after your grandkid for 2 hours once a week is not unreasonable.. you shut the door and turn your head and 5 mins has already passed.. and the woman goes to their house every day for lunch. Your post is silly.

Runnerinthenight · 20/08/2024 15:04

Welshlady89 · 20/08/2024 14:17

Both my father and my DH work full-time. My brother lives 5 hours away.

The MIL is 73! She comes down on the train and does 2-3 hours.

My mother insists on helping out, which I appreciate. I’ve told her I will happily send my daughter to nursery one morning a week. She insists she is ok to look after her.

I am not expecting or demanding help. She offers. But then is resentful.

A lot of these posts chiding me are from older people. Haven’t you learned that the world is not black and white?!

Would it not occur to you that older people might be coming at this with personal experience?! Don't be so dismissive.

Your mother is coming across loud and clear that it's too much.

You seem to have a good relationship with her - can't you talk it through frankly? Tell her that she can't mind her and moan. She either minds her with a positive outlook or not at all. I'd be making other arrangements quite honestly! I think it's a tall order to have women in their 70s minding a toddler. The age of posters is irrelevant!

Ivyy · 20/08/2024 15:04

Op I'd take her at her word and arrange alternative childcare, sounds rather dramatic to bombard you with messages and say she won't look after dgd again, that's rather ott if you ask me and emotionally immature. Does she behave like this over other things?

Why do you invite her over for lunch every day? Is it enjoyable for you both or an obligation? She wants to be involved but not on her own with dd?

It's sad if she finds it stressful and gets so tetchy with you, when I'm sure you had hoped she'd enjoy her time with your dd. She may find it easier as dd gets older and just struggles with this particular age. My dm was similar, we had some dramas. I never expected any help, or asked for it, she'd play the martyr and insist occasionally though. Then say it was too much for her afterwards, act resentful that she'd had to do it even though she was the one who insisted! So I found it less stressful and emotionally draining to just book extra time for dd at the childminder when I needed to.

Mil occasionally offered to drive 90 mins each way to babysit for birthdays, anniversary etc, we did it a few times but it was too much for her with the drive as well, the difference was she really wanted to help and loved her time with dd. My dm just didn't enjoy it and found that age too stressful, which was absolutely fine and understandable, a bit sad yes, but I'd rather dd was in a calm environment, and not have to deal with drama from dm Grin

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