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To expect more from my age gap partner

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Kiwibuffy · 20/08/2024 13:17

Hi, I'd love some advice on this situation as I'm not sure if I'm expecting too much. Sorry for length!

Background:
I've (32f) lived with my bf (52m) and his mum (87F) almost 3 years now. We have been together for 5 years.

His mum, sadly, has mid stage dementia. We are waiting on social service help and his sister has recently started helping more since I briefly moved out at the beginning of the year.

I moved in party due to rent increase and partly due to mental health issues.

BF and I met at work, he still works there, I've since moved jobs. I asked him out when I left that role. He told no one in that job that he had a girlfriend, until i forced him to tell his best friend at work last year. He still doesn't mention me at work "I will say I went for a walk with a woman" and has said "ok iill name you and they'll all talk about you" when I've brought this up.

AIBU to expect him admit to having a 5 year relationship, almost 3 of those years having a live in GF who helps care for his ill, elderly mother?

Helping his mum has improved my mood, he does a lot for me 'acts of service' wise. I am not close to my family at all due to violence. I do have 3 very close friends for support.

When I first moved in I was in the middle of a break from reality. This continued and Id often 'hear' him talking to other people. I recorded him a few times.

One Saturday I was due to meet friends but it was changed to a Sunday, I didn't let him know this. We had the day free from caring for his mum but he spent the day in bed tired. I recorded him that day and have a recording of him whispering "one more day x5..." "you've no idea" "remember when?...and we did anyway...well yeah, youve been warned" "be very good to yourself the whole day" and other things like that.

A week later his sister came over and said "you know when you think something is a sat but it's a sun" and looked at him.

I confronted him about this a week later and he said he didn't make a phone call. After hearing the recording he said he didn't remember having a phone call and wouldn't know why he would be whispering but he wouldn't be calling anyone. He said he forgets and thats all there is to be said on it.

I also walked in on him on a call saying "I love you more" then heard "did (my name just walk in)" from other side and he said yes and they continued a normal conversation about their mum. (They are both adopted from different families)

I confronted him about this and he had a shower, left his phone out whilst in the shower and came back out to show me the call log was from his sister and obviously I misheard something.

These are things I think I am willing to draw a line under.

I have asked for more physical affection and intimacy since the beginning of the relationship. We've always sat on septetate chairs or me on a bean bag and have had very little physical interaction. I've asked multiple times for more compliments as he will only say I look "well" or "good".

He states he says that because he's 52 and so wouldn't be saying anything else. Is this true of other 52 year old men?

He was alone for 15 years before me due to an abusive relationship but I know he showed and stated more affection in past relationships than he does with this one.

My body shape is not his preference but he will not admit this despite how open sexually I am. He's not mine either but I go more on vibes with people and would never make comments to make anyone feel less than of i did have particular preferences (unless as a joke but backed up with compliments)

We don't spend much time doing different activities together. He once told me he doesn't like to 'plan in advance' when asking about what to do on our next MiL free day. We used to forage a lot but recently when given the opportunity to go to a foraging event he said "I'd rather do the garden, I don't like walking about looking at things to eat". I've asked for more physical affection and again "I don't like".

Ive spent so much of this relationship fitting into his lifestyle and he hasnt tried to do the same for me.

I wrote him a letter recently and in it discussed how we hadn't had sex in over a year. He stated "sex is the furthest thing from my mind right now". When he was next on his laptip his previous tabs showed multiple porn sites. He apologised for lying and said it should be left at that because he didn't get "excited" and because I didn't pay a month's rent (v little amount of rent here, i was planning on moving out after the recording) awhile ago and he took my apology and didn't mention it again. I paid the money back but realised he was hurt due to previous relationships messing him up moneywise

He did recently suggest buying a sofa so we could hold hands sitting together sometimes at night (instead of across from each other) again this is something he's said no to before but feels/has basically lost me so is now trying.

I am currently off work ill and will be going half pay soon. I really need to work on my mental health and on paper this seems like a good environment but I feel I might have been deteriorating a little whilst I've been here (not all due to our relationship).

Rent is crazy at the moment, and I have got myself in debt/defaults due to stupid things over the past 2 years, so will find it hard to rent/buy for awhile.

Am I being unreasonable to expect more from him? I am being unreasonable to expect a 52 year old man to call me pretty at the very least?

I understand he is going through a lot. I do help a lot and try to help him. I do understand than most relationships are about companionship and we do get along well.

Any comments, questions, suggestions, advice etc welcome!

Tia!

OP posts:
cupcaske123 · 20/08/2024 16:18

To answer one of your questions. No, it's not his age. There's no reason why a 52 year old can't show physical affection or intimacy.

You're too young for a sexless relationship and to be a carer for someone's mum.

Ihadenough22 · 20/08/2024 16:10

I would finish with him. He is treating you badly. He won't acknowledge that your a couple. He won't have sex with you. He is 52 and his mother has cognitive decline. They are waiting for a diagnosis. He wants you there to enable his mother to stay at home. If she goes into a nursing home and owns her house it will have to be sold to pay for her care in time.

If his mother has altizmers ect it will just get worse in time. One of my friends cared for their mother for a few years with this and she then had to go into a home. I would describe it as minding a adult sized toddler. She wake up at 4 or 5 each morning and want to go X or y.
Their were so many stories that my friend told me but it got to a stage that she was physically and mentally exhausted dealing with her mother. She needed to be in a care home.

I would start to look for a house share and see what help you can get if your working PT via universal credit. I know that some men get involved with woman years younger than them because women of their own age won't accept him treating her badly, his drinking, lack of job or money or can spot the red flags early on.
I would also do the freedom program so going forward you can get into a better relationship.
Your young and you deserve far better than him.

Ihadenough22 · 20/08/2024 16:10

I would finish with him. He is treating you badly. He won't acknowledge that your a couple. He won't have sex with you. He is 52 and his mother has cognitive decline. They are waiting for a diagnosis. He wants you there to enable his mother to stay at home. If she goes into a nursing home and owns her house it will have to be sold to pay for her care in time.

If his mother has altizmers ect it will just get worse in time. One of my friends cared for their mother for a few years with this and she then had to go into a home. I would describe it as minding a adult sized toddler. She wake up at 4 or 5 each morning and want to go X or y.
Their were so many stories that my friend told me but it got to a stage that she was physically and mentally exhausted dealing with her mother. She needed to be in a care home.

I would start to look for a house share and see what help you can get if your working PT via universal credit. I know that some men get involved with woman years younger than them because women of their own age won't accept him treating her badly, his drinking, lack of job or money or can spot the red flags early on.
I would also do the freedom program so going forward you can get into a better relationship.
Your young and you deserve far better than him.

FoxtrotOscarFoxtrotOscar · 20/08/2024 16:00

He gets: an unpaid carer for his mother
You get: cheap accommodation

This is what it boils down to in my opinion.

Remember this: you are there because you want to be there.

Terrribletwos · 20/08/2024 15:59

Kiwi, well it's great that you got out of the dark place. And now, it seems, that you are starting to question your future. Give it time and thought, but not too much, and maybe you will realise where you prefer to be, both physically and mentally.

Personally, I don't think he's the right guy for you but hopefully you have the mental strength to work things out.

Do you have somewhere you could go if you split?

GingerPirate · 20/08/2024 15:53

Sorry, I don't understand why you live like this at only 32 yo.
I'm 45 and wouldn't have it.

Kiwibuffy · 20/08/2024 15:51

Yes, by the time I went to be checked by CMHT I was in a better place, so they said I must have been able to somehow get out of that dark place. Which I had been able to! Due to work stress and other things being brought up again - I feel like I'm just chucking everything I'm unhappy with out of the pram even though I'm not sure that's the best thing for me.

I'm seeing my GP and a therapist at the moment.

I do realise that he's not going to change at this point and that "being" with him isn't going to make me happy really. No matter how much I love his mum and enjoy his company at times.

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user1471538283 · 20/08/2024 15:50

You are too young to be doing this. You are being set up to caring for his mother and him.

I know it's very hard for you but this is really upsetting. Could you share a flat with your friends?

QuestionableMouse · 20/08/2024 15:47

You deserve so much better than this man.

loropianalover · 20/08/2024 15:46

StormingNorman · 20/08/2024 15:37

Were you implying he has romantic feelings for his adopted sister?

I’m confused about that too? And this ‘break from reality’, OP what help did you get for this? It sounds like you were seriously mentally ill, does your GP know about your issues?

I agree with PP I’m not sure if you actually are in a relationship? It sounds like you are a free carer for his mum and he wants rent from you.

Kiwibuffy · 20/08/2024 15:44

Just stating what I heard and what was shown to me on his phone (the call had been to his sister) regarding walking in on a phone call, overhearing what I did and the quick shift in mood when "did (my name) just come in".

OP posts:
StormingNorman · 20/08/2024 15:37

Were you implying he has romantic feelings for his adopted sister?

isthismylifenow · 20/08/2024 15:35

I wouldn't say his age is a factor, you can show affection to someone at 22 or 52.

Read your post back again. Pretend you are reading it for the first time. Also, sometimes writing things down makes things seem a little clearer. I hope you are able to see this. This is not a normal loving sounding relationship. You are worth more than this @Kiwibuffy

Terrribletwos · 20/08/2024 15:31

From reading, I think you're just friends really maybe less as he doesn't even acknowledge you to others. Could you both discuss and perhaps commit to being just friends and seeking other relationships as it seems, atm, you are both stuck?

TookTheBook · 20/08/2024 15:20

Why are you wasting your life with this man?

Move out and move on. You have so many happy years ahead of you.

Bogasphodel · 20/08/2024 15:00

Hi, I think you’re avoiding “hearing” what everyone here is saying. That whole situation doesn’t sound like a relationship and you should split up. 52 is not that old and is no excuse for his behaviour.

Kiwibuffy · 20/08/2024 14:54

I don't think live in caring would be for me, I think I only enjoy caring for this lady due to the situation. Its something to look into though. Thank you!

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Titsonboard · 20/08/2024 14:52

Apart from a roof over your head what is there left in this relationship for you, the problem is not the age gap. Would looking for another live.in caring position ( if you find enjoyment in that) be a possible way out of this mucked up dynamic? I’m not an expert but I wonder if being away from this situation would help your mental health?

KreedKafer · 20/08/2024 14:50

We both love each other and get along really well as people. I love his mum and like the comforting family feel of living here.

Again, that doesn't feel like a very healthy reason to be in a relationship with someone. You're trying to create a feeling of comfort and security and family that you didn't have when you were a child. But you are not a child. This man is supposed to be your partner, not your father.

KreedKafer · 20/08/2024 14:46

Everything about this whole relationship is weird and dysfunctional, on both sides.

You moved in with him 'due to rent increase and mental health issues' and you were 'having a break from reality' and you record him making phone calls to his sister and talking to himself. That isn't remotely normal or OK. If you were out of touch with reality when you moved in, you must have been seriously mentally ill. And you've apparently got yourself into loads of debt now?

He seems to feel genuinely uncomfortable with the idea that you're in a relationship, to the point where he won't tell people and doesn't want sex with you. But you are helping him care for his elderly mother and he doesn't know how to deal with you (or with your mental illness) so he's continuing to have you living there.

Neither of you actually seem to love each other in any normal manner, and frankly the entire dynamic is just disturbing. A lot of what you've written in your OP doesn't even seem to make any sense.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 20/08/2024 14:42

LittleBirdd · 20/08/2024 13:30

This whole relationship sounds completely fucked up.

^^ This

Your relationship sounds like the start of a horror movie.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 20/08/2024 14:38

He's 52.
What you've got with him is all you'll ever have with him.

I agree with pp that this whole thing is fucked up.

I suspect you are little more than a live in carer and you simply don't realise it.

Carebearsonmybed · 20/08/2024 14:37

This isnt a relationship he's using you for free care.

Why are you even there?

Move out and move on with your life!

Lougle · 20/08/2024 14:35

My worry is that when you finally realise that you are wasting your time in this relationship, you will have wasted your best years. There is very little that is positive that I can see.

HighBuddha · 20/08/2024 14:35

Besides everything else, at a minimum I wouldn’t be with someone who won’t acknowledge me as their partner to others. That’s really horrible.

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