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Golf holiday 6 weeks after new baby arrives

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Kathleen995 · 20/08/2024 10:05

Hi all,

Some background - I've been with my partner for 10 years and he is very, very close to his friends. We have a 2 year old and I'm 8 months pregnant, due our second in 5 weeks. Our own relationship has largely fallen to the sidelines recently due to both being overwhelmed with work, my pregnancy, tiredness, money issues etc and we rarely go on date nights or really do anything at all romantic. My partner is a great coparent but it doesn't really feel like we're in a romantic relationship right now.

However, I feel that he makes sure to prioritise spending time with his friends as much as possible (side note, I don't really have that many local friends so I don't socialise anywhere near as often as him). This can be dinner/drinks ever couple of weeks, golf at the weekend and just generally spending 'quality' time with them which I feel we don't have. None of his close friendship group have any kids.

Before I became pregnant, he had booked a boys golf holiday abroad for a week in November. Our baby will be 6 weeks old when he goes. I have expressed my feelings on this, saying I think it's unreasonable for him to have not cancelled the holiday given our own relationship isn't in a great place, and I'll still be finding my feet with a two year old and a newborn. My mental health hasn't been great this pregnancy and I'm very anxious about how I'm going to cope with two kids. He argues that he needs to do things like this for his mental health, that it's really important for him to go, etc etc.

Am I being unreasonable to think that it's ridiculous he's actually going on a golf holiday for a week with a two year old and newborn at home, knowing that I'm anxious about what's to come and we have had conversations about how crap our own relationship is right now? Obviously I want him to do things that make him happy, but the timing is pretty awful and I can't help but feel like this kind of thing is a big reason for my own dissatisfaction in the relationship - that I never feel prioritised to the same extent as his friends?

OP posts:
SallyPatch · 24/08/2024 18:04

I have to be honest and say I think he is being very inconsiderate of you in all of this.
He is only thinking of his own needs, his own mental health - what about yours?!
How would he react if the shoe was on the other foot, and it was you going away for a week and he was left with a baby and a toddler?
Of course it's good to have some time to be yourself with friends but I don't see him facilitating the same for you. And he's not considerate of your birthday etc either?
He sounds quite self centred, not necessarily in a malicious way, but he just isn't considering you at all, I'm sorry.
I understand the trip was booked before you fell pregnant, but there should be more consideration. Ensuring you're happy for him to go, shortening the trip as a compromise, getting family to help with the 2 year old etc.
I'd be interested to know what he said if you told him you were going away for a week a couple of weeks later, he'd likely be gobsmacked and wonder how he would cope!

Goldbar · 24/08/2024 17:58

Do whatever you're comfortable with. By 6 weeks in, you'll be exhausted from the sleepless nights. How kind of your DP to offer to look after your 2yo and baby while you have a break and indulge in some fun activities with your friends.

If I were you, I'd give him a big hug and tell him how thoughtful he is to suggest that you'll be needing a well-deserved holiday by this point.

Maybe he can get his mum to come and stay with him to help?

GingerPirate · 24/08/2024 17:56

LonelySingleNameChangeBecauseItsEmbarrassing · 20/08/2024 10:27

Do either one of you live in the real world?

Yes, exactly.
I was thinking these posters are blokes, that would make sense.

travelallthetime · 20/08/2024 17:13

Im generally laid back about my husband going out/away but 6 weeks after i had given birth and had a toddler at home? Not a fucking chance.
All this bollocks about 'he didnt know when he booked', ok, but he knew 10 months before he was going on holiday, likely would have only paid a deposit and could have cancelled then.
What if you are 2 weeks late and need a c-section? Thats going to be amazing for you, him going away 4 weeks later.
He sounds like a dick. A week away by himself at any point before the kids are about 5 is fucking selfish, 3-4 nights, fine, but a week is too long. And yes, I know single mums do it all the time, bravo, but she isnt

Aussieland · 20/08/2024 17:08

ChunkyPanda · 20/08/2024 10:09

Invite your Mum to stay, and reap the benefit of a relaxed partner when he comes home, who’ll be grateful for your kindness, and book yourself some time to do something you want to do ? Whether that’s something with your friends, or you and your partner, or as a family of 4?

and while he’s away it’s okay to let things slide at home.

Are you on glue?

AyrshireTryer · 20/08/2024 17:06

Brokeback Mountain - the golfing version

Thecatatnight · 20/08/2024 17:03

LonelySingleNameChangeBecauseItsEmbarrassing · 20/08/2024 10:27

Do either one of you live in the real world?

I know! I can imagine these comments in a book from the 1950’s about how to please your husband!

PassingStranger · 20/08/2024 16:55

Crikeyalmighty · 20/08/2024 11:35

I ended up divorced after 9 years OP due to a guy like this who expected to go to football every weekend, 2 or 3 evenings a week at pub with mates etc , basically expected to carry on with life exactly as before - plenty of friends and hobby's whilst actually got into a frump if I had the odd evening out every few months and seemed to think it was 'a favour' -

As it was booked before you were pregnant not much you can do unless it's not paid for or he's prepared to just forgo it- I would let it go- however I would look at the other aspects and set boundaries of what you think is fair including time for yourself -

ive put this up already but they dont change. Too set in their ways. Happened to a friend. They had 2 small kids and he still expected to golf etc at the weekends and go out drinking.

He was older and set in his ways. His friends children were all grown up. He didnt change. They divorced.
They have found other partners now. Children have grown up.

ineedtogwtoutbeforeitatoohot · 20/08/2024 13:36

My reply to him would be ok when is my holiday ? You book a break away and he will see you are not being unreasonable

ActualChips · 20/08/2024 13:00

Dreamcatchergirl · 20/08/2024 12:45

Your post screams DH who doesn’t respect his wife. He is married to golf and his mates, not you.

He needs to do these things for his “mental health”… he’s happy for you to get pregnant with his kids and look after them solo whilst he runs off with his child free friends.

Not being funny OP but you’re not really selling him as a catch. He makes no effort in your relationship but prioritises everyone else but you and the kids.

You do realise you don’t need lots of friends to go out either? What is stopping you going out once a week to the cinema or dinner on your own, or to go see family or have your nails done etc.

Sounds like he was like this with the first kid so doubt it’ll change for the second.

OP hasn't mentioned a husband. I hope she owns her own property and isn't dependent on this crap, disinterested boyfriend.
I expect what's stopping her from day trips is the lack of money and this man being a failure of a parent. He doesn't sound like a man striving to excel at parenting.

tuvamoodyson · 20/08/2024 12:58

MumApril1990 · 20/08/2024 10:55

@ChunkyPanda some people don’t have a Mum, or their Mum is not supportive, or she is unwell. Why would you assume that she has a healthy available Mum when OP said nothing about it?

…or a working mum!!

Duckingella · 20/08/2024 12:52

Dreamcatchergirl · 20/08/2024 12:49

I’d be interested to know what he would say if you told him you’ve booked a 4 day holiday the week after he returns. He’d probably give you a million excuses as to why he can’t look after a newborn and toddler on his own. Oh the hypocrisy

I'm betting OP wouldn't ever be able to take a weeks holiday alone whilst he parents his own children.

Dreamcatchergirl · 20/08/2024 12:49

I’d be interested to know what he would say if you told him you’ve booked a 4 day holiday the week after he returns. He’d probably give you a million excuses as to why he can’t look after a newborn and toddler on his own. Oh the hypocrisy

Dreamcatchergirl · 20/08/2024 12:45

Your post screams DH who doesn’t respect his wife. He is married to golf and his mates, not you.

He needs to do these things for his “mental health”… he’s happy for you to get pregnant with his kids and look after them solo whilst he runs off with his child free friends.

Not being funny OP but you’re not really selling him as a catch. He makes no effort in your relationship but prioritises everyone else but you and the kids.

You do realise you don’t need lots of friends to go out either? What is stopping you going out once a week to the cinema or dinner on your own, or to go see family or have your nails done etc.

Sounds like he was like this with the first kid so doubt it’ll change for the second.

foodforclouds · 20/08/2024 12:39

Summertimer · 20/08/2024 10:34

Time alone with baby can really good at that point. It’s true that if it was a business/work trip you probably would feel less bothered but it might be good for the relationship for him to have this time

What time alone?? They have a toddler!

foodforclouds · 20/08/2024 12:37

LonelySingleNameChangeBecauseItsEmbarrassing · 20/08/2024 10:27

Do either one of you live in the real world?

Exactly

foodforclouds · 20/08/2024 12:32

Cue a million MN cool wives telling you you’re BU and that the man needs his hobbies/socialising for his mental health/he may have a mental breakdown if he doesn’t golf and it’s your fault you don’t have any friends.

then if you’re the one who needs a break or have MH difficulties, he gets to dump everything on you because it’s oh so difficult being a ‘carer’ (WTF) and it’s your fault that you don’t have friends, or maybe your parents are dead and can’t help and that’s your fault too, so let the poor man socialise in his teenage stupid lads holiday.

if you need help, you need help. Your relationship and his family should be his priority. @Kathleen995

Comedycook · 20/08/2024 12:27

I'm very easy going but I'd be fuming at this.

Nicebloomers · 20/08/2024 12:26

YANBU

Another guy who doesn’t see why his leisure time should be compromised by having a family. This selfish attitude of his does not bode well long term. You have no idea what state you will be in physically at 6 weeks. Start thinking about when you’re are going away for a week without him and the kids if you’re as petty as me. If you’re not, think about marriage counselling because if does sound like you need to work on your relationship. Best of luck and fingers crossed for an uncomplicated delivery!

ActualChips · 20/08/2024 12:24

Kathleen995 · 20/08/2024 11:27

Thank you. It does upset me that we should be really excited for the new baby and everything seems so fraught with arguments and stress and misery, tbh. I just feel very taken for granted and not made to feel special at all. I don't enjoy pregnancy and have had quite poor mental health during both pregnancies, I also just feel like a blob and undesirable and I feel like my partner does little to make me feel wanted, or even seen.

The money has been a factor in this too - he earns more than me (by about 15k) but we split the mortgage, bills and nursery costs evenly so I think I feel it more disproportionately than he does and have hardly any money left for myself by the end of the month (which he knows.) However he will be paying for everything while I'm on SMP so that sort of evens it out.

He is a very good co-parent and I feel like in general we split the childcare very evenly, but our relationship just feels platonic at best, incompatible at worst. The lack of effort for date nights etc (and putting basically zero effort into my birthday, in the middle of all this) is definitely the crux of the issue, and the golf holiday just feels like insult to injury at this point :(

Edited

Your boyfriend is pointless. He's meant to be enhancing your life and benefitting you. Do you own your own house or are you dependent on him? Without the legal protections of marriage this would be awful.

buttonsB4 · 20/08/2024 12:15

Just a heads up to all the people who say "get your mum to come & help", the OP's mum could be:

Dead
An alcoholic
In prison
Living in a different country
Have a full time job
Be a carer for elderly parents
Have their own DC to care for
Not want to spend a week caring for a newborn and toddler

All of which would render them unable, unsuitable or unwilling to come and help.

Why oh why is the default setting always to find the nearest woman to care for the kids when the child (in this situation) has two parents??

OP, your DP should have cancelled his holiday when he realised how close it was to your due date. He should also be putting more effort into his relationship with you than with his friends.

You and the kids should be his priority and you're clearly, very sadly not.

dbeuowlxb173939 · 20/08/2024 12:10

"doesn't feel he gets to spend anywhere near as much time as he would like to with friends/exercising/doing things for himself"

Boo hoo, did you get your tiny violin out?
Welcome to parenting!

Tell him when you get divorced he will have all week and EOW to do whatever he likes!

dbeuowlxb173939 · 20/08/2024 12:03

I think he should have cancelled when you realised how young your baby was going to be when he was meant to be away!

That's assuming baby comes on time too, you could be 2 weeks overdue and have a c section so not even able to drive when he's away, never mind the exhaustion and pain from giving birth.

Spending time with friends is a good thing but this clearly isn't the right time.

Do you have any family who could stay with you to help out?

GinForBreakfast · 20/08/2024 11:57

A week away is absolutely ridiculous at that time. I think part of the problem is that none of his close friends have children so their lives are continuing unaffected.

Small children do make life different, there is less time and energy and money for the things you used to do. But assuming he made an active choice to be a father he should not be complaining. It's not forever. A golfing holiday with his buddies is not a necessity.

sunsetsandboardwalks · 20/08/2024 11:52

The holiday wouldn't bother me as it was booked before you were pregnant.

But his attitude and the fact that he doesn't prioritise you and your relationship is a big problem imo. He needs to realise he's not single and childfree like his mates - he has a family now and that has to come first, especially when his children are so small.

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