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Kirstie Allsop's 15 Year Old Son

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ImAFemaleVersionOfRoyKeane · 20/08/2024 05:23

Kirstie Allsop has just posted on X (Twitter) that her 15 year old son has just returned from inter-railing around Europe.

He was accompanied by his 16 year old friend.

AIBU to think this is too young?

These situations may seem OK but at that age they think they are invincible, so they can be impulsive and not make the best decisions, especially when something goes wrong!

OP posts:
BridgetJonesBigPants · 23/08/2024 18:11

Noononoo · 23/08/2024 14:32

To let a girl at 15 go interailing by herself would be extremely irresponsible

But Kirsty allsop's son wasn't alone, he was with friends.

Gogogo12345 · 23/08/2024 14:43

Marinade · 20/08/2024 09:49

But it says that her son is 15, how is this even possible?

Private rooms usually.shared with the one over 16

Noononoo · 23/08/2024 14:32

To let a girl at 15 go interailing by herself would be extremely irresponsible

strawberryshortcakescat · 23/08/2024 11:26

Perhaps a little bit young for my liking, but he's not my child.
Mine has just been aged 18 (Year13).
And I was nervous but the four of them coped so well.
If he is familiar with travelling I'm sure it was okay. Plus it's pretty easy to fly out and rescue them if something happens.

sassyclassyandsmartassy · 22/08/2024 18:36

Every child is different with different perspectives built from the guidance, support and experiences they have in life and every parent is different in the way they approach parenting their children, partly influenced by the child themselves and their capabilities. Kirsty and her son obviously both felt this was within his capabilities and he’s returned back fine with a lot of new experiences, memories and stories.

Personally I remember at such an age I was pretty confident and resilient and I could have managed that. Sadly I do have to agree with some other posters that what I see leads me to believe that children are developing skills less quickly these days and I am a firm believer that the current tech culture doesn’t help!

Bristolbred · 22/08/2024 15:13

O dear some people love to mollycoddle their kids. I some countries 15 is a full adult with a job responsibilities etc. the same was true in the UK in the past. Sounds like he had a great time.

TickleMyPickle · 22/08/2024 13:54

We let our just turned 16 year old go to Reading festival for 4 nights, and to be honest I would’ve much preferred him to have been Interailing!!

BridgetJonesBigPants · 22/08/2024 13:49

Noononoo · 22/08/2024 09:46

The bit on my X related her answering someone who had said maybe OK for boy but not for a girl of that age to go inter-railing alone and she answered why was it any different for a girl? Astonishment all round.

Are you saying we shouldn't let our daughters do things we would let our sons do?

Is that not like saying they can't wear mini skirts because people will sexually assault them?

Why do we limit our daughters because of men's behaviour? Why not keep our sons at home if we can't trust men?

ClarafromHR · 22/08/2024 10:34

My BF and I toured England and Scotland on a Brit rail pass back in the summer of 1973. We had just turned 17. We saved our wages from our part-time jobs in a supermarket and our parents paid airfares.We flew from Canada.
We stayed in youth hostels which was challenging and occasionally with relatives of mine. Towards the end of our six weeks away, we scraped together enough money to stay in a bed and breakfast in York. I found the receipt last year when chucking out ready for a house move. £3.00!! Astonishing.
We did have our share of attention from mostly older men, but we could cope with this as we’d been propositioned/shouted at since we were 13 or 14.
It was back to school in the September and I remember feeling so sophisticated 😉 as our other friends had spent the summer at home or camping with their parents.
It was the best trip and I wish I was still in touch with my old friend so we could reminisce.

Noononoo · 22/08/2024 09:46

The bit on my X related her answering someone who had said maybe OK for boy but not for a girl of that age to go inter-railing alone and she answered why was it any different for a girl? Astonishment all round.

Anyotherdude · 22/08/2024 09:13

As a Society we infantilise our children.
I was working (weekends and holidays) at that age, and had long been capable of travelling up to London from my Middlesex home to sightsee and shop on my own, with friends, and, from the age of 11, with my brother and his friend - 5 and 4 years younger than me respectively, providing childcare in the holidays by visiting the museums there Etc.
At 15, I would wager I was more of a responsible adult than most 15-year-olds today - possibly than most 21-year-olds, if the interns I work with are anything to go by!
Kirstie seems to be a no-nonsense, old-fashioned kind of Mum - so I’m sure that her children are more advanced and capable of autonomy than most others that age now.
What is strange though, is that with the availability of constant contact with parents (mobile phones Etc.) more children aren’t given even more freedom than I had in the 1970’s!

Lyraloo · 22/08/2024 08:51

LlynTegid · 20/08/2024 19:38

I don't think someone in the public eye should be posting details about their children such as this.

Was her son one of the children who were sat in economy on a flight whilst she was in a business class seat?

So judgemental! Why be so nasty and negative. There’s so much jealousy on here, that having a sensible conversation is becoming a rare thing!

Lyraloo · 22/08/2024 08:48

JudgeJ · 21/08/2024 23:05

So you're saying that it's OK to insult those in a better financial position than yourself, instead of saying that it's wrong to insult people. MN is, as ever, the home is utter hypocrisy and double standards.

Absolutely agree!

Blueink · 22/08/2024 00:50

I agree it is young (so is 16), many places don’t even allow under 18 to stay unaccompanied for one night in a hotel.

I wouldn’t have agreed to this, but his DM has strange ideas generally, so it’s no surprise.

ThursdayTomorrow · 21/08/2024 23:20

JudgeJ · 21/08/2024 23:05

So you're saying that it's OK to insult those in a better financial position than yourself, instead of saying that it's wrong to insult people. MN is, as ever, the home is utter hypocrisy and double standards.

Rich people are very privileged in pretty much every area of work, property, education, travel, possessions, food and shelter.
Being rich in itself really doesn’t need special consideration.

ThursdayTomorrow · 21/08/2024 23:16

I’m on some groups for parents with kids about to start university. You wouldn’t believe the amount of people who say their 18 year old isn’t really an adult and can’t cook or clean for themselves. Many parents are leaving it to their kid’s future uni flat mates to teach them how to cook and clean up after themselves.
I fear many parents are just expecting their kid’s flatmates to clean for their child as they haven’t bothered to teach them any life skills themselves.
Kids should be pretty independent by 18 (unless SEN of course) so a safe trip round Europe is great if you have the money.
My son has Coeliac disease so travelling is pretty difficult - there is such a lack of understanding about cross contamination that eating out or cooking in communal kitchens is very risky (he could be very ill for 4-7 days if glutened by even a tiny crumb, which isn’t good if you are travelling), so we are trying to help him gain independence in other ways.
Parents who are not mega rich can still help by letting the child take on responsibilities at home with housework, cooking, caring for younger siblings, getting jobs, travelling to an unfamiliar area by bus and finding their way around.

JudgeJ · 21/08/2024 23:05

EdithBond · 20/08/2024 14:11

I agree about rudeness and understand your point. But it’s not quite the same given the context of shocking class discrimination and very high wealth inequality in UK. Like saying it’s the same if women say sexist things about men. While wrong, it’s not quite the same because we live in a patriarchal society, which is structurally discriminatory to women. And I don’t get what sounded jealous about that post. I think most working class people are proud of who they are, rather than jealous.

So you're saying that it's OK to insult those in a better financial position than yourself, instead of saying that it's wrong to insult people. MN is, as ever, the home is utter hypocrisy and double standards.

Firebird83 · 21/08/2024 23:01

I went to Germany with two friends when I was 16. We stayed in youth hostels. This was 20 years ago though so I suppose things are different now.

RampantIvy · 21/08/2024 22:59

When DD went interrailing 5 years ago none of the hostels they stayed in would accept under 18s unless they were accompanied by an adult.

HerRoyalNotness · 21/08/2024 22:58

Depends on the kid. Mine couldn’t attempt it. Doubt he could at 17 now. That’s because we haven’t travelled much in the last 10yrs. We live in a town with no public transport so has had to be driven everywhere, and has no other family here he could be put on a train or plane to visit. So he’s not had the opportunities to become that independent. Sadly.

Lyraloo · 21/08/2024 22:54

ImAFemaleVersionOfRoyKeane · 20/08/2024 05:23

Kirstie Allsop has just posted on X (Twitter) that her 15 year old son has just returned from inter-railing around Europe.

He was accompanied by his 16 year old friend.

AIBU to think this is too young?

These situations may seem OK but at that age they think they are invincible, so they can be impulsive and not make the best decisions, especially when something goes wrong!

You are being totally unreasonable. It’s absolutely nothing to do with you!

Skodacool · 21/08/2024 20:18

CrushingOnRubies · 21/08/2024 09:05

Kirsty was speaking on the Today show this morning. Just before 9am about her justifying of her son's trip. And her reasons are very reasonable and sensible. Have a listen on BBC sounds

Yes I heard it and she sounded very reasonable.

Whenwillitgetwarm · 21/08/2024 20:16

She knows her own kid and what he’s capable of. She would have had a tracker app on his phone too. She knew he’d be fine. And I’m glad she was confident in her choice.

ColdWaterDipper · 21/08/2024 20:13

It’s fine - he’s 16 today and has probably been away at boarding school since at least 11 or 13. It makes you more independent.

pinkgown · 21/08/2024 19:52

A friend and I spent a week at Butlins alone at 14. DH and friends went on a YHA cycling trip at 12 and to Switzerland at 14. I used to travel alone from the age of 12 on a coach (with a change) to visit my best friend 100 miles away and vice versa. There were other trips and outings... All long before mobile phones. Parents today are too precious. Children aren't stupid, they can follow instructions and improvise if there are problems.