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To feel annoyed when he tries to compare my achievements with himself?

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PrueHal · 19/08/2024 21:50

My partner is a professor at a university. He's a wonderful guy but occasionally has the ego to go with it I have to say.

I have a full time job and I'm a creative writer. Over the last 10 years I've had several short stories published and my first novel is out on submission which is very exciting.

Sometimes, if I mention something that has happened at a previous book launch or event, he'll say 'oh yeah I remember that kind of thing from when I was writing fiction.' Except he wrote fiction when he was 16 and never published anything. He also talks about a novel he wrote when he was 15 seriously when I am talking about my own book as a 31 year old.

So I silently seethe and move the conversation on when he does this but I actually want to say 'your attempts as a teenager don't compare with my success as an adult. Do shut up.' Because you know what? As an adult he's very successful and it makes me feel like I can't just have this one thing for myself.

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DramaLlamaBangBang · 30/08/2024 13:10

Ivesaidenough · 19/08/2024 22:11

When he talks about his job, tell him you remember lecturing because you gave lectures at primary school about dinosaurs for show and tell. So you know just what he means...

Yeah. When he says he's a Professor of Law you can tell everyone about the time you did a debate in sixth form about banning smoking or something!
Him writing a story when he was 16 and using that as a comparison to your career is just as ridiculous. I wouldn't seethe. I would pull him up on it, and say what you have gere- that it feels as if he is undermining your achievements.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 30/08/2024 12:57

Congratulations on your offer!

On the hobby thing, I don't write full time. I have a job too. Yet I have nearly 30 novels out there, have won five major awards and sell a bucketload of books every year. I get fan mail!

I can't write full time as I'm single and have bills to pay. Royalties can be variable, but bills aren't!

We've all had the 'hobby' remark, just wait until the money rolls in, that tends to concentrate their minds.

AuntieEstablishment · 30/08/2024 11:19

PrueHal · 30/08/2024 10:33

On the hand, yesterday I was stressed at work so he brought me a homemade lunch and then later ran me a bath which had a glass of wine sitting next to it when I got there

He has many good points but this very very annoying one too.

He's insecure. Wanting to be the important one in the marriage, the most interesting one. And he's slightly panicking that you're going to be very successful and will leave him, so he's being extra nice with the things that are within his control... Making you lunch, probably telling others how proud he is.

My marriage ended partly because of this. I think you need to sit down and be honest in order to give your relationship the best chance.

Meadowwild · 30/08/2024 11:10

Jokingnotjoking · 19/08/2024 22:08

Tell him with all your publication success and burgeoning published novel you’re going to scope out lecturing positions. Then you’ll be Prof. PrueHal.

Margaret Atwood tells a lovely story of meeting a heart doctor at a party. he said, 'Oh when I retire I am planning to write a novel.' So she replied, 'Great. When I retire I am planning to do a little open heart surgery.'

People have no idea.

ThatTealViewer · 30/08/2024 11:04

PrueHal · 30/08/2024 10:33

On the hand, yesterday I was stressed at work so he brought me a homemade lunch and then later ran me a bath which had a glass of wine sitting next to it when I got there

He has many good points but this very very annoying one too.

Absolutely none of this is relevant. Nobody is saying he’s a terrible person. He might be absolutely lovely in all other ways. This particular thing is upsetting you, so ask him to stop.

Why is this presenting you with such difficulty?

ThatTealViewer · 30/08/2024 11:03

PrueHal · 30/08/2024 10:32

@ThatTealViewer I just responded 'It isn't a hobby it's my career' and walked away as I had a meeting.

But I am realizing this could be a significant issue. Feeling supported and seen is 100% necessary.

Previously I dated less ambitious guys who frustrated me as I said, but I sure do miss the fact they never tried to suggest my writing as a mere hobby.

I know that’s what you did. I’m asking why you haven’t said ‘I do not like it when you do X, please stop.’ Clear, direct communication.

It wouldn’t even matter if it wasn’t a significant issue. Your partner is doing something you don’t like, so tell them and ask them to stop.

PrueHal · 30/08/2024 10:33

On the hand, yesterday I was stressed at work so he brought me a homemade lunch and then later ran me a bath which had a glass of wine sitting next to it when I got there

He has many good points but this very very annoying one too.

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PrueHal · 30/08/2024 10:32

@ThatTealViewer I just responded 'It isn't a hobby it's my career' and walked away as I had a meeting.

But I am realizing this could be a significant issue. Feeling supported and seen is 100% necessary.

Previously I dated less ambitious guys who frustrated me as I said, but I sure do miss the fact they never tried to suggest my writing as a mere hobby.

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JennaRink · 30/08/2024 10:24

Wrong thread

zingally · 30/08/2024 10:12

My sisters DH is the exact same.

Every minor success someone has, he's had one the same or better.

There's never just a "well done! That's fantastic!"

It's always, "That's good. When I did that, I..."

I find it utterly infuriating.

I've just bought a new house, and really love it. His response was "Oh, I wouldn't want a driveway that shape." Seriously? Fuck off.

You're not alone OP!

thing47 · 30/08/2024 10:10

Does your DH consider that everyone who works part-time is only 'doing a hobby?' I think a whole range of professionals might beg to differ, from GPs to teachers, to civil servants to, well just anyone if the government's latest idea goes through. Even people conducting research don't necessarily do it full time.

He sounds like a total dick.

ThatTealViewer · 30/08/2024 10:00

PrueHal · 30/08/2024 09:31

Maybe I spoke too soon!

This morning he described my writing as a hobby and I said it's a career, not a hobby.

He said he thought of it was a hobby because it wasn't full time 'like I do research full time'.

There are plenty of authors who don't write full time. I am starting to worry that hes not going to take me seriously and this is really important to me.

So, tell him you don’t like it and ask him to stop. Communicate with your partner. Like most of us have been saying from the beginning of this thread. Why are you so reluctant to do this?

Wishimaywishimight · 30/08/2024 09:42

I'd be tempted to say "yes but, just for the moment, we're talking about me".

PrueHal · 30/08/2024 09:31

Maybe I spoke too soon!

This morning he described my writing as a hobby and I said it's a career, not a hobby.

He said he thought of it was a hobby because it wasn't full time 'like I do research full time'.

There are plenty of authors who don't write full time. I am starting to worry that hes not going to take me seriously and this is really important to me.

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PrueHal · 29/08/2024 09:50

Hi all, yes the novel was out on submission, but as of this week, I've been offered a book deal!

So far he has been supportive and hasn't dated utter anything about his teenage ramblings.

If he does I'll start by ribbing him a little. If that doesn't work, I'll take it much more seriously. Exactly as a PP said, this is my career and he did refer to it as a hobby recently. He won't be able to say that now.

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angeldelite · 27/08/2024 13:52

What would happen if you ribbed him about this, e.g. next time he mentions his fiction say ‘teenage attempts at a book don’t count’?

Overtheatlantic · 27/08/2024 13:46

He might be an academic, even a very good one, but there are still better ones. He’d do well to remember that.

Sonia1111 · 27/08/2024 13:39

Some people with autism will always relate someone's experience with their own, to show that they understand. It isn't them trying to one-up and they don't know how irritating it is.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 25/08/2024 16:46

OP might just be waiting until she receives an offer for her manuscript before she says anything to him. As it stands at present, until she gets that offer then she's still an unpublished author and he can dismiss her as such. There are thousands of people who write books and are never published, so waiting for an offer would be the best way forward.

AnyThoughtsWelcome · 25/08/2024 12:39

This is one of those frustrating threads where it seems the OP will never dare to speak the truth to her irritating partner.

@PrueHal you’re an intelligent adult, so talk to him about it. Honestly and in a measured way.

Life2Short4Nonsense · 25/08/2024 10:49

PrueHal · 19/08/2024 23:21

@Vroomfondleswaistcoat yes he has said this. He said 'I'd still like to write fiction if I had the time...maybe when I retire' - as though it's the only thing standing between him and success.

Also suggesting he is SO busy with his very important job which doesn't leave him free to pursue it. I don't pursue it because I have time, but because it's my passion.

He is generally very supportive so I'm being a bit mean, but oh it grinds my gears.

Why do you go along with it? I would just ask him (innocently) if that's what happened at his ook launch?

Or when he says he could "only have enought time when he retires", that he could have the time if he made it. I am sure you did not quit your job to write. You did it as a hobby and turned it into professional success.

MasterBeth · 25/08/2024 10:31

PrueHal · 19/08/2024 22:01

@MasterBeth how is he right?

He publishes in academic journals and as a creative writer I publish in anthologies and a novel publication, which is different.

He has certainly not had the success I have in fiction. If he thinks that and doesn't treat me as an equal, that's a problem.

Didn't realised you have a published novel. You said in your first post you had some short stories published and a novel out for submission.

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 25/08/2024 10:16

He hasn't an ounce of genuine generosity towards you, to be spouting that shit about himself at 15 Years. Him telling you that he will return to it in retirement is a further put down.
This is a very good point. It is reducing your life‘s work to a hobby. Something you do in your spare time. Not worthy of calling it an actual career.

Sheeplesss · 25/08/2024 10:11

OP, you are so far invested and in denial about his character it's actually a bit funny.
He's a boring tedious pain in the ass, a full of himself twat.
You have clearly been massively in awe of him for years.
He has a huge opinion of himself and you have supported that....him being the oh so brilliant man🙄.

The truth is, his is a very fragile little ego and he has NEVER felt an ounce of generosity towards you in your success.

How superior he must feel to you that you have tolerated him comparing his 15 year old written ramblings to an adult woman's published work.

If it wasn't so preposterous it would be funny.
You have allowed yourself to be diminished by him professionally which clearly means you have huge self esteem issues.
Because allowing him to repeatedly assert such utter rubbish again and again over the years, until you are seething means you have zero self respect or value for yourself.

Hos could you and have allowed him spout such rubbish unchallenged?
Your relationship is a success on his terms and you know it.
He is only lovely when his is the only star that shines.
He hasn't an ounce of genuine generosity towards you, to be spouting that shit about himself at 15 Years.
Him telling you that he will return to it in retirement is a further put down.

Do yourself a favour and get therapy.
Do the www.freedomprogramme.co.uk which will hopefully help build your self esteem and boundaries.

You are with him since you were 21?
Oh oh......is he much older than you?

Teacher/ pupil dynamics that his fragile ego cannot cope with morphing into an equal adult relationship?

There is a type of academic who always ends up in a relationship with an in awe of them pupil...is that you?

Time to grow up and value yourself and dump this fragile ego.
Your gut is screaming at you to listen to it.
You deserve better.

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FckTheSchGateHuns · 25/08/2024 09:24

Fight fire with fire. Everytime he brings up teaching be like "AH yes I know exactly what you mean from my time teach friend to drive/showing sibling how to lay carpet/talking sibling through a recipe/etc/etc"
NTA