To suggest a male curfew one night a week

I wonder what sort of impact that’s had.

OP I get your thinking. It’s exhausting having to plan and ensure safety on a night out.

I always assumed the ‘threat’ would ease as we got older, but it really doesn’t.

This is heartening, we need more of this.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/article/2024/aug/20/carol-higgins-father-abuse-how-we-survive And when it does come to light men often don’t want to know.

Thus would not be an inconvenience, this would be denying liberty.

And people fume when incels link feminism is linked to Naziism.

Even communist china, north korea and the islamofascist countries don't repress one sex that much.

I am not saying I agree with the idea of a curfew or that it is workable - it’s a starting point for a discussion that the issue is with men and whilst it may only be a small % who do this, the commen factor is men and the violence is severe. So rather than moderating the behaviour of women to protect themselves we should be looking at it a different way.

@noworklifebalance ,

‘I don’t think OP and others on this thread are even suggesting that women should have power over men but to be able to go out with the threat of sexual aggression or violence.’

Being able to impose a curfew is the very definition of having power.

‘Whilst I agree with some of your points, men the world over have found ways to have power over women.’

And, from time immemorial, Jews have been victimised by the vast majority of the World’s population. Does that give Israel the moral right to curfew gentiles?

But you have to be realistic about what the actual threat is yes 80% of violent crimes are committed by men and 98% of sexual crimes are committed by men. But the reality is it's only about 1% of men who are commiting crimes

Exactly.

Whilst I agree with some of your points, men the world over have found ways to have power over women.
I don’t think OP and others on this thread are even suggesting that women should have power over men but to be able to go out with the threat of sexual aggression or violence.

This thread is a combination of hilarious and chilling in equal measure.

Hilarious because the vast majority of people going out like to do so in mixed set groups. Can you imagine the effect on business if curfew night fell on Valentines.

Chilling because it shows the innate tendency of people to want to control others based on characteristics. The excuse of victimhood is no more than that, an excuse.

As a Jewish person it really concerns me what Israel is currently doing and becoming, in a variety of ways. And it has a lot in common with this ‘thought experiment’; perpetual perceived victimhood. Arabs are a danger to Israel, so Israel can attack and kill them at will, regardless of whether they are the Arabs actually responsible for attacking. This is where this kind of thinking goes.

Luckily, it is highly unlikely that women will never have that kind of power over men, mainly because women and men are inextricably tied together; not different classes who can ever live independently of one another.

Well... you soon learn to avoid this type of person. Clearly not a good one for mornings😆

At this point your the only person I wouldn't want to be out at night alone with you sound so aggressive

I've already posted, husband and dad of 19 year old daughter. I think it's a great idea. I worry each time they go out and they rarely venture out in the evenings because of the unknown.

Oh no! One of the 'ladies should always be polite' brigade is on patrol!

Not out of respect for the women in his life who he wants to show solidarity with? The 'nice' men on this board really can't see an inch past their own preferences, can they? If you cared a jot about the millions of women in the UK who've been sexually assaulted, harassed, abused, scared to go out in certain places after dark you might consider the possibility of voluntarily staying in one night.

But no. 'I'm not going to do it.' And what's more your wives are saying you're not going to do it, either. As a previous poster's said, the lack of insight and understanding here has reached an all-time low.

As you say a lot of violence happens behind closed doors. And I doubt a rapist (who is planning to break the law by, you know, assaulting someone) will be stopped by a curfew.

Of course I am not saying all men are predators- the level of intelligence on this thread is a new low

Who's not a man

Can't imagine for one minute that any man who intends to harm a woman would take any notice of this.

Everyone - men and women - should adapt ways to protect themselves when coming home late at night. In an ideal world we wouldn't have to... but this isn't an ideal world.

What others choose to do is entirely up to them but if I was travelling home late at night, for example, I would probably do the following:
-Not wear earphones
-Not wear high heels (that I can't run in, either for a bus or from an attackers)
-Keep my phone out of sight
-Get a cab home from the train station.
-If I have to walk, stay in crowded, built-up areas.
-I don't drink but, if I did, I would think it unwise to get so drunk that I couldn't have my wits about me.

Well, of course people are going to say that. You are literally saying all men are predators, which is frankly bullshit!

Well, haven't you jumped to conclusions!?I'm a woman - I still think this comment is bullshit!

Sarah Everard was attacked by a cop, a man literally paid to protect the public.

But let's just blame ordinary husbands, fathers, sons, brothers just out and about of an evening minding their own business.

Seriously, calm TF down!

Or maybe as has been posted, most of that abuse happens behind closed doors and isn't seen by anyone.

London Bridge was men stepping in to protect women?? Men stepping in against other men , not relelente