To suggest a male curfew one night a week

No people have decided it means that but if you understand English you must know that it does not mean that as no where does it state the perpetrator is male. It is shorthand that isn't accurate.

So your solution is what. Alternate the days in which men and women are allowed outside ? Just when I thought the thread couldn’t get any more bonkers.

I'm pointing out that the words VAWG when grouped together have a specific meaning outside of your personal understanding of the words. I didn't decide that, so there's no point arguing the toss with me about it. I'm just making you aware of your error.

I think 99% of men are trustworthy and would sooner protect you than harm you. The 1% that might be a problem wouldn’t be the type to follow a curfew anyway, so you’d probably make things more dangerous.

The victim is female, anyone can be violent even women. Actually consider each word and tell me where a male perpetrator is specified in violence against women and girls. It is a shorthand and people are lazy and just accept the shorthand, doesn't mean it is right.

And trying to stop one source of evil by introducing another will never be an answer. Depriving innocent people of their liberty should never be an option.

I understand what you are saying OP. It would be nice, but only in theory.

Presumably there would be an exception for police? If not, all female officers would probably need to work that night meaning that they couldn't enjoy 'ladies night'. Male doctors coming home from saving lives? Are all the taxi drivers going to need to be females? What about trans women, how are we deciding if they are allowed out? Are the men allowed to be waiters and bartenders? If not all women is hospitality will need to be on duty that night and won't make ladies night. If so, do they have to wait until, midnight? 7am the next day until they're allowed to come home?

Ideas like this aren't the answer, as tempting as they might sound. There is no definitive answer as such as evil will always exist. The only answer isn't a solution, merely mitigation. Education, awareness, punishment and women's concerns being treated seriously

@Iwasafool Violence against women and girls is violence perpetrated because the victim is female. The perpetrators are male.

But it's very rare for a male to commit violent crimes against unknown women the majority are domestic. This is why when someone is murdered the first people the police question are the ones closest to them

You can say it means one thing when the fact is violence against women and girls can be perpetrated by anyone. My DD was suicidal about violence she suffered at school from a group of girls, are you telling me that wasn't violence against a girl? Seriously have a think about it, we aren't in 1984 and we aren't using new speak.

If you specifically want to analyse crimes you have to use the right criteria, you are talking about violence against women and girls perpetrated by males, words have meanings regardless of what you think.

No I don’t think he was bragging to his mates I’m referring to the police who did nothing once the crime was reported. I think that men need to be more vocal in shooting down casual sexism when they witness it. I don’t think a curfew would work but I’m with OPs sentiment, drastic times call for drastic measures.

You'd have thought wrong then. VAWG refers specifically to types of violence disproportionately perpetuated by men against women and girls. A violent attack by one woman against another doesn't meet this criteria, and so would not be considered as part of a discussion on VAWG. Just as an attack on a woman by a random man in the street wouldn't meet the criteria to be classed as domestic violence. Its important things are classified correctly so we understand the scale and nature of particular issues. Otherwise we may erroneously conclude that women face equal threat from each other as they do from men, or that women have similar offending patterns, and target resources in the wrong direction.

You could list people who have never come forward, never told anyone about the assault? Amazing, have you thought about commercialising this talent.

How many women do you think commit violent crime against an unknown male? Women simply don't walk around targeting strangers. It's so rare we could actually list all these perpetrators from memory.

Men and women. Violence by women against men is known to be under reported as men are embarrassed and frequently mocked if a woman harms them. You only have to look at the attitudes about a teenager being abused by an adult of the opposite sex, a girl is a victim a boy is the envy of men as they have fantasies about what they'd have thought at 15 if the French mistress had seduced them.

Well under the OPs plan there wouldn't have been men to pull the violent woman off so it has quite a lot to do with it.

I'd have thought it was obvious what it has to do with VAWG, a woman was attacked by a woma, that was violence against a woman.

All I know is I have never walked past a group of biological women and feared they might rape then murder me. Not once, ever. Humiliate me, yes. Verbally abuse me, yes. But there is only one sex that makes me fear for my life on a daily basis.

The acknowledgement of biological reality, that men are physically stronger than women and can therefore typically impose their will on women by force is nothing to do with toxic masculinity. Its a mere statement of fact. If you choose to misrepresent that to mean men SHOULD be big and strong, and therefore abusive that's on you. It isn't what I wrote.

I'm sorry that happened to you. However I think its obvious I'm speaking about the norm rather than the exception. The attack that happened to you is not part of an identified pattern of behaviour amongst women towards men (unlike the officially recognised pattern, the 'national energency' of male violence) Women as a group pose no threat to men as a group. Because as a group women lack the power. There are always exceptions to patterns, and again, I'm sorry you were one of them.

Yes it is terrible, and it proves that it goes on behind closed doors,
And we all know that that a lot of these abusive men are charming men outside of the home.
Or do you believe that he was bragging this out to his mates everyday?

I think it would be an interesting experiment, yet would men really notice the difference?

Men are much more likely to be attacked by another man than a woman. Add alcohol to the mix and there are more issues. Men in general don’t feel threatened by women nor expect them to overpower and hurt them. Also, would women be safe if this happened?

Sadly few people care about anyone other than their own very narrow demographic - and some are make that very narrow indeed. Women and girls are subjected to appalling working conditions and actual slavery across the middle east and africa to produce goods brought by women in the west. It would be easy to reduce harm significantly by reducing clothing and makeup consumption for example.

(For child labour and slavery in your makeup, google "slavery in the make up industry" and you can read at your leisure). Cosmetics companies will claim they now avoid it - but they rely on intermediaries who have been found repeatedly lying and misrepresenting the source of the raw ingredients.

Men are abused in the harvesting of the materials for lipsticks and mascara - but that's obviously outside this main topic. (www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-68369339)

Ah, I've just thought of a problem with this hypothetical discussion that's causing so much upset. What would trans people do on this day?

@twojumps 😂- again showing you haven’t read the thread. If you post on a public forum then people have the right to come back at you again

I rather actual proper lengthy sentences and punishments where violent offenders can’t just be let out after a few years or even months because they were good in prison or prison was overcrowded, violence/abuse is taken more seriously, and that people remember they don’t own anyone simply because they are in a relationship together or entitled to other people’s attention because they are attracted to them than a curfew.