To suggest a male curfew one night a week

The idea is morally repugnant and shouldn't've got past the first page.

Just saying 'Thought experiment' doesn't give people the right to be offensive.

Sure, but what's the experiment here? It leads nowhere, other than a society that has completely given up on the basic principles of liberal democratic society.

How is that going to turn out for women or anyone else?

It's not at all clear what the OP thought such a thought experiment might reveal, but actually it seems to me she thinks it's a serious possibility to be discussed.

Women couldn't really hurt you if we wanted to.

That's absolutely saying women can't hurt men. Plenty of people on this site act as though women are no threat.

Some women can and are a threat to some men and we need to stop acting otherwise

The predators that prey on women will not follow a curfew and then you’ll have women out thinking their safe and if something does happen one of the very decent males who might have stopped and saved them are stuck in on the curfew.

Criminals do not follow rules and the law. We have no way near enough police to cover something like this. If anything you can bet crime would rise.

I grew up in central London. I am hands down more 'aware' than a lot of people.

Stick to whatever you like.

Must go now... I'm off to meet some amazing male friends! 👍

Totally agree. I cannot believe this is a serious conversation...

I'm not sure if you are agreeing with me, or suggesting the same for me! :)

Ditto

Quite incredible lack of awareness of the reality. I stick by my original assesment.

@TempestTost Are you familiar with the concept of a "thought experiment"?

I think that's quite enough internet for you for today.

Allies of what, totalitarian regimes?

It's completely awful, you can't tell people they can't go out and about their normal business because of their sex.

@ButWhatAboutTheBees "
You're going to keep living in your little bubble of thinking it's ok to suggest women can't hurt men and there's no point trying to point out to you how problematic that is..."

Nobody thinks women can't hurt men. But women as a group are not a threat to men as a group. Men are a threat to women as a group AND other men as a group.

sewage workers, bin'men', Engineers, Factory workers, various 24 hr monitoring jobs.

Yes the list is quite large once you actually sit down and think about it.
And many of these jobs are the jobs that women do not want to do.

It wouldn't be a minority of women though...

EVERY nighttime job would need exclusive female staff

So not just taxi drivers but bus drivers, dispatchers, firefighters, police, paramedics, doctors, nurses, hospital reception, chefs, wait staff, bartenders, security, overnight warehouse staff, overnight freight drivers, delivery drivers, takeaway staff, shop assistants, overnight construction, after dinner speakers, actors on stage, staff in all entertainment venues, late night TV hosts...

Think how many of those jobs are done by men.

You're going to keep living in your little bubble of thinking it's ok to suggest women can't hurt men and there's no point trying to point out to you how problematic that is...

The thing is-if this thought experiment became a "thing", all the nice men so many people say all the men they know are would be perfectly happy to go along with it. Because they know one of the reasons the not nice men are able to do bad things is because nice men don't generally stand up against them-sometimes for good reasons. This would be a good and safe way for nice men to do something and show the em selves to be allies.

Yeah, its a good thought experiment, but practical application is where it falls down (well, that and civil liberties).

Everanewbie

I do find it amusing that even as a thought experiment, its OK to discriminate against the majority of men that are not an issue to women, but its not OK to make a minority of women work the curfew so that the majority could enjoy it.

There is a woman only taxi firm in London. so it can work but I suspect only in larger towns and cities.

Absolutely. Excepting male police you'd be reducing the risk but not eliminating it. You'd need to staff the police force exclusively with women, which would stop participation in the women's night by any female police officers! And presumably the male population wouldn't take a male only lockdown particularly well so policing the civil unrest exclusively by female officers falls down by simple biology - inferior strength and size.

A male lockdown night is a fantasy that just couldn't happen in reality. Confining men to the home is just totalitarian nonsense. But I do agree with the concept of more female safe spaces, women only gyms/swimming pools/nightlife, nightlife especially with some sort of transport scheme/female taxi service where women can as close as guarantee their safety.

If there was an 'exception for police', Wayne Couzens would still have been out and about the night he killed Sarah Everard.

So, do you see where this curfew idea falls down!?

Women as a group are not a threat to men as a group. The occasional anecdote of behaviour falling outside of the usual pattern, does not create a new pattern. Just as when my cat scratched next doors dog on the nose and made her bleed, we didnt conclude kittens pose a threat to rottweilers.
If you are a man who is frightened of women, then I'm sorry your experiences have led you to that position. However, fortunately such experiences are very rare, regardless of certain propaganda that aims to minimise male violence by pretending violence is nothing to do with sex.

I agree that the police are useless and need to do more.

I think that men need to be more vocal in shooting down casual sexism when they witness it.

They should do but you are ignoring that those that you want to be more vocal are the ones that don't hang around with those that are casually sexist, and are the ones that are generally fearful of stepping up due to the responses that they have received,

drastic times call for drastic measures.
You are right it does, but this starts in the home and with both parents not excusing poor behaviour.

You specifically said women weren't a threat to men

Which is a lie. And part of toxic masculinity

Take it up with the government and the police then. Lobby your MP, write to your councillor. Because of all the priorities to address around the current epidemic of male on female violence, I'm sure a guy on MN not liking the words they use to describe it will be top of their list.