To suggest a male curfew one night a week

Well I’m the mother of two sons (and no daughters) and I think the concept and discussion is needed

yes I know that NAMALT but ONLY men commit that kind of crime against women (stalking, raping, stabbing, abusing, murdering etc)

it should be all the NAMALTS that are leading the charge against the men that are. But they are not, it’s up to us women to raise the issue.

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

One message it would send is DV is 'less serious' than stranger attack. Which is not true.

A large proportion of VAWG happens in homes and behind closed doors. In fact, I think, although I might be misremembering figures, women are at more risk of that than from stranger attack.

What do you suggest to tackle ongoing male violence?

For both DV and stranger attacks. Well-funded and effective public services:

Social care
Mental health services
DV services
Probation
CPS
Police
Substance issues services
More (social) housing
Non punitive benefits system
Job, education, and training opportunities.

That's what is needed for a safer and more cohesive society. Will it be done? I don't expect it will but it should be.

Of course stranger rapes happen but they are very rare as the Pp was pointing out.

Ironically a male curfew would probably see a huge reduction in male violence against males

The only person with a curfew should be you

I didn't say it didn't happen
I said MOST happens elsewhere

The stats show that most risk is from those known. Encouraging people to be terrified in the street is scaremongering

So you are ok with men being violent against men?

It is fear mongering.

Telling girls to carry umbrellas and their keys between their fingers and not wear a ponytail and hide if a man happens to walk near by...

Women are at risk from violent men and women anywhere, at any time. Recent events have once again shown that even in the day there is risk.

Scaremongering? This literally just happened in the city I live in. A woman was raped in the city centre on a walkway connecting a hotel and bar. By a complete stranger.

So that is a no then?

Of course if its left to the men then you are ok with them sorting out the content?

But then you run the risk of the Andrew Tate types getting in.

Exactly. The likelihood of being attacked might be fairly low but the consequences are usually devastating and life-changing.

To their new job mending the roads which they had to be drafted into to make up for the shortfall of labour one night a week.

I already walk without fear.

And I don't believe we should remove the civil rights of most law abiding snd decent men and boys.

Stupid click bait thread.

Ah! The sins of the few shall be vested in the many.

The men who are no danger would obey it. The men who are a danger would ignore it entirely.

Pointless.

I'm also pretty sure that rapists, and certainly child rapists, are considered the lowest of the low in prisons

Brothers/fathers/uncles "paying a visit" to lads who've wronged their female relatives

Men who jump in, often risking their own lives, to protect others from male violence

It is a problem that men address.

Where would you go out TO if all men had to stay at home? :-)

I guess that would be up to all the decent concerned and responsible men to organise for them, wouldn't it? Because women have their hands full enough as it is trying to use their experience to help younger women and girls. It's actually about time men stepped up to offer guidance to boys. Then maybe Andrew Tate wouldn't have found such a void to fill.

My DD used to walk at night without fear too. Until she was attacked only a few metres from home.
It's not fear mongering. Women are at risk from violent men indoors and out! Calling our sensible precautions and vigilance fear mongering is not helpful.

You hate all men don’t you ? Do you have any positive relationship with male family members? Or male friend?..Just curious..

Good idea but would never be practical. Ie shift workers carers etc. Think women only spaces/accommodation is a good idea.

Id personally be happy to see curfews for gangs and young people hanging around at night. Say 10pm.

Theres no reason for young people to be out that late.

Yes, I was thinking the same and it would trap women with a resentful man.

Anyway, why be scared of men, I think that is the wrong way to think about this. Personally, I don’t restrict myself through fear of men, I do what I want!

Who is going to police this ridiculous idea?
seeing as the police won’t be able to.
what age do you think it should start at?

How about if you changed ‘men’ to a particular ethnicity based on percentage convicted of violent crime? How would that thread go?

We have a really fundamental and, I believe, valid concept that everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty, as individuals.

Punishments due to belonging to a certain class or group are quite common in some parts of the world. I believe Hitler tried one based on his mistaken beliefs about people like me (I think curfews were involved in the beginning).

Even as a thought experiment, this is pretty vile.

And there’s me thinking that every male works 9-5 and none of them ever do night shifts…