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To suggest a male curfew one night a week

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twojumps · 19/08/2024 17:41

when women can walk free in the streets without fear?

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

I'd say every night but let's start with one.

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x2boys · 19/08/2024 19:33

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:29

I don’t think that the ‘undesirable shifts’ are mainly filled by those aged 16-25. I think most would be older. In which case they would have a licence.

But any shortfall would need to be filled by women yes.

My dh already works late shifts which he hates he's working until 11 pm tonight ,so he would just say bollocks to the licence ill stay home I bet loads of men would

Errors · 19/08/2024 19:33

Rosscameasdoody · 19/08/2024 19:19

Which impacts all those disabled people who need to use their cars for work, leisure etc, and have no alternative. Nothing is without consequence.

Yes I know, I was making a ridiculous suggestion to highlight how ridiculous the OP’s suggestion is

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 19:32

Flibflobflibflob · 19/08/2024 19:31

I’d love it, I know DH would support it too, many men recognise the threat men pose to women, it doesn’t get their backs up because they know it’s true.

Tbh I'm always the most suspicious of men who tell me how untrustworthy and threatening all men are as I suspect they're telling on themselves

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/08/2024 19:32

FiddlyDiddlyDee · 19/08/2024 19:14

I'm not sure what the difference is between this and any other form of hate speech is and I hope the people on here who are obviously radicalised are only representative of people hiding behind a screen and not the wider public.

Quite

If Andrew Tate is speaking hate speech in his vile comments on women...

So too is OP inciting hatred with her suggestion

(And if this thread gets into MRA hands then it'll be great for them. "Look fellas, women wants us locked up for just being men. See the problem?")

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:32

Againname · 19/08/2024 19:30

Sounds horrific but you can bet your bottom dollar that crime would fall, the streets and roads would be safer and women could venture out more at night.

Crime would fall? Violence in the home against women and children (and adult male relatives) would increase. A large proportion of VAWG happens in the home and behind closed doors, and what do you think the consequences will be of locking violent men in with their victims?

Also, why should innocent non violent young men be on a curfew? Why not, instead, take sensible action to tackle VAWG (and violent crime in general) by doing what I suggested in my first post on this thread - better funded and effective public services?

Yes, but DV in the home has very specific dynamics and the age group most likely to commit these crimes is not the younger cohort.

HollyKnight · 19/08/2024 19:31

Are you the poster who suggested that male fetuses should be aborted?

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 19:31

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:30

Not half the population.

Only this 16-25. The rest would have a licence.

Do you have any stats to prove this age group is most likely to be a danger to women or did you pull it out of your bum?

Flibflobflibflob · 19/08/2024 19:31

I’d love it, I know DH would support it too, many men recognise the threat men pose to women, it doesn’t get their backs up because they know it’s true.

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 19:30

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:23

Males (sex at birth) aged 16 to 25, a curfew between 8pm-5am. Exceptions for those that work during these times, which a licence could be given. Exceptions also include medical emergencies.

Those over 25-55 must gain a licence to be able to go out at night. A test to be passed to gain the licence. You must carry your licence in public if you are out. Points taken off for bad behaviour in public. Eg, drunk and disorderly. 12 points and you have your licence revoked.

No licence needed for those 55+

Sounds horrific but you can bet your bottom dollar that crime would fall, the streets and roads would be safer and women could venture out more at night.

Alternatively we could spend the time, money and resources it would take to implement all that on actually increasing rape convinctions, rather than providing rapists with one night a week when the streets will be quiet and underpoliced.

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:30

taxguru · 19/08/2024 19:29

@Swisscave

Sounds horrific but you can bet your bottom dollar that crime would fall, the streets and roads would be safer and women could venture out more at night.

What would there be to venture out for? With half the population forced to stay in their homes, places like pubs, cafes, restaurants, cinemas, theatres, etc wouldn't be viable nor would evening/late night shopping.

You've really not thought it through!

It's a bit like Covid lockdowns, sounded good in theory, but the damage was immense in other ways, i.e. economically, mental health, business closures, redundancies, etc.

Not half the population.

Only this 16-25. The rest would have a licence.

Againname · 19/08/2024 19:30

Sounds horrific but you can bet your bottom dollar that crime would fall, the streets and roads would be safer and women could venture out more at night.

Crime would fall? Violence in the home against women and children (and adult male relatives) would increase. A large proportion of VAWG happens in the home and behind closed doors, and what do you think the consequences will be of locking violent men in with their victims?

Also, why should innocent non violent young men be on a curfew? Why not, instead, take sensible action to tackle VAWG (and violent crime in general) by doing what I suggested in my first post on this thread - better funded and effective public services?

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:29

x2boys · 19/08/2024 19:28

No you don't get it both ways if you want men off the street than fine but that means women have to work all the un desirable shifts for this privilege.

I don’t think that the ‘undesirable shifts’ are mainly filled by those aged 16-25. I think most would be older. In which case they would have a licence.

But any shortfall would need to be filled by women yes.

HollyKnight · 19/08/2024 19:29

Behave. Punishing innocent men will just turn more of them against women.

SummerSplashing · 19/08/2024 19:29

It would be amazing to go out without any fear.

this isn't the solution though & to be honest, I don't think there is one.

taxguru · 19/08/2024 19:29

@Swisscave

Sounds horrific but you can bet your bottom dollar that crime would fall, the streets and roads would be safer and women could venture out more at night.

What would there be to venture out for? With half the population forced to stay in their homes, places like pubs, cafes, restaurants, cinemas, theatres, etc wouldn't be viable nor would evening/late night shopping.

You've really not thought it through!

It's a bit like Covid lockdowns, sounded good in theory, but the damage was immense in other ways, i.e. economically, mental health, business closures, redundancies, etc.

x2boys · 19/08/2024 19:28

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:23

Males (sex at birth) aged 16 to 25, a curfew between 8pm-5am. Exceptions for those that work during these times, which a licence could be given. Exceptions also include medical emergencies.

Those over 25-55 must gain a licence to be able to go out at night. A test to be passed to gain the licence. You must carry your licence in public if you are out. Points taken off for bad behaviour in public. Eg, drunk and disorderly. 12 points and you have your licence revoked.

No licence needed for those 55+

Sounds horrific but you can bet your bottom dollar that crime would fall, the streets and roads would be safer and women could venture out more at night.

No you don't get it both ways if you want men off the street than fine but that means women have to work all the un desirable shifts for this privilege.

TheGreatestAtuin · 19/08/2024 19:27

Ridiculous idea.

I walk on the street without any fear now. Day or night.

5128gap · 19/08/2024 19:27

FrippEnos · 19/08/2024 19:09

So that is a no then?

Of course if its left to the men then you are ok with them sorting out the content?

But then you run the risk of the Andrew Tate types getting in.

Its a no from me, certainly. My priorities are the safety and wellbeing of girls. Not merely because i am a woman, but also as a matter of priority. Male violence has been declared a national emergency by the police and efforts need to be targeted in that direction.
I'd be happy to contribute to the education of boys to prevent them growing up to harm women, but I don't agree that boys are facing a significant threat from girls, or men from women that requires women to divert their resources away from women towards the protection of boys.
If men disagree, there is nothing preventing them addressing the issue, and the content would be up to them.
I'm concerned that you seem to be suggesting that content would be questionable though, if created by men. I'd have liked to think there were enough decent men out there to come up with something appropriate, and compelling enough to counteract Tate. Do you really think there aren't?

samanthablues · 19/08/2024 19:26

If you look at the very depressing statistics most murdered women are killed by their partners or ex partners, plenty in their own homes. Stopping men from going out one day a week will only stop a few drunken lads from harassing a couple of girls at a club, but not much else.

Hello87abc · 19/08/2024 19:26

So basically you are saying that all men are violent?? Which is ridiculous

Jeschara · 19/08/2024 19:26

Goady, stupid and something that will never happen. Also your idea will be met with derision by the male and female population.
You sound a bit idiotic OP.
I go out at night and really dont feel afraid of men.

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InsensibleMe · 19/08/2024 19:26

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:23

Males (sex at birth) aged 16 to 25, a curfew between 8pm-5am. Exceptions for those that work during these times, which a licence could be given. Exceptions also include medical emergencies.

Those over 25-55 must gain a licence to be able to go out at night. A test to be passed to gain the licence. You must carry your licence in public if you are out. Points taken off for bad behaviour in public. Eg, drunk and disorderly. 12 points and you have your licence revoked.

No licence needed for those 55+

Sounds horrific but you can bet your bottom dollar that crime would fall, the streets and roads would be safer and women could venture out more at night.

Just castrate them at puberty. Much easier surely?

FlowerWrath · 19/08/2024 19:25

HelloMiss · 19/08/2024 19:24

What will be the punishment for breaking this little curfew?

Realistically nothing

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 19:25

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:23

Males (sex at birth) aged 16 to 25, a curfew between 8pm-5am. Exceptions for those that work during these times, which a licence could be given. Exceptions also include medical emergencies.

Those over 25-55 must gain a licence to be able to go out at night. A test to be passed to gain the licence. You must carry your licence in public if you are out. Points taken off for bad behaviour in public. Eg, drunk and disorderly. 12 points and you have your licence revoked.

No licence needed for those 55+

Sounds horrific but you can bet your bottom dollar that crime would fall, the streets and roads would be safer and women could venture out more at night.

A lucky day for rapists over 55.

On what basis in your eyes would the licence be granted? Ie how to do you propose to tell in advance who is most likely to assault a woman?

HighBuddha · 19/08/2024 19:25

Here’s a thought experiment…would you rather send your teenage daughter walking through the city alone at night if that city were:

a) populated only by women
b) populated only by men

🤔

Now obviously OPs suggestion is not workable for a number of reasons, but these posts suggesting women are just as dangerous as men are ludicrous.

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