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To suggest a male curfew one night a week

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twojumps · 19/08/2024 17:41

when women can walk free in the streets without fear?

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

I'd say every night but let's start with one.

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WolabiMe · 19/08/2024 19:42

97% of 18-24s have experienced public sexual harassment.

c.4 MILLION MEN are perpetrators of VAWG

That equates to around 14% of men being a danger to women.

I mean something dramatic has to be done. The police have said clearly this goes beyond a policing matter to solve.

To suggest a male curfew one night a week
To suggest a male curfew one night a week
FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 19:42

LiterallyOnFire · 19/08/2024 19:36

Exactly this.

We have rules against raping but they don't observe those so I doubt a curfew would stop them.

If anything a curfew is the perfect opportunity. Quieter streets, 63% of the police force stuck at home, and women lulled into a false sense of security. Someone who wants to commit a rape is already planning a crime, they're not going to think oh no I'd love to go out and rape but I can't break curfew, I might get a fine.

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:41

HollyKnight · 19/08/2024 19:40

Right. The poster doesn't seem to understand that a bad man is a bad man no matter what age he is.

That is very true, so we must do what we can to teach men how to behave and target those that won’t

LiterallyOnFire · 19/08/2024 19:41

CurlewKate · 19/08/2024 19:35

This thread is just another example of people refusing to take VAWAG seriously. All the NAMALT/women are just as violent as men/ what about violence against men-don't you care about men/I have sons-they are lovely......and so on and so on. VAWAG is a huge issue. Putting our fingers in our ears and pretending it doesn't happen is must not cutting it.

I'm the last person to put my fingers in my ears about VAWG but suggestions need to be a) effective and b) legally enforceable to be worth a moment's discussion.

This suggestion is neither effective nor legally enforceable so discussing it is a complete waste of everybody's time.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/08/2024 19:41

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:23

Males (sex at birth) aged 16 to 25, a curfew between 8pm-5am. Exceptions for those that work during these times, which a licence could be given. Exceptions also include medical emergencies.

Those over 25-55 must gain a licence to be able to go out at night. A test to be passed to gain the licence. You must carry your licence in public if you are out. Points taken off for bad behaviour in public. Eg, drunk and disorderly. 12 points and you have your licence revoked.

No licence needed for those 55+

Sounds horrific but you can bet your bottom dollar that crime would fall, the streets and roads would be safer and women could venture out more at night.

Of course
Men over 55 are completely harmless 🙄

Ignoring your transphobia

Tonight37 · 19/08/2024 19:41

This is disgusting. It’s the equivalent to picking out a group of people based on race and saying that they should be banned from the streets. I’m surprised this thread hasn’t been taken down

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:40

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 19:38

Why are you so fixated on the 16-25 age group?

Personally I wouldn't much want to encounter a group of 26 year olds who've just aged out of your curfew on the first night out they've ever been allowed to have. Carnage.

The 26 years olds would have spend ages 16-25 under a curfew and would have had to pass a test to get a licence. I would suspect they would learn how to behave in public if they wanted to keep it.

HollyKnight · 19/08/2024 19:40

x2boys · 19/08/2024 19:37

Indeed Wayne Cozens was 49 ( i think) when convicted not that far-off 55.

Right. The poster doesn't seem to understand that a bad man is a bad man no matter what age he is.

Iwasafool · 19/08/2024 19:40

twojumps · 19/08/2024 17:50

It isn't bait, actually. I'm serious. I'd like to walk at night without fear. For my DDs to go out without fear.

Something has to change. It would be a gesture and wake up call.

What do we do, nothing?

Are you all going to stay in the other six nights? Because I think that would be the next step so maybe keep your ideas under wraps or you might get more than you bargained for.

Didimum · 19/08/2024 19:39

How ridiculous. Who on earth would think men willing to break the law with violence would be willing to abide by the law of a curfew? It would also be against the civil liberties of honest and decent men.

HollyKnight · 19/08/2024 19:39

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:36

No, but less likely to cause public alarm and road traffic violations.

Why? Nothing special happens when someone turns 55. They are the same person they were at 45.

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:39

x2boys · 19/08/2024 19:37

Indeed Wayne Cozens was 49 ( i think) when convicted not that far-off 55.

Very true. But not 55.

whatisgoingonadviceplease · 19/08/2024 19:39

Also my DH is a prison officer in a male prison and most of his colleagues are male. Would the prison just be entirely staffed by females for one night only? Doesn't sound the safest for a men's prison to be dangerously understaffed by only female officers...

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 19:38

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:35

But he isnt 16-25 is he?

So would make not difference to him materially whether he continues to work the job or not

Why are you so fixated on the 16-25 age group?

Personally I wouldn't much want to encounter a group of 26 year olds who've just aged out of your curfew on the first night out they've ever been allowed to have. Carnage.

HelloMiss · 19/08/2024 19:37

Not true

I work in a men's prison with these men.

whatisgoingonadviceplease · 19/08/2024 19:37

What would single dads do? Just be stuck at home? What if their child needed to see a doctor? 🤔

x2boys · 19/08/2024 19:37

HollyKnight · 19/08/2024 19:35

@Swisscave Why do over 55s get a free pass in your fantasy? Do you think a bad man stops being a risk when he turns 55?

Indeed Wayne Cozens was 49 ( i think) when convicted not that far-off 55.

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:36

HollyKnight · 19/08/2024 19:35

@Swisscave Why do over 55s get a free pass in your fantasy? Do you think a bad man stops being a risk when he turns 55?

No, but less likely to cause public alarm and road traffic violations.

LiterallyOnFire · 19/08/2024 19:36

stayathomer · 19/08/2024 17:45

The only ones who won’t keep the curfew will be the ones to be afraid of

Exactly this.

We have rules against raping but they don't observe those so I doubt a curfew would stop them.

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 19:36

CurlewKate · 19/08/2024 19:35

This thread is just another example of people refusing to take VAWAG seriously. All the NAMALT/women are just as violent as men/ what about violence against men-don't you care about men/I have sons-they are lovely......and so on and so on. VAWAG is a huge issue. Putting our fingers in our ears and pretending it doesn't happen is must not cutting it.

No one here is pretending it doesn't happen, they're just pointing out this idea is a) unworkable and b) would do nothing to actually solve the problem anyway

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:35

x2boys · 19/08/2024 19:33

My dh already works late shifts which he hates he's working until 11 pm tonight ,so he would just say bollocks to the licence ill stay home I bet loads of men would

But he isnt 16-25 is he?

So would make not difference to him materially whether he continues to work the job or not

FlowerWrath · 19/08/2024 19:35

If all women were at home no violence would happen to women in public either

HollyKnight · 19/08/2024 19:35

@Swisscave Why do over 55s get a free pass in your fantasy? Do you think a bad man stops being a risk when he turns 55?

CurlewKate · 19/08/2024 19:35

This thread is just another example of people refusing to take VAWAG seriously. All the NAMALT/women are just as violent as men/ what about violence against men-don't you care about men/I have sons-they are lovely......and so on and so on. VAWAG is a huge issue. Putting our fingers in our ears and pretending it doesn't happen is must not cutting it.

Rosscameasdoody · 19/08/2024 19:33

Swisscave · 19/08/2024 19:23

Males (sex at birth) aged 16 to 25, a curfew between 8pm-5am. Exceptions for those that work during these times, which a licence could be given. Exceptions also include medical emergencies.

Those over 25-55 must gain a licence to be able to go out at night. A test to be passed to gain the licence. You must carry your licence in public if you are out. Points taken off for bad behaviour in public. Eg, drunk and disorderly. 12 points and you have your licence revoked.

No licence needed for those 55+

Sounds horrific but you can bet your bottom dollar that crime would fall, the streets and roads would be safer and women could venture out more at night.

Almost every dictatorship has begun with imposing a curfew on one section of society or other. Hitler did it to the Jews and look how that went. You are talking about curtailing the freedom of an entire cohort based on nothing more than ‘men are bad’. Not only that you’re advocating a points system to further curtail for bad behaviour - do you really think only men are drunk and disorderly, or otherwise badly behaved ? What’s the equivalent punishment for women behaving the same way ? Utterly ridiculous and unashamed misandry.