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To suggest a male curfew one night a week

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twojumps · 19/08/2024 17:41

when women can walk free in the streets without fear?

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

I'd say every night but let's start with one.

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Rosscameasdoody · 19/08/2024 20:10

timetodecide2345 · 19/08/2024 19:43

Didn't the Nazis do that with Jews at the start of the war?

Yep, and that went well didn’t it ? All dictatorships start with a curfew on one section or other, depending on who they see as the perpetrators of the evil blighting society - then more and more extreme punishment is introduced for perceived transgressions of the many rules and regulations which will inevitably follow the introduction of the curfew. You only have to look at some of the posts following the OP’s to know with certainty that this will happen.

What comes next is a campaign to paint the perpetrators of these evils as all out of the same mould, so that there is little public opposition to what’s happening. And before you know it we have concentration camps in the countryside and crematoria belching out the remains of the victims into the air. Sound far fetched ? It did during the Second World War too. Even Roosevelt didn’t believe what was happening until he saw the evidence. This thread is dreadful and should be deleted.

Againname · 19/08/2024 20:09

Those posters who are saying the OP’s idea is unkind to men, unworkable, doesn’t take account of domestic violence at home, etc etc are ignoring the fact that woman CANNOT walk alone safely in the same way that men can.

Why is DV being dismissed? It's one of the biggest risks for women when it comes to VAWG. Often higher risk than stranger attack.

(It's also true that male violence against men is important to tackle too. I'm not a man, and I actually know women who've been victims of VAWG both from strangers and DV, but I still think all violence needs to be tackled - in sensible and effective ways).

This thread highlights one of the reasons why DV is such a big problem. Too many subconscious victim blaming attitudes that "those women aren't like me" and "DV isn't as serious" as stranger attack.

Ideas like curfews for all men, including non violent innocent men, don't help (and would probably make things worse due to increasing resentment and division, as well as increase DV incidents).

What would help is tackling root causes of increased breakdown in society and increased violent crime. That requires tackling poverty and the lack of well-funded (and good) public services.

Jacopo · 19/08/2024 20:09

Stoptherideiwanttogetoff24 · 19/08/2024 19:44

My son was mugged in a really violent and traumatic way when at uni. Destroyed his mental health for a long time.

mugged by a woman ? Or a man?
But I hope he has recovered now.

Iwasafool · 19/08/2024 20:07

HighBuddha · 19/08/2024 20:04

It’s due to all of those violent women roaming the streets at night.

When my DD was in sixth form they had a visit from the police warning girls that the number of broken glass/broken bottle attacks by women on other women were very high and they were shown photos of young women who needed plastic surgery to repair the damage. This was happening in the local nightclubs. They were advised to avoid women who were being aggressive/picking fights.

Shinyandnew1 · 19/08/2024 20:07

So, whilst all the men have to be inside at night, who will be patrolling the streets checking they aren’t out?

5128gap · 19/08/2024 20:06

MintyNew · 19/08/2024 20:02

@Everyoneesleistheproblem what do you think the nice men should do about it?
I find that absolutely ridiculous that decent good men need to fight the battle for those rotten ones. What exactly do you think they should do? Provide some realistic example?

Men are in charge. They're over represented in government, the judiciary, the police, at the highest levels of pretty much every single thing you can name, in every country in the world. They have power. Lots and lots of it. If they wanted to control this allegedly tiny minority that's hurting women, they could.

dawngreen · 19/08/2024 20:05

Always going to be people who ignore it. And it gives people a false sense of security. If some people would not wear masks for covid, I doubt they would stay in .

mytuppennyworth · 19/08/2024 20:05

arethereanyleftatall · 19/08/2024 17:44

Can you imagine how utterly lovely it would be. It would be bliss for most women.

Completely unenforceable though! All the baddies would rub their hands in glee at all the women out there with no protection!

Presumably no males could work anywhere that required them getting home over the curfew too? No police, fire brigade, bar workers, bouncers, waiters.

women would attack more women. That is what happens.

Mumoftwochildrenand6furkids · 19/08/2024 20:04

No its an ridiculous idea, I have an partner, brothers and other male family members who would not hurt an fly not to mention when i used to go night clubbing, I sew plenty of fights between women and last year my mate had an bottle smashed over her head by an female who was an stranger to her so what you want the whole country to get an curfew and what about all our Emergency workers and night staff, I dont think you have thought this through.

HighBuddha · 19/08/2024 20:04

noworklifebalance · 19/08/2024 20:00

What is fucking appalling is that you had to learn to handle yourself at night at all - why is that even considered normal or ok?

It’s due to all of those violent women roaming the streets at night.

GenghisCalm · 19/08/2024 20:03

twojumps · 19/08/2024 17:41

when women can walk free in the streets without fear?

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

I'd say every night but let's start with one.

So the men that go out to rape and pray on vulnerable women are going to be deterred by a fucking curfew?

So what will be the punishment for a man being out after curfew? Will it be more than the sentence for rape or murder?

For the millions of men who walk the streets who are not a risk to women this is offensive and discriminatory, but for the few that are a risk will not give two hoots about a curfew.

In all honesty if there was a curfew for men one day a week where women could wander around without any worries this would be the day that there are more attacks on women, both in their own homes and also out on the streets it would be akin to shooting fish in a barrel.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 19/08/2024 20:02

I don’t want my son, brothers & DH being assumed as abusers. Let’s just adopt a zero tolerance approach to dangerous males and rethink the justice system.

MintyNew · 19/08/2024 20:02

@Everyoneesleistheproblem what do you think the nice men should do about it?
I find that absolutely ridiculous that decent good men need to fight the battle for those rotten ones. What exactly do you think they should do? Provide some realistic example?

x2boys · 19/08/2024 20:01

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 19/08/2024 19:59

You think Nuns are safe from male violence?

Tbf the nuns that taught me were pretty fucking violent themselves .

Tonight37 · 19/08/2024 20:01

twojumps · 19/08/2024 17:41

when women can walk free in the streets without fear?

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

I'd say every night but let's start with one.

I’ve reported this thread for sex discrimination and hope it gets taken down.

noworklifebalance · 19/08/2024 20:00

Crazycatlady79 · 19/08/2024 18:09

I've never gone out at night and felt afraid of the possible threat of male violence, as learnt to handle myself at a young age, but I can appreciate that it must be daunting for some women.
Your idea is fucking stupid, though, as it solves nothing.

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What is fucking appalling is that you had to learn to handle yourself at night at all - why is that even considered normal or ok?

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 19/08/2024 19:59

listsandbudgets · 19/08/2024 19:52

I'm much happier if I know my DD is out with a mixed group of friends.

I do not want my son tarnished eoth the "nasty" brush.

If you're that keen segregating the sexes OP then join a convent

You think Nuns are safe from male violence?

Everyoneesleistheproblem · 19/08/2024 19:58

MintyNew · 19/08/2024 19:53

Yes sorry if you've had bad experiences or know horrible men but there's no need to group all men in the same way.

So why aren't the nice men doing more?
The endless conflicts around the world aren't wars started by women. We still think of wars as good guys against bad guys, whilst the women and children on either side have no choice but to go along with whichever side they find themselves.

MintyNew · 19/08/2024 19:57

Op I hope you don't have a father, son , husband or brother. They are all awful and evil so hopefully you have no men in your life.

whatisgoingonadviceplease · 19/08/2024 19:57

@nocoolnamesleft
My DH's female colleagues would feel the exact opposite of safe working a night shift in a dangerously understaffed male prison with only female colleagues (and not enough of them either). Which is exactly what the situation would be if my DH and his male colleagues weren't permitted to go to their jobs.

HelpAGirlOut1234 · 19/08/2024 19:57

Crazycatlady79 · 19/08/2024 18:09

I've never gone out at night and felt afraid of the possible threat of male violence, as learnt to handle myself at a young age, but I can appreciate that it must be daunting for some women.
Your idea is fucking stupid, though, as it solves nothing.

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How exactly did you 'learn to handle yourself at a young age'? There's sometimes no handling yourself against a man that is bigger and more powerful than you.

Alucard55 · 19/08/2024 19:56

MintyNew · 19/08/2024 19:53

Yes sorry if you've had bad experiences or know horrible men but there's no need to group all men in the same way.

The point is we can't tell the decent and good men from the predators just by looking at them. Every sexual predator and murderer is someone's son/husband/father/brother.

Jacopo · 19/08/2024 19:55

I can’t believe the naïveté of some posters saying that all we have to do is raise our sons in the right way. Near me there lived a son who was raised by a social worker who specialised in mental health care. As a teenager this boy stabbed a female stranger to death in a frenzied attack. Many years later he was released from prison on temporary licence into the care of his mother. Within days he attacked a random female who was walking her dog and bludgeoned her almost to death.
Those posters who are saying the OP’s idea is unkind to men, unworkable, doesn’t take account of domestic violence at home, etc etc are ignoring the fact that woman CANNOT walk alone safely in the same way that men can. And actually a night time curfew isn’t enough. The attacks I describe above took place in broad daylight.
As has been said many times before, women have no idea how much some men hate them.

noworklifebalance · 19/08/2024 19:55

HollyKnight · 19/08/2024 19:53

Not all men are stupid though right? There are good ones out there. They should be role models and teach the others. They should hold other men accountable for their actions. They should be raising their sons to be good people.

Quite and this is where “it’s about ALL men” comes in.

Nothing to with men not being human or sweeping generalisations that PPs are getting worked up about

Samcro · 19/08/2024 19:55

HelloMiss · 19/08/2024 19:24

What will be the punishment for breaking this little curfew?

There won’t be one, as there won’t be enough police to police it as all the male officers will be at home.