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To suggest a male curfew one night a week

786 replies

twojumps · 19/08/2024 17:41

when women can walk free in the streets without fear?

Yes, violence still happens in homes and behind closed doors but what a powerful message it would send.

I'd say every night but let's start with one.

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Backtothedungeon · 19/08/2024 21:02

So one night a week, you want to make women do all the work? Make all female police officers, fire fighters, paramedics, doctors, etc work an extra shift, while all the men sit at home relaxing. I don't think that will help anyone really will it?

HighBuddha · 19/08/2024 21:01

Differentstarts · 19/08/2024 20:54

Can you show me proof that it's 97% because when you Google it the results are very different

ONS - Office for National Statistics

CSEW - Crime Survey for England and Wales

x2boys · 19/08/2024 21:00

Rosscameasdoody · 19/08/2024 20:57

It was women too. The lockdown parties in government buildings all included women. The press secretary at the time was a woman as I recall, and she had to resign because she was filmed during those parties making derogatory comments about the general public.

Not to mention the endless threads on here Started by posters saying they were refusing to follow the " rules" most of whom were women.

Rosscameasdoody · 19/08/2024 21:00

WolabiMe · 19/08/2024 20:55

Prejudice - assuming all men are rapists

@CoralReader who on earth on this thread has said they assume all men are rapists?! This is about women feeling safe from the minority of men that commit 97% of the crime against them.

Surely you mean the 15% of men who commit violence against women. There’s nothing to support men committing 97% of crimes against women.

user1492771818 · 19/08/2024 21:00

Maybe you could fit men with collars with a bell on so they can't sneak up on anyone.

Omlettes · 19/08/2024 20:58

WolabiMe · 19/08/2024 20:53

@FiddlyDiddlyDee I’ve reported your post as it’s racist

Pat yourself on the head...

Sunnybow94 · 19/08/2024 20:58

Extremely sexist. I can’t believe this hasn’t been pulled already. What about the male police officers working that night, the doctors and nurses. If this was a post banning any other demographic from the streets this thread would have been pulled already.

Rosscameasdoody · 19/08/2024 20:57

LlynTegid · 19/08/2024 20:45

Now who was it who paid no attention to Covid restrictions and organised parties- men.

Do you really think given the exceptionalist attitudes of many men (and women) to any set of rules, a curfew would actually be followed? Never mind the impact as has been noted of angry men at home.

It was women too. The lockdown parties in government buildings all included women. The press secretary at the time was a woman as I recall, and she had to resign because she was filmed during those parties making derogatory comments about the general public.

Differentstarts · 19/08/2024 20:56

WolabiMe · 19/08/2024 20:55

Prejudice - assuming all men are rapists

@CoralReader who on earth on this thread has said they assume all men are rapists?! This is about women feeling safe from the minority of men that commit 97% of the crime against them.

You keep saying 97% where are you getting this number

WolabiMe · 19/08/2024 20:55

Prejudice - assuming all men are rapists

@CoralReader who on earth on this thread has said they assume all men are rapists?! This is about women feeling safe from the minority of men that commit 97% of the crime against them.

FiddlyDiddlyDee · 19/08/2024 20:54

WolabiMe · 19/08/2024 20:53

@FiddlyDiddlyDee I’ve reported your post as it’s racist

Made me laugh. You've really gone down the rabbit hole of hatred haven't you.

Differentstarts · 19/08/2024 20:54

WolabiMe · 19/08/2024 20:47

And what is the percentage of women who are committing violent crimes

@Differentstarts well if 97% is committed by men then you minus that from 100% and get 3% 🤫

Can you show me proof that it's 97% because when you Google it the results are very different

Omlettes · 19/08/2024 20:53

Uglyandgrumpy · 19/08/2024 20:45

I'm a bloke, I've a wife, 2 sons and a teenage daughter. This is the best suggestion ever, you can have the shopping centres to yourself, can go out partying till late, have a couple too many drinks and I'd be restful and relaxed my girls would get home safely. I'll be happy at home to know the females out there can enjoy themselves once a week without fear of spiked drinks and dodgy blokes. My vote is yanbu all day long.

Thats good to hear, and a good topic to bring up with your mates,
because we have to start thinking outside the box, the situation is obscene.

I want to walk free at night. Ive been held at knife point and twice avoided gang rape by the skin of my teeth.
Im in the last half of my life, I want some fucking freedom of movement ffs!
Im not lashing out at you, but you can havehave no idea the constant impact of fear and constraint on every aspect of life, every single one.

"Millions of men in England and Wales pose a danger to women and children, the commissioner of the Metropolitan police has said.
Sir Mark Rowley said the figures were “eye-watering” and an “inconvenient truth” as he called for a much bigger effort, a national strategy and more money to tackle the problem.'

https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jun/04/met-chief-says-millions-of-men-are-danger-to-women-and-girls-in-england-and-wales

Met chief says millions of men are danger to women and girls in England and Wales

National strategy beyond policing and criminal justice system needed to tackle problem, Sir Mark Rowley says

https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jun/04/met-chief-says-millions-of-men-are-danger-to-women-and-girls-in-england-and-wales

WolabiMe · 19/08/2024 20:53

@FiddlyDiddlyDee I’ve reported your post as it’s racist

Deipara · 19/08/2024 20:53

HighBuddha · 19/08/2024 20:50

Of course men should challenge male problematic behaviour. If they don’t, what is the message that is being sent? How is that at all controversial?

That's not what the poster said. Poster said all men are part of the problem. Which is simply not true.

FiddlyDiddlyDee · 19/08/2024 20:52

HighBuddha · 19/08/2024 20:50

Of course men should challenge male problematic behaviour. If they don’t, what is the message that is being sent? How is that at all controversial?

60 year old with severe arthritis calling out roided 20 something bodybuilder kind of thing?

JuicyBlueberry · 19/08/2024 20:51

It's not feasible and unjust to all the decent men out there.

How would you police it anyway, seeing as the majority of police officers are still male. Wouldn't some just put on women's clothing and/or identify as a woman. After all, it would be classed as bigotry, possibly a hate crime, to deny their gender identity. How would it work. Would you have roaming female police going around using stop and search to obtain cheek swabs for chromosome testing, patting down people for the presence of dick and balls. What about DSD individuals.

On a side note, you can say what you want about Mumsnet but at least you can use the word rape/rapist/etc. when actually talking about it seriously, without getting banned or having your post removed. So much of the internet you have to say R worded and even that's often not tolerated. It's fucking ridiculous for so many reasons. Rape doesn't cease to be a problem if you censor the word.

CoralReader · 19/08/2024 20:51

WolabiMe · 19/08/2024 20:49

Because it's not discussing it. People are saying all males should have a curfew that's sexist.

how? Sexism is prejudice or discrimination towards somebody based on their sex. Nobody is doing either of those things.

Prejudice - assuming all men are rapists
discrimination - not letting men leave the house, but letting women

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 20:50

Differentstarts · 19/08/2024 20:49

So what happens when your daughter gets hurt and hospitals are closed because their isn't enough staff because the men are at home what happens if a woman attacks her but their isn't enough police officers because the men are at home.

Or when your daughter loses her bus pass and calls you for a lift and you're not legally allowed to go and help her?

Rosscameasdoody · 19/08/2024 20:50

WolabiMe · 19/08/2024 20:36

The op and anyone who agrees with her. How would people react if someone put the same post up about race instead of sex. Would that be acceptable

but we’re not talking about race. We’re talking about VAWG and tactics to help reduce it. I still would like to see just one quote that suggests anyone on this thread ‘hates all men’ or even ‘blames all men.’

I’d say that prize would go to the poster who advocated for locking men up until the age of 25 when they had earned a ‘licence’ which would be subject to penalty points and revocation for bad behaviour. The whole thread reeks of blaming all men.

HighBuddha · 19/08/2024 20:50

Deipara · 19/08/2024 20:41

Extra onions wrote:-
"Men need to own the behaviour of thier sex, and acknowledge that they are part of the problem"

There's a post that blames all men. According to that poster all men are part of the problem.

Of course men should challenge male problematic behaviour. If they don’t, what is the message that is being sent? How is that at all controversial?

x2boys · 19/08/2024 20:50

Uglyandgrumpy · 19/08/2024 20:45

I'm a bloke, I've a wife, 2 sons and a teenage daughter. This is the best suggestion ever, you can have the shopping centres to yourself, can go out partying till late, have a couple too many drinks and I'd be restful and relaxed my girls would get home safely. I'll be happy at home to know the females out there can enjoy themselves once a week without fear of spiked drinks and dodgy blokes. My vote is yanbu all day long.

What about if your daughters needed urgent medical attention ,but couldn't get it as there were only female staff on duty so not enough staff , or your house caught fire and there were not enough female fire officers to put it out
Or if your daughters couldn't get a taxi or bus home because most drivers are male and at home?

CoralReader · 19/08/2024 20:50

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 20:49

My vote is that men who refer to women as "females" sound like Ferengi and we don't really need for them to rock up and tell us what we should want and what is good for us.

I guarantee you he is not a man though

WolabiMe · 19/08/2024 20:49

Because it's not discussing it. People are saying all males should have a curfew that's sexist.

how? Sexism is prejudice or discrimination towards somebody based on their sex. Nobody is doing either of those things.

Differentstarts · 19/08/2024 20:49

Uglyandgrumpy · 19/08/2024 20:45

I'm a bloke, I've a wife, 2 sons and a teenage daughter. This is the best suggestion ever, you can have the shopping centres to yourself, can go out partying till late, have a couple too many drinks and I'd be restful and relaxed my girls would get home safely. I'll be happy at home to know the females out there can enjoy themselves once a week without fear of spiked drinks and dodgy blokes. My vote is yanbu all day long.

So what happens when your daughter gets hurt and hospitals are closed because their isn't enough staff because the men are at home what happens if a woman attacks her but their isn't enough police officers because the men are at home.