To suggest a male curfew one night a week

It's going to be a punishment for everyone ,with not enough Dr,s Nurses ,police ,Bus/Taxi drivers because hmen have to stay at home.

Yes I agree, humbly. I worry each time my "girls" go out, because of men. I'm sorry. I know it's a few but it is real

I had this conversation with someone DH's other day. My preference would be for female only towns housing estates where only women and children could live. Totally impractical as how would you ever enforce it, but it would be nice. Totally sick of males dominating space and the amount of noise they make.

While I appreciate the sentiment of the idea and the utter irrefutable need for change, I'm not sure this would have the desired effect of making men think. I think, if anything, it could add fuel to the fire of incels and misogynists.

I am SO glad that majority on this thread think it's a stupid idea

But where has the OP gone???

@Differentstarts we’re not taking about violent crime, which is a myriad of things. We’re talking specifically VAWG.

This wouldn’t end, or even reduce, male violence. Violent men aren’t prevented from abusing their victims by lack of opportunities to find women on the street. And think of all those poor women trapped at home with an abusive partner who is prevented from going out by a curfew and only has her to vent his rage on.

And then think of the way this would be twisted. A curfew wouldn’t do anything to resolve things like victim blaming, so if a woman was assaulted on a non-curfew night how many people would say ‘what was she doing out anyway? She should have waited for curfew to go for a walk at 10pm’. How many women would start to limit their own activities on non-curfew nights for fear of being blamed for something happening while they were out with men around?

The real solution is much harder, broader and deeper. It’s a start that Labour have announced that misogyny is going to be treated as a form of extremism going forward; we need to tackle the insidious influence of people like Andrew Tate. We need comprehensive education in schools on the VAWAG epidemic and how boys and men can prevent it. We need police reform so that survivors are believed and conviction rates improved.

It wouldn't reduce it. It would increase it. Because the violent men would be even angrier, and much more likely want to 'punish' women for this curfew. Then they'll have six days a week to go out and take out their anger on their targets.

Seriously, I used to think that mumsnetters were generally relatively intelligent and professional people. But there's previous little thought or logic involved in many responses on this thread.

Exactly I'd feel so unsafe without men on the streets because their the ones who usually step in and protect women when needed. If their was a curfew all the good ones would follow it and all the criminals wouldn't

What percentage of that 80 % of male crime is committed against women and what percentage is committed against men?

Do you have the numbers on sexual violence?

Well exactly they are not going to think I'll just have to suppress my Urge to violently attack and rape a women until tomorrow

You could go on and on with different statistics for different demographics but fortunately, in this society, we don’t punish a whole group of people because of the actions of a few

why is everyone seeing this as a punishment for men rather than something that is enabling women to be safer? It’s weird. No-one has suggested it’s a punishment

Do you not remember all the people taking the piss with covid lockdowns!?

a rapist is not going to think “oh, it’s Tuesday, can’t go out on the prowl tonight!”

@5128gap

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So, whilst all the men have to be inside at night, who will be patrolling the streets checking they aren’t out?

Men with a special government issued lanyard, and a high viz jacket with 'keyworker' on the back?

How would the recruitment of these men work? How would they be vetted ? Same way as police officers are?

Honestly I was thinking of banning all 18-25 year olds from going out Saturday night because they’re more likely to clog up a&e. You could go on and on with different statistics for different demographics but fortunately, in this society, we don’t punish a whole group of people because of the actions of a few.

Nope, you either get the whole curfew or nothing.
You don't get to choose.

More men are victims of violent crime in England and Wales but actually commiting violent crimes is about 80% men 20% women it obviously differs year to year slightly

What percentage of sexual violent crimes are committed by men?

So you are quite happy to to leave it to men but unhappy with the men that will end up doing the training.
You either have both sexes help in teaching both sexes or you will end up with the Andrew Tate types getting in.

What numbers are you getting?

@nocoolnamesleft

Ridiculous!

You are deluded..

Againname

Poorly funded, ineffective, and insufficient public services cause and increase the the breakdown in society and community safety and cohesion, and crime goes up. Affecting both women and men.

Tackling this (by doing the things I listed in my previous post) would reduce VAWG both from strangers and in the home, but also male violence against men.

And yet the person that I was responding was quite happy for brothers, husbands and fathers to go and sort these violent men out.
Violence begets violence.

just be careful not to back that up with valid statistics or someone will make a total joke out of racism once you blow a hole in their argument.

Just so impractical.

The tube wouldn’t run without men, for example. Plenty of petrol stations would need to shut. All sorts of stuff. Airports, planes etc. A&E.

My dh often has to visit places hours away for work. So he’d not be able to come home if you banned men from the streets for an evening.

I don’t know what the answer is. But I do appreciate that women and girls aren’t safe on the streets. I am a woman and have a dd.

Can you show a link because that's not what I'm seeing on their