To suggest a male curfew one night a week

You can't restrict people's generally freedom of movement on the basis of their sex. Jeez.

Wow you seem utterly determined to maintain the status quo no matter what, or to sidestep all the successful efforts that have been done to curtail it.
Nothing stops change as much as people like you.

Your posts are no different in tone than those that vehmently deny that diet and lifestyle changes will make them less obese.

Those who want everyone to sink with them, or
are justfying themselves...

I agree that something needs to be done OP and increasing violence is a worry. Your suggestion of a curfew isn't the answer - it would be unhelpful and divisive, cause resentment, and increase the risk especially with DV. However I'm guessing you posted the thread because you're scared, which I understand especially if you perhaps live in an area with high crime, and although it's not the answer the issues and solutions do need to be tackled.

I don't think everyone thinks about the far reaching consequences, indirect as well as direct, of failing or insufficient public services and poverty. Society breaks down, crime including violence goes up, communities are less cohesive and less safe.

There's been false economy approach for too long. Violence needs to be tackled holistically and not on the cheap (it saves money longer term for anyone thinking it's unaffordable, because crime costs society heavily including financially).

With DV, there's lots of threads on MN highlighting some of the needs. More social housing, more refuge spaces, for example.

With VAWG (and violent crime in general) public services are often threadbare, poorly funded and with poorly trained or overwhelmed staff, just papering over cracks instead of providing timely and effective help. This includes social services, mental health services and the NHS in general, substance issue services, probation services, CJS and police, punitive benefits system, youth and mentoring services, and a lack of job, education and training opportunities.

Self imposed restricts where men aren't even allowed to walk down the same street as a woman without being treated as a threat.

No one has been able to address the fact a curfew would only lead to an increase in disgruntled men wanting to blame women for their issues. Nor the fact that it would trap victims with their abusers.

Once again, "all women" aren't restricted. Some chose to restrict themselves because they feel threatened. But plenty of women don't.

And this wouldn't stop women being hurt or abused. Women would still attack women. And then lesbians and bisexual women would become the target for the perpetually anxious as they would need a different group to blame for their anxieties and unease when out and about.

Also, it's well known that as under-charged Male on female sexual abuse is, it's even worse when it comes to female on male abuse. Because men don't feel able to report or aren't taken seriously when they do report. So statistics are somewhat skewed anyway.

I'd like to know this to as I'm certainly not restricted

@nocoolnamesleft
Currently all women face restrictions for the actions of some men

All women?? All?

What restrictions are you even talking about??

Your absolutely right I don't understand sexist people at all

Yes Yes Yes I know about violence at home thank you very much, already adressed that.
I disagree, if a curfew for women after Everard is called for, and a virtual curfew for women enacted during the Yorkshire ripper, then yes dammit I too call for a curfew on men.
Sick of the reasonable doormat approach, that you never hear from men.

I'm sorry if I missed your suggestions regarding DV. I'm skimming through this thread. So perhaps I'm being unfair as I haven't seen all your posts, but the one I'm quoting comes across as appallingly dismissive of DV. As if those women (who make up a large proportion of VAWG victims) don't matter as much as victims of stranger violence.

Again I apologise if I'm missing something you've said previously but it implies a sort of victim blaming attitude towards victims of DV. I don't see how being concerned for all victims of VAWG (and actually male victims too) is a "doormat approach"?

The high profile cases you mention made the news precisely because they're less common than domestic homicide. It's worth remembering that 3 women a week are killed by someone they know, usually a partner or ex partner - and usually when it's domestic homicide it happens in the home.

A curfew like the one suggested by OP is not only unhelpful, unfair on innocent men, and divisive (so would cause resentment) but it would also increase the risk of violence for DV victims.

Knee jerk gimmicks aren't what we need. We need helpful, effective and holistic actions. I've posted about what would help in my previous posts.

I don't think you're getting the point so we'll leave it there.

Literalism is a recent disease of the English, we caught it from across the pond😂

It is and i can't believe mumsnet is allowing it

Yes Yes Yes I know about violence at home thank you very much, already adressed that.
I disagree, if a curfew for women after Everard is called for, and a virtual curfew for women enacted during the Yorkshire ripper, then yes dammit I too call for a curfew on men.
Sick of the reasonable doormat approach, that you never hear from men.

I'm from a very male family and iv been arrested more times then any of them put together (I'm female)

You also can't tell that by looking at women so we have to be mindful use our senses, trust our gut and realise most people are good

Ha, spend an evening in my town centre. The women there are scary (as in drug addicts etc). I would still feel unsafe if no men were around.

I wasn't being serious. I thought the lanyard part was ridiculous enough to show I was being absurd. However given this is a thread of rather extreme suggestions, perhaps I should have anticipated I'd be taken seriously. No, I don't really think we could impose a curfew in this way. I don't think we should impose one at all.

How is this not sexist? Asking for a friend…

Usually how it works on MN tbh
If you don't follow the "sisterhood" you're a man 🙄

Covid lockdowns were the ONLY time I felt unsafe out by myself in the evening - it was like all the people who followed rules were at home and the local park (and town centre) got a lot more creepy.
If I get a rare evening out now, I would quite like it to be with my husband or male friends /mixed group rather than have the OP deciding that I can only meet females friends on Wednesdays. Sorry, no badminton /running /whatever club for you, it's curfew day. A lot of women would suddenly be under effective curfew too and obviously no point businesses being open that night, so nowhere to go

I've never once said all men are sexual predators. My point is we can't tell the difference between the good decent men and the sexual predators just by looking.

Absolutely but saying all men is wrong

Anyway I think we can agree that men are the more violent sex.

I'm sorry to hear that. I think every woman has her own experiences and degrees of male violence and inappropriate behavior. I'm not terrified to be outside but I am sick of entitled men and their actions.

Violence is a disease of the human species, but according to you, it's a choice

I read your post like Trump suggesting people inject bleach into themselves to cure Covid.

Unless you're a prominent scientist working in this field, your opinion isn't really worth much, and I doubt one would think they have any solutions either.

Lack of self awareness is another disease of the human species by the way.