To suggest a male curfew one night a week

Depending on the day, in our local pub it would be a 95% reduction of the clientele for a certain day every week.

Or for young women to stop selling their company.

You don't need a curfew for that @@FrippEnos All you need to do is stop trying to buy young women's company, and get over the idea that the way to get sex is to buy them drinks. Problem (if it even is one) solved.

It would be interesting to see who some of the young "ladies" would cadge drinks off, and whether they would spend their own money.

After taking decades upon decades to even be allowed to vote and get equal pay you think they'll let us curfew them. Not a chance. 😂

It's totally unworkable because men will just say no.

But equally they could adjust for half numbers as much as "twice as busy" like bank holidays or roasts on Sundays. Unless you live in a urban metropolis most places close a day or two a week as it is. If cufew night was one of those it would make sod all difference.

Why would there be not enough demand for pubs, clubs, restaurant's and cinemas? Do you hever go out without a man!

No men allowed at all would potentially be HALF their clientele for a certain day every week

If women are having to pick up male shifts as well then the client base is even more limited

And so do mothers raising sons. That’s where it starts. It’ll take a while to feed in, but the message should be women are not playthings, punchbags, or there for the convenience or comfort of men. Women are equal in every way and no means no every single time.

I'd have probably said the same before 2020, but its been proven how much freedom people will sacrifice to benefit others. Although perhaps when the others are women and the ones being asked to sacrifice are men, it would be different. However we'll never know.
The majority of the people it's designed to benefit are very unlikely to be supportive of it and that's the strongest disincentive. We can't start imposing things most women don't want against their wishes because a few think it would be for their good. Otherwise we are swapping one form of subjugation for another.

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Clearly it's never going to be a thing but it's worth thinking about.

Why would there be not enough demand for pubs, clubs, restaurant's and cinemas? Do you hever go out without a man!

It's interesting to imagine how easy, going out becomes when you take out male gaze and violence. If this once a week was the norm, how long before women realised it shouldn't matter how hot/young they are but rather how they project themselves.
How long before "hard" women are a thing and what happens to those women when men are back in charge.

They are why it's unworkable

Not enough staff, not enough viability for venues to open or operate when they lose potentially half or more of their clientelle, managing just WHY a male is out and about...

If they're still allowed out to work then they'll still be there as a threat (and we know Police Officers and Taxi Drivers for example aren't "safe") which would defeat the point. And would just create resentment and anger in the men who don't work in industries which allow them out and about. They wouldn't settle down the way you seem to think.

All this thread has demonstrated is that a lot of humans want to control others.

It is like the psychology experiment where half the subjects were assigned to be prison guards and the other half prisoners. Within days, the prison guards turned into bullies and the prisoners became supplicants.

I don’t think a matriarchal society would be any better than a patriarchal one.

After the initial flutter of outrage

This sentence doing some heavy lifting.

None of your points support it being unworkable. Undesirable, but not unworkable. It's being discussed because someone started a thread about it? Don't worry I don't think its because there's been a leaked memo it's on the cards or anything.

Ah yes
Lock down
Where businesses collapsed due to not being able to operate at full capacity
And people just did as they were told
And people with legit reasons to be out weren't targeted by mob mentality...

All those clubs, pubs, restaurants, cinemas and theatres wouldn't be open. There wouldn't be enough demand. They would also not be "male free" unless you expected women to have to take on all the extra shifts.

I'm not sure about the "convinced" either... sounds a bit brainwash-y....

Provision would also have to be made for medical emergencies.

And what about women who's husbands/dads/brothers/sons/partners drive them to and from work or nights out? Should they have to fork out more money to have to catch public transport?

It is unworkable, why has been discussed at length now

Those are reasons why its unethical not unworkable.

It’s totally unworkable. And for one reason. It’s the absolute opposite of democracy and is the start of the slippery slope to dictatorship. What next ? Curfews on disabled people because they walk too slowly, or wheelchairs are a nuisance ? Curfews on different races or religions on different days ? If you think that’s extreme look at the the events leading up to the holocaust.

It would be entirely workable, as has been demonstrated by lockdown. There would be provisions made so that those who had to work could go there and back, but only for those reasons. There would be fines for breaking curfew. As with lockdown there would be plenty of members of the public willing to act as prefects to report those breaking it. It wouldnt stop them all, but would make them visible and easier to apprehend. After the initial flutter of outrage, most men would settle to it and adapt. Particularly if the well intentioned were brought on board and convinced they were helping women. As we all were in Covid to help 'the vulnerable'. Many would come to see it as their heroic contribution to helping women be safer. Few go out every night, so they would make curfew the night they didn't. Media would take advantage and screen male centred entertainment etc. Meanwhile, while women obviously wouldn't be assured of not setting eyes on a man, they would know that pubs, cinemas, clubs, theatres etc would be free of men and their presence on public transport greatly reduced. To be clear, I don't support it for various reasons. But the idea its 'unworkable' isn't one of them.

Good point. The vast majority of women are not attacked by strangers on the street.

Ironically, we'd probably see a greater decline in violence against men. Violence against women might actually rise as most of it happens at home. The abusive partner would be drinking at home rather than in the pub.

Lol, you think the men who are evil enough to hurt women will be put off by a curfew because "oh i musnt break the rules"? They're not kids on supernanny. How naive.

Tbf, people often complain about things done by a small minority of men. Like when they complain about femicide (which 99.99% of men don't commit) but then get annoyed when people say they don't know any men that do this.

I think it's more of a thought experiment to highlight the issue more than a real suggestion.

As a thought experiment it's interesting and sheds light on the issues women face moving around in the dark.

As an actual suggestion, it's immoral, unworkable and totally bonkers.

Exactly, how does that even work?
Places relying on shift workers would be screwed.