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To think that they had no self-awareness? (It's a child-free wedding one)

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Daisyoopsies · 19/08/2024 11:03

One of my close relatives got married last year. It was child free but I was breastfeeding. I asked him if husband could bring baby to venue car park so I could breastfeed and then take baby away again during the day (it was in the middle of no-where) so that I could still attend and he said no because it was unfair on other guests. Fair enough. We decided to decline.

They've just had a baby and got invite to a child-free wedding and BROUGHT THE BABY ANYWAY and are now appalled that they were asked to leave.

Do people have no self-awareness? Do people just not care about things until it affects them?

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OopsyDaisie · 19/08/2024 15:07

Hypocrisy runs wild!
But I cannot get my head around: they said NO to bringing a baby to the CAR PARK??? Why would thay be special treatment? That makes no sense!
I wouldn't even have asked them, unless they had to give your husband some sort of guest pass to access the car park? Otherwise would just have thought me going to the car park to BF would be the same as me having gone to the toilet for few minutes?

ZoeCM · 19/08/2024 15:05

queenMab99 · 19/08/2024 12:33

I was not allowed to take my 3 month old to my brother in laws wedding, it wasn't a child free wedding and they weren't worried about noise, it was that he was a new baby, and the bride was worried that guests might be more interested in him than her. I was flabbergasted that anyone would admit to being jealous of a tiny baby. This was 50 years ago and I have been divorced from their brother for 30 years. (I don't hold a grudge.......much!)

I've seen similar threads on here - grown women admitting they don't want a baby at their wedding because they're worried he/she'll take attention away from them! It's bewildering. Do people genuinely believe all the guests at their wedding are going to be 100% focused on them for the entire day? Weddings last for ages.

Figgygal · 19/08/2024 15:03

Oh the audacity of them thinking rules didn't apply to them - karma indeed

Thereislightattheendofthetunnel · 19/08/2024 15:00

Karma at its finest. Love it

Beebop1784 · 19/08/2024 14:59

So many of these stories on Mumsnet sound like absolute fabrication

AllTheChaos · 19/08/2024 14:56

Borninabarn32 · 19/08/2024 11:09

Please tell me you reminded them how they treated you?!

When SIL was towards the end of her pregnancy she put a rant on fb about people asking if baby was here yet etc. I sent her screenshots of all the messages she sent me not a year prior doing the same thing to me.

People without children genuinely have no idea.

Oooh, what was her response?!

GeorgesMarvelousCalpol · 19/08/2024 14:55

CheeseWisely · 19/08/2024 14:29

Yes I think a lot of people just have absolutely zero self-awareness.

Recently Friend A was telling me about the wedding of a mutual friend that she'd been to; we'd been invited but couldn't attend.

Friend A complained that the ceremony had been too long at 90 minutes, and that she'd had to stand in heels throughout, as she was a member of the wedding party.

Friend A's own wedding ceremony was also 90 minutes long, and there weren't enough seats for all the guests (oh and it was Central Europe in early July so near on 40 degrees without a breath of cool air to be had).

It took everything I had not to blurt out 'sounds very similar to yours, but much cooler!'

But why didn't you say that @CheeseWisely? Perfectly reasonable thing to say, at her own she was probably in bridal bliss so didn't realise it.

lolit · 19/08/2024 14:45

A lot of people have rules and standards for others, but think they should be exempt. It's literally main character syndrome

5128gap · 19/08/2024 14:38

How very odd of them to believe they could control who entered the car park of the venue and whether a guest went out there to BF. That alone indicates they are as daft as a pair of brushes and that all bets are off with regards to their behaviour. So not at all surprised they decided to take their own baby, or that they'd have friends who'd pause in their own nuptials to ensure the baby was evicted. All as mad as the moon OP. What on earth are you doing in such a circle?

Notwhatuwanttohear · 19/08/2024 14:35

What the fuck.

They said no to you breastfeeding in the carpark.

Why did you even ask them?

CheeseWisely · 19/08/2024 14:29

Yes I think a lot of people just have absolutely zero self-awareness.

Recently Friend A was telling me about the wedding of a mutual friend that she'd been to; we'd been invited but couldn't attend.

Friend A complained that the ceremony had been too long at 90 minutes, and that she'd had to stand in heels throughout, as she was a member of the wedding party.

Friend A's own wedding ceremony was also 90 minutes long, and there weren't enough seats for all the guests (oh and it was Central Europe in early July so near on 40 degrees without a breath of cool air to be had).

It took everything I had not to blurt out 'sounds very similar to yours, but much cooler!'

gardenmusic · 19/08/2024 14:23

Cherrysoup

I think she was insane!
It's not as if she was a friend who had been sidelined in any way.
Meanwhile little rogue bridesmaid was happily flitting around the couple, with guests trying to stop her from photo bombing every picture! She was eventually coralled by a family with children, and baby sat.

invisiblecat · 19/08/2024 14:21

Daisyoopsies · 19/08/2024 11:41

I didn't say anything but my mum was with me when they were telling us the story (we weren't at the wedding they went to, they were telling us about it afterwards, seemingly having forgotten what they did to us a year ago!) and my mum just said "what goes around comes around then" (she's much braver than me!) and they changed topic VERY quickly.

It's very passive aggressive but the way I got my own back was to politely decline when they asked if I wanted to hold the baby... it's not the baby's fault, I was just angry in the moment and was just thinking "I'm not going to literally physically support your baby when you wouldn't support us when we were in the trenches..."

Strangely now I'm no longer annoyed at them for not letting me go last year, I think I they've probably understood my frustration now!

Your mum is a legend.
Flowers

Isometimeswonder · 19/08/2024 14:19

OooohAhhhh · 19/08/2024 13:19

Splendid!
I'm not normally so nasty but I'm so pleased they got turned away.
How dare they begrudge you only breastfeeding your baby - in the car park!
This couple are the definition of "serves them right"
Imagine how annoyed they would have been as-well with getting all ready - for nothing!
I think child free weddings in general are all a bit entitled tbh.

That's a bit harsh. I didn't want a load of kids at my wedding, mainly because I can't have them and it upsets me sometimes.

cookiebee · 19/08/2024 14:18

Weddings have got so weird, they used to be just big family and friends events, all the kids and babies involved without a second thought, If anyone has seen the Peter Kay stand up bit about family weddings, that’s just how they were, I miss them!

Stephy1886 · 19/08/2024 14:14

Rosscameasdoody · 19/08/2024 11:07

To be honest I think anyone who insists on a child free wedding hasn’t much awareness of the difficulties of parenting. I understand that they don’t want a baby crying in the middle of the ceremony, but I’ve been to plenty of weddings were babies were present, and the mums quietly took them out if they were fussing. I don’t think it’s a big deal. But to answer your question, yes, definitely CF’s to turn up with the baby despite knowing it was child free, especially after being so unreasonable about your own breastfed baby to the point where you had to decline the invitation.

Edited

People who can’t go because they have kids can just decline

CatamaranViper · 19/08/2024 14:11

I was the first in our friendship groups to have a baby and I had loads of issues like this. Friends inviting me out last minute and being surprised that I couldn't, friends inviting me for weekends away when I was breastfeeding and again being surprised that I couldn't make it. I got quite a lot of grief for missing things but I was a new mum, exclusively bf a prem baby who wouldn't take a bottle. The same friends all now have kids and seem outraged that people don't understand that they can't just drop everything to go on weekends away.
I just chuckle to myself

diddl · 19/08/2024 14:08

I wouldn't have asked about feeding in the car park.

It wouldn't occur to me to ask my husband to sit about like that when we could be elsewhere enjoying time together!

Well you say close relative but I guess you mean in their relationship to you.

Certainly not in their consideration of you!

Clarinet1 · 19/08/2024 14:08

I’m childless and have never married but even I totally understand that a baby is a tiny, helpless person who is totally dependent on the parents, particularly if breastfed, and also that the parents have the right to decide what’s right for their child. Therefore, in this story, I cannot believe the CFery of the bride and groom later turning up to someone else’s wedding with their baby without even asking when they had shown so little consideration for the OP.
Anyway, to me, a curious question from a toddler in a loud voice or a little boy doing “aeroplanes” on the dance floor adds to the fun!

ilovesushi · 19/08/2024 14:03

Daisyoopsies · 19/08/2024 11:36

@JabbaTheBeachHut I love this!!!

I actually only asked because I had initially declined and then he asked if I could find childcare so I could come. I said no but me and husband had been discussing the possibility of feeding in car park so I could still go and so I mentioned this to the groom in our conversation and he said no because it'd be unfair if any other parents saw this and thought I was getting special treatment (?!?!) so I left it. Honestly... I think if other parents had seen a mum breastfeeding a baby in the back of a car at a wedding they would have more than understood...)

If I saw a mum breastfeeding in the back of the car at a wedding I would be appalled that she had been made to feel so unwelcome that she had to sit in her car. Even if the wedding itself is childfree, surely the venue has some quiet rooms where a new mum can sit in comfort with her baby. Thoughtless and self absorbed.

YellowMess · 19/08/2024 13:57

They certainly do seem to lack self awareness/empathy. Your mum's reply was good!

I wouldn't worry about not holding the baby - lots of reasons why people decline that and they couldn't have possibly known yours in that moment. As you've said - there will be more opportunities.

Unfortunately, there are plenty of people around who are like this. Hopefully, they will be become capable of some self reflection and growth in time and you can still enjoy a relationship with then rather than obligatory tolerance - that is probably 50:50 though...

IsawwhatIsaw · 19/08/2024 13:56

Many years ago a cousin got married , they announced it was a child free wedding . My DB and I were around 7 and 9 at the time, so childcare was organised as it was an overnight stay.Anyway my parents went and apparently found the event was full of children. My father was furious as he was her uncle, and it affected relationships down the line .

catndogslife · 19/08/2024 13:55

Daisyoopsies · 19/08/2024 11:41

I didn't say anything but my mum was with me when they were telling us the story (we weren't at the wedding they went to, they were telling us about it afterwards, seemingly having forgotten what they did to us a year ago!) and my mum just said "what goes around comes around then" (she's much braver than me!) and they changed topic VERY quickly.

It's very passive aggressive but the way I got my own back was to politely decline when they asked if I wanted to hold the baby... it's not the baby's fault, I was just angry in the moment and was just thinking "I'm not going to literally physically support your baby when you wouldn't support us when we were in the trenches..."

Strangely now I'm no longer annoyed at them for not letting me go last year, I think I they've probably understood my frustration now!

Your mum's comment was spot on.

Dassiee · 19/08/2024 13:54

It takes a special kind of cunt to decline a mother feeding her baby in a car park! As if that was their decision to make. They sound vile.

YYURYYUCICYYUR4ME · 19/08/2024 13:51

I've been to weddings with, without and with stealth children (invited as very close family only / no big deal made of their attendance) and I think that the lack of control some have over their children (and sometimes themselves in control of their children), plus the lack of consideration, might be resulting in a blanket ban, which hits hard. Weddings are such expensive productions now, with everyone wanting them to be perfect, the days of them being family orientated and everyone knowing one another - thinking here that everyone took turns with babies / small children / and could help discipline (in a nice way) and keep them entertained, that children didn't bother anyone - seem to be long gone and I miss the friendlier smaller scale weddings. I also remember weddings where children went off at a decent time to sleep, or home, including me as a kid, but again weddings are often so far from home that this becomes an issue too. I eloped, as it wasn't the kids that were the issue for me, but their parents (my relations) and I wasn't prepared to put up with their antics, drunken behaviour and bringing up old fueds, so I ran off and avoided it all lol!!!

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