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AIBU to want to wear a mask again in my classroom

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EmsHugs · 19/08/2024 08:05

Would like to know AIBU to not give in to this parent demand.

I am in my second trimester but still quite small so not told many people as we still have some tests etc and i am listed as high risk. It is my first pregnancy after years of infertility, failed IVf and and I am being super cautious. Before the summer when I was in the early weeks of my pregnancy I caught covid and was very ill so since returning to school I have chosen to wear a mask, particularly as I have still to get several of the vaccinations like flu, whooping cough etc.

A parent of a child has put in a complaint and said I should remove the mask because it makes their child anxious but I have said while I am sorry their child does not like the mask, due to current health issues I will not. They have now made accusations that I am a poor teacher and not respectful of their child's issues, however as a high school teacher I have over 500 pupils in and out my classroom every week and want to every precaution I can to protect my baby. The school are aware why I am doing this and said they will explain to the parent but several of my colleagues, friends and family members are still not awaresi am pregnant so I do not particularly feel I should have to divulge this to a parent and that stating my health concerns should be sufficient. I have even sat with the child and explained that I wear the mask to protect myself and that I need to wear it for now but that may change later but I appreciate them being understanding. The pupil seemed to be okay but the parent continues to be adament and I believe it is because I have immediately not given into them and stood my ground.

The stress of this parent sending complaints everytime this child is in my class 4 times a week, is getting me very stressed so I would like to know:

AIBU to not divulge at the moment the reason I need to wear a mask
AINBU the parent needs to realise they cannot get everything they want.

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jasminocereusbritannicus · 19/08/2024 14:25

The thought of ever having to wear masks again fills me with absolute dread...

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 19/08/2024 14:25

ArabellaScott · 19/08/2024 14:19

To answer your question, I think that as a society, we are still collectively recovering from what for many has been an intensely difficult and sometimes traumatic period - covid and lockdowns. I'm not saying it's necessarily rational, but I think everyone has their own reasons for this being an emotive topic.

Which is also why people seem to be attacking each other in a slightly out of proportion way on this thread, I expect.

I'm really sorry to hear about your experiences, that's awful. Flowers

I've been called the "scourge of society" for suggesting it might be nice for op to take some time off work and put her feet up. So yes, think out of proportion is definitely the theme for this thread!!!

BettyBardMacDonald · 19/08/2024 14:24

SplendidUtterly · 19/08/2024 14:16

Wear it if you want to, it's your choice.
I'd personally like masks to be bought back and made madatory on public transport as it would significantly reduce the spread of viruses on trains/buses especially in the winter when there is a lack of ventilation on them....
But that won't be happening anytime soon so oh well🙃

I feel the same.

Anyone who feels angry about others wearing masks needs counseling. That's as stupid is being angry because others are wearing sunglasses or ear defenders.

Lemia · 19/08/2024 14:22

ChristmasPostman · 19/08/2024 12:46

YABU because you don’t “need” to wear a mask as you state. It’s a personal preference. And as you’ve already had Covid once during this pregnancy and the baby was unaffected why on earth do you now think you “need” to wear a mask? It’s your preference to wear one and it’s the pupils and parents preference to see your face and not to have their anxieties sparked by your clinging to this Covid relic. Who’s mental state do you think is the most important in this scenario? Your worries are understandable given your history but I don’t think you should be letting them control you. You should be modelling sensible evidence led practice as a teacher surely? I wouldn’t be thrilled with you teaching my child.

The teacher’s. Obviously.

ArabellaScott · 19/08/2024 14:19

AnotherAngryAcademic · 19/08/2024 13:48

@Luio ”I say this as someone who can’t help but feel slightly angry when I see someone in a mask”

Why on earth does the sight of someone wearing a mask make you angry? It has zero impact on you…

I am immunocompromised, so wear a mask when on public transport, in shops etc. I have been yelled at, spat at, and on the train home from a visit to say goodbye to a friend having end of life care in a hospice a man decided that my sitting on a train wearing a mask was a reason to physically attack me. It was terrifying. I was very lucky that two other men intervened and pulled the first man off me. His explanation? My mask “made him angry”.

Why is the sight of someone wearing a medical device, that has nothing to do with you, and has no impact on you, a source of anger?

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To answer your question, I think that as a society, we are still collectively recovering from what for many has been an intensely difficult and sometimes traumatic period - covid and lockdowns. I'm not saying it's necessarily rational, but I think everyone has their own reasons for this being an emotive topic.

Which is also why people seem to be attacking each other in a slightly out of proportion way on this thread, I expect.

I'm really sorry to hear about your experiences, that's awful. Flowers

SplendidUtterly · 19/08/2024 14:16

Wear it if you want to, it's your choice.
I'd personally like masks to be bought back and made madatory on public transport as it would significantly reduce the spread of viruses on trains/buses especially in the winter when there is a lack of ventilation on them....
But that won't be happening anytime soon so oh well🙃

Mumoftwo1316 · 19/08/2024 14:13

Just to clarify.

The reason why "you've never seen so much summer illness around like in the last few years" is precisely because of lockdown and masking.

I'm not saying they weren't necessary.

But reduced immunity to common colds is the side effect of isolation and masking.

...which is terrible for newborns.

DinnaeFashYersel · 19/08/2024 14:12

Aworldofmyown · 19/08/2024 10:47

My sons teacher still wears a mask sometimes - she has an immune condition. No one bats an eyelid, I don't understand why anyone would have an issue.

Lots of people have given reasons why it's a problem. Hearing loss and ADHD being 2 examples.

Mumoftwo1316 · 19/08/2024 14:05

Also, if having Covid again and again works as protection against having Covid, why is everyone so ill all the time? I've never seen so much "summer illness" around like in the last few years.

The total irony of someone lecturing me about pseudo science and Donald trump and then using arguments like this...

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 19/08/2024 14:03

doce · 19/08/2024 13:55

It so happens that I have a very detailed knowledge of the impact of a compromised immune system on both the efficacy of vaccines and the impact of coming into contact with viruses such as COVID and influenza. And of the impact that such viruses have on various underlying conditions. And the efficacy of the various different types of face mask.

What medical knowledge do you have?

Is this an actual medical qualification though or are you a scientist of some kind? "Detailed knowledge" is vague- someone could say that after an afternoon perusing various news articles!
And I don't have much knowledge about anything tbh- but at least I don't sit there on my high horse preaching to everyone else that I do!

Mumoftwo1316 · 19/08/2024 14:02

JustAVeryWeirdWoman · 19/08/2024 11:37

I think a lot of people have simply misunderstood the hygiene theory about healthy exposure to environmental bacteria. There was an Olympic athlete who was hoping to strengthen himself for e-coli in the Seine during the triathlon by not washing his hands after going to the loo (!). That's the level of health misinformation we have reached. Now people here telling a pregnant woman she needs to catch viral illnesses while pregnant to help her baby. We're all just Donald Trump talking about drinking bleach now.

There are about 400 trillion viruses living in your body right now. That's not a joke figure. Regardless of how you behave you will be full of them and exposed just by virtue of living, but they are not all equal. Trying to avoid a potentially deadly or disabling virus like Covid by using respiratory protection doesn't mean you are living in a bubble. Also, if having Covid again and again works as protection against having Covid, why is everyone so ill all the time? I've never seen so much "summer illness" around like in the last few years.

Acquiring immunities to colds is not Donald trump drinking bleach!

It is mainstream science. Viruses do mutate but you can develop some resistance if you have antibodies for a similar one.

This is why, for example, people who live in remote isolated tribes die if they catch one of our colds. Because if you've had a cold before, you can catch another one but it'll be mild from your residual immunity. The more recent your last cold, typically speaking on average, the more up to date your immunity.

This isn't pseudo science. It's totally mainstream, doctors discussed it openly during and after the pandemic.

This is nothing to do with bacteria like e coli. I'm afraid you are the confused one if you think they are at all similar. E coli lives naturally in our large intestine, in huge numbers. It makes us ill if it gets into our upper digestive system. You can't be immune to it, it's already in you.

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doce · 19/08/2024 13:58

AnotherAngryAcademic · 19/08/2024 13:48

@Luio ”I say this as someone who can’t help but feel slightly angry when I see someone in a mask”

Why on earth does the sight of someone wearing a mask make you angry? It has zero impact on you…

I am immunocompromised, so wear a mask when on public transport, in shops etc. I have been yelled at, spat at, and on the train home from a visit to say goodbye to a friend having end of life care in a hospice a man decided that my sitting on a train wearing a mask was a reason to physically attack me. It was terrifying. I was very lucky that two other men intervened and pulled the first man off me. His explanation? My mask “made him angry”.

Why is the sight of someone wearing a medical device, that has nothing to do with you, and has no impact on you, a source of anger?

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Well said. Anyone who feels angry at the sight of a mask needs psychiatric help, and any kind of physical attack should involve a long prison sentence.

Werweisswohin · 19/08/2024 13:56

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 19/08/2024 10:42

This parent is probably an anti-masker / anti-vaxxer so just try and ignore them. Seems many on this thread… The school is supportive so stick to your guns. Can you report the parent for harassment if they continue? Your headteacher needs to be protecting you. If it carries on can you get signed off sick by your GP due to the anxiety of it and your condition?

Who has mentioned anything about being anti-vaccines apart from posters accusing others of being antivaxxers?

doce · 19/08/2024 13:55

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 19/08/2024 13:38

@doce please enlighten us with your medical qualifications because all you are doing is telling everyone else they are ignorant and just being insulting in general.
You sound like a really pleasant person.

It so happens that I have a very detailed knowledge of the impact of a compromised immune system on both the efficacy of vaccines and the impact of coming into contact with viruses such as COVID and influenza. And of the impact that such viruses have on various underlying conditions. And the efficacy of the various different types of face mask.

What medical knowledge do you have?

CinnamonSwirlGirl · 19/08/2024 13:52

That’s awful @AnotherAngryAcademic . I’m so so sorry 😞. People get scared by things they don’t understand and the stupid ones lash out, rather than educating themselves.

Werweisswohin · 19/08/2024 13:52

anyolddinosaur · 19/08/2024 10:06

Mumsnet was taken over by anti-vaxers. Ignore them. You are doing nothing wrong. Good masks are protective for the wearer and the complainant has no right to any medical information. If possible the school should move the child to another class so you dont have continued harassment from an idiot.

Nobody has mentioned vaccinations, or lack of, until you did.
Nice try though.

AnotherAngryAcademic · 19/08/2024 13:48

@Luio ”I say this as someone who can’t help but feel slightly angry when I see someone in a mask”

Why on earth does the sight of someone wearing a mask make you angry? It has zero impact on you…

I am immunocompromised, so wear a mask when on public transport, in shops etc. I have been yelled at, spat at, and on the train home from a visit to say goodbye to a friend having end of life care in a hospice a man decided that my sitting on a train wearing a mask was a reason to physically attack me. It was terrifying. I was very lucky that two other men intervened and pulled the first man off me. His explanation? My mask “made him angry”.

Why is the sight of someone wearing a medical device, that has nothing to do with you, and has no impact on you, a source of anger?

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 19/08/2024 13:38

@doce please enlighten us with your medical qualifications because all you are doing is telling everyone else they are ignorant and just being insulting in general.
You sound like a really pleasant person.

araiwa · 19/08/2024 13:34

I'd have just started wearing the mask...

I wouldn't have told anyone before or asked permission

doce · 19/08/2024 13:32

kiuy · 19/08/2024 13:20

@doce you don't have to be an immunologist to have common sense and the ability to read:

After a person acquires a virus, the immune system retains a memory of it.

www.healthline.com/health-news/how-long-does-immunity-last-after-covid-19-what-we-know#Hownatural-immunity-works-after-COVID-19-develops

And for those whose immune system has been knocked out either by a medical condition or drugs required to treat a condition? Your ignorance is astounding.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 19/08/2024 13:26

The operative word in my post being "think" as in I THINK as in my OPINION. Which I'm entitled to and the OP has asked for opinions!
Not stating things as fact or telling her what to do.

GrammarTeacher · 19/08/2024 13:25

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 19/08/2024 08:09

Even in the height of Covid we didn’t wear masks to teach in; it’s just not feasible.

Didn't you? We did!

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 19/08/2024 13:24

TransformerZ · 19/08/2024 13:21

She was being helpful, concerned - your response to her was what can be labelled as a the scurge.

Thank you- I was only putting forward my concerned suggestion. It wasn't a fucking mandate.
It's a forum. That's the whole point. @doce
I'm pregnant myself with various conditions so DFOD you keyboard warrior accuser 💕

Charlieeeeee · 19/08/2024 13:21

FrippEnos · 19/08/2024 13:06

Who’s mental state do you think is the most important in this scenario?

That this is being asked shows why so many teachers are leaving the profession.

I agree, because apparently teachers don't matter.

TransformerZ · 19/08/2024 13:21

doce · 19/08/2024 13:16

Loving the way you feel you have some knowledge of this person’s medical condition and the impact of underlying conditions, coupled with immunosuppression.

Anonymous keyboard warriors with no knowledge telling others what to do are the scourge of society.

She was being helpful, concerned - your response to her was what can be labelled as a the scurge.