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AIBU to want to wear a mask again in my classroom

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EmsHugs · 19/08/2024 08:05

Would like to know AIBU to not give in to this parent demand.

I am in my second trimester but still quite small so not told many people as we still have some tests etc and i am listed as high risk. It is my first pregnancy after years of infertility, failed IVf and and I am being super cautious. Before the summer when I was in the early weeks of my pregnancy I caught covid and was very ill so since returning to school I have chosen to wear a mask, particularly as I have still to get several of the vaccinations like flu, whooping cough etc.

A parent of a child has put in a complaint and said I should remove the mask because it makes their child anxious but I have said while I am sorry their child does not like the mask, due to current health issues I will not. They have now made accusations that I am a poor teacher and not respectful of their child's issues, however as a high school teacher I have over 500 pupils in and out my classroom every week and want to every precaution I can to protect my baby. The school are aware why I am doing this and said they will explain to the parent but several of my colleagues, friends and family members are still not awaresi am pregnant so I do not particularly feel I should have to divulge this to a parent and that stating my health concerns should be sufficient. I have even sat with the child and explained that I wear the mask to protect myself and that I need to wear it for now but that may change later but I appreciate them being understanding. The pupil seemed to be okay but the parent continues to be adament and I believe it is because I have immediately not given into them and stood my ground.

The stress of this parent sending complaints everytime this child is in my class 4 times a week, is getting me very stressed so I would like to know:

AIBU to not divulge at the moment the reason I need to wear a mask
AINBU the parent needs to realise they cannot get everything they want.

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Sladuf · 19/08/2024 09:26

Sirzy · 19/08/2024 08:33

I’m guessing your not in the U.K. as mask use doesn’t seem to be commonplace here anymore (thankfully!)

and it’s not just pupils with hearing loss that may struggle. Your approach to a parent raising concerns suggests pupils concerns wouldn’t be listened to anyway!

Thank you and to others who have pointed out that those of us with hearing loss or who are deaf really struggle with people wearing face coverings. Would imagine even pupils with good hearing will struggle at times to hear what the OP is saying. Pupils aren’t going to say anything though realistically.
My advice to the OP is it sounds like you are experiencing anxiety. This a condition many people get signed off work with and perhaps you should be reconsidering your stance on whether you are actually fit to attend work. Counselling would probably help.

I know of an incident during autumn 2021 where a policeman was told by a person who has hearing loss they couldn’t understand him and the policeman refused to take the mask off when asked! The person with hearing loss walked away as a result and then got into a bit of bother. It was all resolved in the end but what really annoyed me was the situation was avoidable had the policeman used common sense and bothered to acquaint himself with the regulations at the time, which allowed for face coverings to be removed in situations like that. I have my suspicions why the idiot didn’t oblige.

LoneHydrangea · 19/08/2024 09:25

I’d hate the mask wearing and I don’t think teachers should be wearing them. But it’s your choice so if the school supports you, crack on. I don’t think it’s a big deal to tell people at 19 weeks.

I hope you start your mat leave as soon as you possibly can.

NowYouSee · 19/08/2024 09:25

The bottom line here is if the school is happy for you to wear one, they need to shut down the complaints from this parent and say they won’t be engaging further on the matter.
Whilst it might be helpful for them (in terms of trying to make this fo away) to provide the context of pregnancy/immuno compromised to the complainant, this is your private information and you are quite within your rights to say no. That’s the conversation you need to have.

Werweisswohin · 19/08/2024 09:24

Catza · 19/08/2024 09:13

Then maybe you shouldn't have commented...
Happy to explain. The parents are worried about child's anxiety over something that is fairly trivial. The child was spoken to by the OP and did not appear overly concerned about the mask, yet the parent keeps pestering the school resulting in the OP's own anxiety over having to divulge personal information.
If the parents are expecting their child to never come into contact with a masked person, they better ensure the child remains totally insular and never takes a trip to a country where wearing a mask is a norm. Any reasonable parent who ventured outside of their own postcode would understand the wider implications of their actions.
As OP said multiple times, she does not want people's opinions on whether or not she should wear a mask. I am guessing the vast majority of the posters went to school when masks were not on scene and yet are still struggling with their reading comprehension. The issue is probably not the mask then, is it?
And just in case you feel tempted, it was a rhetorical question. No need for further contribution from you.

Still not sure how it's relevant to OP but apparently I'm not allowed to interact with you on a public forum.
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WorriedMama12 · 19/08/2024 09:24

Sweetteaplease · 19/08/2024 08:30

Also, she'll just be voicing what the other parents are thinking. One teacher often wears a mask at my sons pre-school and it really pisses the parents off, but everyone is afraid to say something

Why would it piss people off? I'd be more concerned about the staff member to be honest, that they had to or felt they had to wear a mask to protect themselves.

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 19/08/2024 09:22

It’s not forever is it. Parent needs ti get a grip- 1 pupil in 500, ffs. Child also needs to get a grip of a mask makes them anxious- I’m not sure how they’ll cope with a hijab.

WorriedMama12 · 19/08/2024 09:21

DinnaeFashYersel · 19/08/2024 09:08

Of course you should not have to divulge your condition to anyone.

However - you have said yourself you know that the mask probably wont make any difference.

IMO teachers shouldn't be wearing masks.

Even for health reasons?

TwinklyAmberOrca · 19/08/2024 09:20

Your other option is the covid rule of teaching from the front only and not helping!

Could you take the mask off to teach and then wear it when helping pupils?

Or why not move this pupil into a different class?

WorriedMama12 · 19/08/2024 09:19

YANBU at all. I've been where you are, years of infertility, miscarriages etc and the anxiety about a pregnancy can knock you sick. If doing something to feel like you're protecting yourself and your baby helps you relax a little then go ahead.

How bloody entitled of the parent to think that her little darling not liking the mask trumps your health issues. I hope she's told to bog off.

maverickfox · 19/08/2024 09:19

NeedSomeAnswersPlease · 19/08/2024 08:50

It's not health anxiety when you're immunocompromised and in the middle of a high risk pregnancy.

It’s a perfectly reasonable adjustment in those circumstances. People don’t understand how at risk immunocompromised people are. Covid isn’t just a cold to them, it can be life threatening. 200 people a week in the UK are still dying from it and most of them will be vulnerable in one way or another, though not all. OP has every right to protect herself and her baby and it seems her workplace agrees.

OP, I think parent is harassing and trying to bully you with complaints every time the child is in your class and I would ask the school to address this with the parent. You do not have to disclose your health conditions to parents.

systemicmotivations · 19/08/2024 09:19

@EmberAsh it's well known that Scotland's school summer holidays are end of June to early/mid August. This has been the case for at least 80 years so it is bizarre that every summer someone comes along showing complete ignorance of this. Just to add to the education differences- Scotland also had their exam results about 2 weeks ago (other than the minority of pupils who took GCSE or A Levels). Sorry to derail your thread for a moment OP.

GoldenLegend · 19/08/2024 09:18

Rocknrollstar · 19/08/2024 08:14

Masks help stop you spreading an infection, they don’t stop you catching one.

Rubbish: FFP33 masks stop you from catching one.

loulouljh · 19/08/2024 09:17

Some children would not be able to hear you...I would have been one of them. Before covid masks were never a thing and you would have not dreamt of wearing one. I think you are being unreasonable.

sleekcat · 19/08/2024 09:17

I thought you were going to say you taught young children when you said it made them anxious. If it was my child I would not make a big thing about it but I did struggle to hear what people were saying in masks which would be a problem in a classroom. Also you can't read expressions so kind of cut people off from you.

Genevieva · 19/08/2024 09:16

I think you need to keep in mind that parents will not raise this for no reason. Seeing a face is vital for communication and communication is vital for teaching. I found masks were a huge impediment to my effectiveness as a teacher three years ago.

If you are interacting closely with ill children, you will likely catch a cold from them regardless of whether you wear a mask. If they are visibly ill they shouldn’t be in school and if they have no symptoms of illness there is nothing for you to catch.

I’m not here to tell you that you shouldn’t, but I do think you need to understand why parents would consider it detrimental to their children’s learning and pointless. Presumably they will find out that you are pregnant in a month or so, but even then, they are likely to think you are being ridiculously anxious to the detriment of their children.

PolkaStripeShirt · 19/08/2024 09:16

I have lung disease. Have you had any covid boosters? Vitamin D and C is also helpful. TBH if I ever get it, it's been around early/mid October.

readysteadynono · 19/08/2024 09:15

My SEN child would find a teacher in a mask really difficult and may struggle to understand what you are teaching BUT if I was told it was health related I would except it as ‘one of those things’. If my child still couldn’t understand I’d politely ask if as a reasonable adjustment the school might consider moving them. This wouldn’t be a complaint, just negotiating two valid but conflicting needs. Basically YANBU and as your employer the school should now be taking over communication with parent and resolving it for you.

Emeraldiisland · 19/08/2024 09:15

One out of 500? I wouldn't pay any attention and also find it hard to believe a student from high school would be worried about masks when it was normal for so long.
My DD did have to move closer to the teachers when they were wearing a mask (quite a few did and quite a few didn't) as she has limited hearing in her left ear.
I'm not sure it will protect you but if it makes you feel more comfortable and reduces the risk even slightly I'd carry on.
If the parent is so worried (doesn't sound like their kid cares) perhaps they should remove their child and home educate.

GingerPirate · 19/08/2024 09:15

CosmicDaisyChain · 19/08/2024 08:14

Sorry. I think you may have health anxiety or something because this really isn't going to protect you anyway. We know that masks don't stop us catching anything. You'll still catch things anyway.

Exactly.
A life we are being sold, huh?
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Georgieporgie29 · 19/08/2024 09:14

No, you don’t have to share your medical details with a parent.

I don’t believe the mask will be doing much to protect you, however, if it makes you feel better and able to continue working then go for it.

I wish you all the best for this pregnancy and hope everything goes smoothly from here.

Bogginsthe3rd · 19/08/2024 09:14

CosmicDaisyChain · 19/08/2024 08:14

Sorry. I think you may have health anxiety or something because this really isn't going to protect you anyway. We know that masks don't stop us catching anything. You'll still catch things anyway.

Depends what type of mask. Ffp3 will actually protect you well. Perhaps do a bit of research 1st before posting!

Catza · 19/08/2024 09:13

Werweisswohin · 19/08/2024 09:04

I don't really understand why the Japan reference was relevant to start with......

Then maybe you shouldn't have commented...
Happy to explain. The parents are worried about child's anxiety over something that is fairly trivial. The child was spoken to by the OP and did not appear overly concerned about the mask, yet the parent keeps pestering the school resulting in the OP's own anxiety over having to divulge personal information.
If the parents are expecting their child to never come into contact with a masked person, they better ensure the child remains totally insular and never takes a trip to a country where wearing a mask is a norm. Any reasonable parent who ventured outside of their own postcode would understand the wider implications of their actions.
As OP said multiple times, she does not want people's opinions on whether or not she should wear a mask. I am guessing the vast majority of the posters went to school when masks were not on scene and yet are still struggling with their reading comprehension. The issue is probably not the mask then, is it?
And just in case you feel tempted, it was a rhetorical question. No need for further contribution from you.

Werweisswohin · 19/08/2024 09:12

Inkypot · 19/08/2024 09:09

Isn't it interesting how your thread has become a microcosm of exactly what's happening in your classroom? We all know we do not have to disclose our medical information to anybody unless we want to, and that people demanding to know isn't a reason to disclose anything. Yet here on this thread you have people berating you for drip feeding rather than recognising that it's none of their business. Your question was clear- whether you have to disclose the medical information that you are pregnant- and the answer is equally clear- no you do not have to tell the parent about your pregnancy if you do not wish to. That's it. But people are people and will launch in with their opinions and scoffing rather than just answer a clear question. Good luck with the pregnancy OP and let this thread be a small practice for dealing with all the opinions you'll get given over the next few years regarding your pregnancy and parenting. You can do this mama.

Drip feeding happens when someone doesn't give the whole picture to start with, which is essentially what OP did (intentionally or not). Nobody is forcing her to reveal anything or even post, but as she's chosen to post she does have to provide enough information for an adequate response, otherwise it's all a bit pointless. HTH

fnvfjj · 19/08/2024 09:12

ToD101 · 19/08/2024 08:22

I hope none of your 500 pupils have any kind of hearing loss.

I was going to mention this. My DS has mild hearing loss and finds it very difficult when people wear masks. He isn’t the only one. Teachers wore clear shields instead for this reason.

I also thought it had been shown that they’re more to protect others than yourself - unless you have a proper fit tested one.

Charlieeeeee · 19/08/2024 09:11

@Inkypot lovely response. And perfectly said. 99% of posters just missing the point of the post entirely, as usual on MN. Yours is lovely 💕