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Neighbours on holiday and left dog in house

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PrimaryBufferPanel · 19/08/2024 04:20

And the poor bloody animal has been crying and barking for 24 hours. She has the occasional rest but it’s pretty much constant other than that. They have form for this: worst before this recent episode was leaving the poor dog crying for 12 hours straight when they went out one time. That wasn’t the only time but was previously the worst.

They were reported and notified so they know their dog has separation anxiety. Yet this morning in the early hours the entire family fucks off on holiday - must be a holiday as they all had suitcases - and since they left, that poor dog has been crying.

Someone came in for around twenty minutes earlier today to let the dog in the garden and presumably to feed her. But then they fucked off and since then just non stop crying interspersed with barking. it’s honestly NOT annoying me - it’s making me feel so sad for the dog.

Given they had suitcases this has got to be for at least a week, I know the dog will be fed and let out for twenty minutes a day but it’s so clearly in distress! What would you do? Anything?

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MrTiddlesTheCat · 19/08/2024 11:42

DonnaBanana · 19/08/2024 09:38

I just went away for a week and left my cat outside. Came back he’s happy as Larry. Animals can adapt if you let them after all they come from nature.

Disgusting. That's a criminal offence where I live.

WiddlinDiddlin · 19/08/2024 11:33

Grammarnut · 19/08/2024 09:48

The dog hasn't been abandoned, someone is coming in to feed her and exercise her. Would she be better in kennels? Probably not. The issue is that the dog owners have not come to terms with having a dog, nor have they trained her properly (mind, if she is something like a cocapoo she will have inbuilt anxiety because the cross in highly-strung), nor have they thought about the sort of dog which would suit their life-style. They need a good dog-walker who will board the dog when they are away. This is expensive, however. The alternative is to take 'dog-friendly' holidays, which means staying in the UK.

DD and her DP have a dog with anxiety. They either take him with them when they go away, or board him with his dog-walker, or find a family member to come and stay if it's a short break, or messy and work-related (DD travels a lot for her job).

Neighbours are not being cruel, but they have the wrong dog for their life-style and cannot afford/do not understand that they need a more hands-on style of dog-sitter, rather than relying on a friend to come in once a day to feed/walk the dog.
Why do you not offer to dog-sit if this upsets you?

In kennels, she'd not be forced to toilet indoors - she'd have some sort of company on and off through the day - she'd almost certainly get a run around or a walk - she'd be fed twice a day - the kennel run area would be cleaned several times a day.

I don't know how you can say her owners are not being cruel - the dog is in distress and they have caused this by leaving her with insufficient/inappropriate care.

That is cruel - whether its because they genuinely don't know, whether she's in kennels or not, isn't relevant. By their action or lack of action they're causing unecessary suffering.

BettyBardMacDonald · 19/08/2024 11:30

I wish there had been a trigger warning; this is extremely distressing.

Motnight · 19/08/2024 11:27

DonnaBanana · 19/08/2024 09:38

I just went away for a week and left my cat outside. Came back he’s happy as Larry. Animals can adapt if you let them after all they come from nature.

That's awful if true.

Cotonsugar · 19/08/2024 11:26

Kimmeridge · 19/08/2024 04:47

I instead of reporting them straight away would it not make more sense to initially speak to the dog sitter & explain the dog isn't settling. Maybe they'll take it with them or at least contact the owners & see if there's a solution. The owners might be under the impression the dog sitter is staying with the dog for longer. But explain if it's not sorted you'll report them.

This. You would be doing it for the dog, not the neighbours. They might be paying the “carer” to stay longer or even stay in the house. I’ve heard of sitters not doing what they are supposed to be doing. Either way this is downright cruelty, even if the dog didn’t have separation anxiety - it’s far too long for a dog be left alone😭

PfishFood · 19/08/2024 11:16

TinySmol · 19/08/2024 04:26

What?

I think the poster meant that the RSPCA attended, put tape on the doorframe to then come back and check for "evidence" that the dog had been visited.

After the dog feeder had left, the poster went out and replaced the sellotape that had been broken, to make it look like no-one had been in, and hence giving the RSPCA justification for taking the dog.

HoneyLimesBlossom · 19/08/2024 11:10

@HamBagelNoCheese do you need similar help ? or would you like to volunteer the team (need someone to cover norfolk way ) i’m london and west essex and we also need someone in suffolk /lowestoft way too including home checks for rescues

if you need please feel free to pm ..

oakleaffy · 19/08/2024 11:09

DonttouchthatLarry · 19/08/2024 10:48

Do the owners know the person is only popping in or do they think they are staying there I wonder? My friends paid a relative who was a 'professional' dog sitter to stay in their house while they were away. I got a call from the sitter (during the petrol shortages) to say she couldn't get there so could I go round? I said I thought she was supposed to be staying there and had to tell friend, who then checked her Ring doorbell and saw exactly when she'd been coming and going. Friend ended up driving home and taking dogs back to a kennels near to where she was staying - might as well have done that in the first place but thought they'd be happier in their own home being looked after by someone being paid to be there.

My friend paid a house sitter and was told by her neighbour that her dog had been left alone all night!

{Barking and howling and sitter's car not there!}

It's not on when people are paid to care for an animal and don't fulfil that duty.

I'm looking after a cat - a round trip of 60 miles- only for a week, She's a house cat, so needs her litter tray cleaning and daily feeding/watering. I stay overnight sometimes, and am on my way there now to stay over. {Relative's cat}.

She definitely pines for her people- she never eats her wet food when they go away for some reason, only her kibble.

pintsizeprincess · 19/08/2024 11:07

Poor poor dog. Some people just shouldn't be allowed pets.
Our cat has been in the cattery this week while we've been away. A lovely lady who adores cats runs it and she always goes there. Oh she will be pissed off at us when we collect her later and be in the huff for a while but at least I know she's been well looked after and safe while we've been away.

oakleaffy · 19/08/2024 10:56

I do actually wonder what the RSPCA is actually FOR sometimes, in cases like chained dogs or other animals.

Yes, they do good work in rehoming animals {We had a wonderful Lurcher from them} but they don't have many ''teeth'' to actually do much for dogs left chained or shut up in houses.

They prosecuted a man who shot a squirrel - maybe as that was easy to do as the squirrel was found on his property with pellets in it.

One IS legally allowed to shoot squirrels, but this pensioner was a poor shot and had caused unnecessary suffering.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2263806/The-Verminator-Pensioner-hauled-court-taking-air-rifle-squirrel.html#:~:text=Pensioner%20is%20hauled%20to%20court%20after%20taking%20his%20air%20rifle%20to%20a%20squirrel,-Facebook&text=After%20watching%20it%20raid%20his,Worthington%20decided%20enough%20was%20enough.

Anotherparkingthread · 19/08/2024 10:49

Boopbeepbeepboop · 19/08/2024 10:44

So what's the alternative? Ignore it?

Well yeah. In much the same way when something isn't a crime, you probably shouldn't report it.

Why would you want to if you know nothing will happen? To waste people's time? To make yourself feel better by taking ultimately fruitless actions?

DonttouchthatLarry · 19/08/2024 10:48

Do the owners know the person is only popping in or do they think they are staying there I wonder? My friends paid a relative who was a 'professional' dog sitter to stay in their house while they were away. I got a call from the sitter (during the petrol shortages) to say she couldn't get there so could I go round? I said I thought she was supposed to be staying there and had to tell friend, who then checked her Ring doorbell and saw exactly when she'd been coming and going. Friend ended up driving home and taking dogs back to a kennels near to where she was staying - might as well have done that in the first place but thought they'd be happier in their own home being looked after by someone being paid to be there.

Boopbeepbeepboop · 19/08/2024 10:44

Loonaandalf · 19/08/2024 10:43

RSPCA can do nothing, I’ve been there before. The police won’t break in unless it is evident the animal is in immediate danger.

So what's the alternative? Ignore it?

Loonaandalf · 19/08/2024 10:43

All you can do is make a noise complaint but I’ve also done that before about dogs and not much can be done.

Loonaandalf · 19/08/2024 10:43

Boopbeepbeepboop · 19/08/2024 04:31

Call the RSPCA, definitely. What bloody awful people, poor dog

RSPCA can do nothing, I’ve been there before. The police won’t break in unless it is evident the animal is in immediate danger.

Boopbeepbeepboop · 19/08/2024 10:43

oakleaffy · 19/08/2024 10:36

That's really awful.
Poor poor dog.

Surely they are breaking noise laws? The noise of the barking would really disturb me- barking dogs , especially an abandoned dog is very distressing.

RSPCA are useless- I have reported {as did many others} a dog chained up in a scrap yard -He was never walked, the RSPCA Chap said ''Dog has a barrel to shelter in, food and water- it's not illegal to keep a dog chained 24/7 365 days a year, unfortunately''

I offered to walk the dog so many times, it was refused.
He got more and more aggressive with frustration as the years went by, his chain polished smooth with dragging across the ground.

A Border Collie X.
A dog with that intelligence chained for life.

It was so bad.

That's so sad

Floralnomad · 19/08/2024 10:39

DonnaBanana · 19/08/2024 09:38

I just went away for a week and left my cat outside. Came back he’s happy as Larry. Animals can adapt if you let them after all they come from nature.

People like you shouldn’t have animals

Anotherparkingthread · 19/08/2024 10:39

The RSPCA won't do anything. They will send somebody to tape the door but if the tape is broken and somebody was left to feed the dog no law has been broken. There is no law that says you can't leave a dog overnight. As long as the animals has access to water and is fed regularly then there's nothing at all they can do. They won't bother with cases they can't take to court and win because it's a massive waste of resources.

My neighbour left her dog for a week with people calling in twice a day. The dog had a dog flap so could get in the house and access to a Wendy house/play house in the garden. Somebody called the RSPCA (a really drunk woman who later stole vodka from my house!) and when the man arrived he taped the door, said he knew the seal would be broken as people had clearly been coming and going and he could see an outdoor bowl of water etc over my fence. Dog was fine.

oakleaffy · 19/08/2024 10:36

PrimaryBufferPanel · 19/08/2024 04:31

I think maybe that poster means that the RSPCA puts tape on the door, kind of like a crime scene. If the tape is broken then it means someone has attended.

What gives me pause is that someone definitely is coming in to see to the dog at least once a day but the poor girl is so distressed.

What the fuck is wrong with people? I could never do this.

That's really awful.
Poor poor dog.

Surely they are breaking noise laws? The noise of the barking would really disturb me- barking dogs , especially an abandoned dog is very distressing.

RSPCA are useless- I have reported {as did many others} a dog chained up in a scrap yard -He was never walked, the RSPCA Chap said ''Dog has a barrel to shelter in, food and water- it's not illegal to keep a dog chained 24/7 365 days a year, unfortunately''

I offered to walk the dog so many times, it was refused.
He got more and more aggressive with frustration as the years went by, his chain polished smooth with dragging across the ground.

A Border Collie X.
A dog with that intelligence chained for life.

It was so bad.

MoleAtTheCounter · 19/08/2024 10:34

There has been much mention of the RSPCA.

They wear uniforms, have ranks (eg inspectors, superintendents) and issue cautions like the police. They have an illusion of authority that helps with voluntary compliance.

They do not have police powers, they do not have a statutory right of entry, they have no more power than you or I.

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 19/08/2024 10:32

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 19/08/2024 05:21

If you are positive that the poor dog only gets one 20 minute visit a day @PrimaryBufferPanel
then please, please, please, notify the authorities about him or her! I love nearly all animals, except the human variety, but I must admit that dogs have an extra special place in my heart. We have spent thousands of years domesticating them, therefore they rely on us for everything really, not just their food and exercise, but for our love, our company, and for us to provide them with mental stimulation.

I hate the thought of that poor dog suffering like that, but unfortunately through personal experience, I have no faith in the RSPCA at all, unless there are TV cameras there. So I think you should start first with the police, then if a week day with your local council, and if neither of them are interested, I suppose I would have to try the RSPCA. If no-one helped I would have to follow the dog sitter/minder/feeder into the house and rescue the dog - even if that ended up getting me into trouble legally, but I know that many people wouldn't be able to risk getting in trouble with the police etc.

All of this.

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HamHook · 19/08/2024 10:27

Try the dog warden - they have various powers depending on which council they serve. The main bulk of their work is strays but they can issue fines and deal with pet related noises. They usually have strong ties to the local police force too and they work alongside rescues and the RSPCA.

It's worth a shot.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 19/08/2024 10:19

I would call RSPCA too.

dbeuowlxb173939 · 19/08/2024 10:17

That's awful. I would call the RSPCA 🤬

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