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Random stranger sat on my table at a dinner and tribute act show

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Prontehpronto · 18/08/2024 00:09

Hi, I went to a dinner and ABBA tribute act tonight on my own (family out of town and no one else to go with). I was having a lovely time, a stranger asked if he could take the extra chair,I said yes cos I thought he was going to pick it up and take it, he proceeded to sit down! He asked why I was on my own,I said hubby was away and I thought I'd enjoy a show, he started telling me about his divorce etc, he was older, 62, seemed not weird and just overly friendly father like figure, but when the shoe carried on he didn't move!!! I said aren't your friends going to miss you, he was like its fine!! I ignored him and turned away, I'm pissed cos he didn't go away and plus I had paid extra for VIP tickets at a table at the front. His friend cane to give him a drink, I thought bloody hell no way,told him not to put the drink down on my table and can you go back with your friends. Bloody ruined my night abit, why did he do that, and how should I have handled it. He prob was harmless but he shouldn't have approached a lone female I don't think and then not gone away!!!

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Constantcookies · 18/08/2024 08:24

ohfook · 18/08/2024 07:16

I think this is a problem with a lot of men. In that they don't/won't read the room.

Yes of course there's nothing wrong with a man approaching a woman in a social situation. A great many relationships, friendships and flings start that way. It's the fact that he completely ignored it not being reciprocated that was the problem. I know it's not all men but I know a lot of men like this and you just know he was thinking that he was just trying to be friendly or chivalrous or whatever without acknowledging that the other person did not actually want his company.

Also in my experience a lot of men in their sixties totally see women in their forties as a 'similar age' and totally fine whereas women in their sixties do not view men in their forties in the same way!

This is true and I can’t speak for this man in particular that Op encountered but the wider issue is a lot of men that age will ignore women their own age and only try and date women under 45! I’ve heard many women this man’s age complain of being invisible to men their age.

The reason being many men their age seem to be deluded that all younger women are just waiting for a much older man, and they wrongly think they look better and younger than women their age when often that’s not the case.

Constantcookies · 18/08/2024 08:19

savoycabbage · 18/08/2024 06:23

don't think too many single men would be complaining about that.

I do. Confused

What man in his early twenties wants a woman twenty years older than he is comfortable over to him on a night out talking about his divorce? I don't think many would enjoy that.

None of the men I know that age hang around with middle aged women.

Exactly 😂

@shuggles And even if it that were true it still doesn’t take away from the fact a man in his 60s hitting on a much younger woman is generally going to be unwelcome.

As I said he should’ve read the room better and not hit on a woman young enough to be his daughter who has booked a VIP table for herself and was quite content sitting on her own.

It’s rare this would happen the other way around.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 18/08/2024 08:19

Marseillaise · 18/08/2024 08:09

I agree. What this comes down to mostly is a story of how someone came and misread the signals, but went away when asked. It's not really that big a deal. OP, you should just have asked him to leave sooner, or even stopped him sitting at your table.

What "signals" was the OP sending out for him to assume his presence might be welcome?

Is this the automatic signal that a woman on her own must always be in need of (and be grateful for) male company?

Marseillaise · 18/08/2024 08:09

Scarzo · 18/08/2024 01:24

I think you're being a tiny bit unreasonable. If you were single and he was your type this could have been a very sweet "how we met" story. He just didn't know you weren't and he wasn't.

He didn't read your signals and overstayed his welcome. But if I'd been in your shoes I'd have just said something along the lines of "Well, nice chatting to you. I'm actually here to enjoy the show by myself tonight, so it's time for you to go. Feel free to take the chair with you." And not given him another thought.

But trying to get you up to dance was cringey and annoying. So YANBU about that.

I agree. What this comes down to mostly is a story of how someone came and misread the signals, but went away when asked. It's not really that big a deal. OP, you should just have asked him to leave sooner, or even stopped him sitting at your table.

Marseillaise · 18/08/2024 08:03

Zow · 18/08/2024 00:17

This. ^ Annoying pushy fucker thought 'woman alone, must rescue her.' Because lone women in social situations can't cope on their own. 🙄

I fucking hate this shit.

I sometimes go places alone - even though I'm married for some years - and half the time I get an annoying pushy over-chatty man (or a couple) badgering me - because I'm clearly a sad and lonely iccle wumman. Hmm

'Just fuck off' is what I wanna say!

Sounds like you handled it OK @Prontehpronto but I am sorry this rude man put a dampener on your night!

OTOH, that's what I want to say about @Screamingabdabz' massively ageist generalisation of what men of one generation do. How would that sound if you put it terms of what men of one race did?

betterangels · 18/08/2024 08:02

its quite an odd thing to go to on your own though, so probably thought you'd been stood up and felt sorry for you

I can't believe people still think this way in 2024.

RetroTotty · 18/08/2024 08:01

mitogoshi · 18/08/2024 06:28

Did you pay to reserve all the table and seats to yourself? If not yabu to think it's odd to share. We see live music at our local pubs most weekends and you share your table, it's normal, you also get people suggesting you get up and dance especially if you are alone to be friendly.

There's some miserable people here. If the pub has the same etiquette as our locals then yabu

This was a booked event, not a night at the local 'spoons. OP paid extra for her VIP table. The man, I assume, didn't share costs for OP's VIP table. The man was with his friends until he cornered OP and plonked his unwanted arse at her table.

He did not approach the lone male at another table, nor did he implore the lone man to get up and dance like he did OP.

I think most of us are clear as to the agenda here.

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 18/08/2024 07:58

Warmfeet · 18/08/2024 00:49

its quite an odd thing to go to on your own though, so probably thought you'd been stood up and felt sorry for you.

It's a shame people think it's odd to go out on your own- why do you think it's strange?
I go out on my own all the time because none of my friends share my interests and I dont really care nor do I want to chat to random strangers.

StarvingMarvin222 · 18/08/2024 07:45

Scarzo · 18/08/2024 01:24

I think you're being a tiny bit unreasonable. If you were single and he was your type this could have been a very sweet "how we met" story. He just didn't know you weren't and he wasn't.

He didn't read your signals and overstayed his welcome. But if I'd been in your shoes I'd have just said something along the lines of "Well, nice chatting to you. I'm actually here to enjoy the show by myself tonight, so it's time for you to go. Feel free to take the chair with you." And not given him another thought.

But trying to get you up to dance was cringey and annoying. So YANBU about that.

So the op is unreasonable about not wanting a strange man sitting at her table.
You know the one she bought.
But he's not unreasonable for plonking his hole down beside her.
Ok.

betterangels · 18/08/2024 07:44

Prontehpronto · 18/08/2024 00:28

He should have really 'read the room' abit, it wasn't a social situation, I was having a dinner on my own table enjoying a show, it wasn't speed dating, or I wasnt hanging out at the bar. I am alot younger then he is and he should have approached me at all let alone sat down. I'm all for friendly chats at a bus stop or at tesco checkouts, not when I'm having a dinner by myself... if I was in my 60's I wouldn't sit on the table of a lone 40 year old bloke and have a chat, he had his own friends to be friendly with...

Definitely agree with this. Pushy and weird.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 18/08/2024 07:35

WhoWhereWhatHow · 18/08/2024 07:01

Gosh I don't know which is worse, I'm defo young enough to be his daughter so doubt he was trying his luck with me...

I bet he was. I wonder why he didn't go and talk to the man who was on his own? 🤔

You mentioned your husband and later turned away from him and he still didn't take the hint. Creepy fucker. I'm glad you told him to leave.

I think you handled it well. You were polite at first, turned away to keg him know you didn't want his company and when that failed, you told him to leave. Unfortunately men like this think women are desperate god their company and that women are there to entertain them.

Unfortunately men like this think women are desperate god their company and that women are there to entertain them.

Unfortunately there appear to be plenty of women who think women are desperate for the company of men like this and that women should be grateful to them.

DinnerOnTheGrass · 18/08/2024 07:34

But did you actually say the words ‘No, take the chair with you back to your own table. I want to enjoy this event by myself’?

MetalFences · 18/08/2024 07:32

I can only assume you met your husband through mutual friends since that's the only way you allow a man to talk to you

How absolutely ridiculous. The OP didn't need a man to talk to her when she was watching a show and having her dinner.

If I asked you to go for a run in the middle of your working day or to make a cake when you were at the cinema or have a chat with my aunt when you were at a job interview then I wouldn't assume that you never went for runs, made cakes or chatted.

You don't have to things, even if you enjoy them, at a time you don't want to do them and more importantly you don't have to do things with people you don't choose to do them with.

MandyMiceDavies · 18/08/2024 07:32

Men of that generation don’t listen to women unless you make it very very clear

If he’s 52 he was born in the 70s and will have had to listen to women his whole life. Sounds like a creep, his age is no excuse.

Well done, op. I’d guess he was either on the pull or just fancied a better seat, either way you were right to tell him to leave.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 18/08/2024 07:31

Firefly1987 · 18/08/2024 03:20

How does one manage to talk to a stranger without getting close enough to "impose their presence on someone" 😆Not everyone is like OP or you either, some would be glad of the company is all I'm saying. If you don't like it tell them to leave you alone and they'll soon get the message and avoid you like the plague.

What a limited existence some of you have that you can't imagine doing things on your own or that you have to have company and that women should be grateful if random men take pity on them.

Jentefieldroamer · 18/08/2024 07:26

How awful having to listen to a man talking about his divorce when you're having a night out. I think he's rude to approach you with his woes, but most probably on the pull, a lot of single men in their sixties have the idea a forty year old woman is perfect for them, that's why they're single.

ohfook · 18/08/2024 07:24

Firefly1987 · 18/08/2024 03:16

Given his age as well it's probably just that he's from a generation that actually talked to people, greeted people in the street etc. instead of having ear phones in 24/7 gazing at their phone so as never to make eye contact with anyone. I can only assume you met your husband through mutual friends since that's the only way you allow a man to talk to you 😆

Unless he was an actual fucking idiot though at the point where the op turned her back to him and ignored him, he could probably have realised she wasn't into chatting with him. Surely a good social interaction involves both people being willing participants.

And the op wasn't staring at her phone, she was enjoying a show that she had paid money to see.

ohfook · 18/08/2024 07:16

I think this is a problem with a lot of men. In that they don't/won't read the room.

Yes of course there's nothing wrong with a man approaching a woman in a social situation. A great many relationships, friendships and flings start that way. It's the fact that he completely ignored it not being reciprocated that was the problem. I know it's not all men but I know a lot of men like this and you just know he was thinking that he was just trying to be friendly or chivalrous or whatever without acknowledging that the other person did not actually want his company.

Also in my experience a lot of men in their sixties totally see women in their forties as a 'similar age' and totally fine whereas women in their sixties do not view men in their forties in the same way!

Stopsnowing · 18/08/2024 07:07

Had you paid for your seat or the table? If the former yabu if the latter yanbu.

Tescovalu · 18/08/2024 07:02

This is also all bollox

WhoWhereWhatHow · 18/08/2024 07:02

*let
*for

RoastLambs · 18/08/2024 07:02

Do you not have punctuation/apostrophies on your keyboard?
And are you sober yet?

What do you mean? She has used punctuation/apostrophes.

WhoWhereWhatHow · 18/08/2024 07:01

Gosh I don't know which is worse, I'm defo young enough to be his daughter so doubt he was trying his luck with me...

I bet he was. I wonder why he didn't go and talk to the man who was on his own? 🤔

You mentioned your husband and later turned away from him and he still didn't take the hint. Creepy fucker. I'm glad you told him to leave.

I think you handled it well. You were polite at first, turned away to keg him know you didn't want his company and when that failed, you told him to leave. Unfortunately men like this think women are desperate god their company and that women are there to entertain them.

CormorantStrikesBack · 18/08/2024 06:56

I’d have thought he’d have thought the age difference was perfect. I reckon most single 60yo men would prefer a woman in her 40s rather than someone their own age. I’m not saying it’s right but you only need to look at OLD bios to see it’s true.

autienotnaughty · 18/08/2024 06:53

He probably thought he was doing you a favour 🙄

Now it's happened you are prepared and next time can say 'I thought you were asking to take the chair, I don't want company thanks"

It's frustrating when we go into politeness mode and put up with something we shouldn't have to for fear of offending.