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To tell DD she can't do it anymore?

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whatawickedgame · 17/08/2024 08:36

I genuinely don't know what to do about this, I feel terrible for even considering it.

DD (8) is a very good dancer and was invited onto her dance companies competitive team. She was thrilled and I was thrilled for her, she tries her very best. She is a competitive person by nature so she really likes doing it. She has classes 4 days a week. However, some of the classes start at 3:45pm (twice a week) and it's occurred to me that now I'm considering going back to work since DC has started school, I can't find a job that is flexible enough for my schedule for DD, even part time ones. I live in a relatively small town and jobs are really hard to get here, particularly part time ones. DD is theoretically tied into this team and these classes until she's 17. The classes don't get later as she gets older. She's only been doing all of these classes for a few weeks before the summer (and currently on break for the summer holidays) and loves it and I feel terrible for considering taking her out of it since I said she can do it, but I don't know how feasible it is for me to continue making this commitment. I cannot find a job that finishes before 5pm, which right now isn't an issue as I don't need to work this second, but eventually I do want to get back to work and I don't know how I'll be able to do both. There is another dance class in the area that we can get to, but it's one class a week and no competitions which is what DD is really excited for. DD doesn't do other clubs, it's just her dance but I don't know if it's feasible. Does anyone else have this kind of schedule and how do you make it work if you do? AIBU to think that it's maybe not feasible? I genuinely feel terrible Sad

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blueshoes · 17/08/2024 11:35

Pippa246 · 17/08/2024 10:56

100% this!! Dance classes like this are a feckn nightmare unless you are a non-working/cliquey/'dance mom'! My daughter did it and they were always looking for more - more time, more money, more input from the parent. Extra practice for competitions/exams; cost of the exams; chaperoning on the bus to competitions; selling tickets for club shows.

Honestly, it was the bane of my life so I was so glad when DD got fed up of all the favouratism, back biting and general stress and changed to a running club.

I'd pull her out now before she gets any more attached - she'll get over and it and you can find something else that suits you better as getting back to work is quite important IMHO - because you want to.

This, Competitive dance is toxic and a bit of a scam.

blueshoes · 17/08/2024 11:27

Yalta · 17/08/2024 11:00

My dd did dance and it was more than a hobby

It has become part of her business and has led to loads of other opportunities

Whilst being a dancer isn’t the most lucrative of careers it does lead to other stuff that are far more well paying

Out of interest, like what other careers?

sunsetsandboardwalks · 17/08/2024 11:16

Find a local sixth former who'd like some easy part-time work. They can pick DD up and walk her to class for you.

Nobodywouldknow · 17/08/2024 11:15

Pippa246 · 17/08/2024 10:59

Exactly @LiquoriceAllsorts2 - where do these magical jobs exist? Especially since OP has stated that jobs are hard to come by where she lives. Honestly - MN at its finest....surprised someone hasn't told her to take in ironing yet 😂

They have, upthread

Nobodywouldknow · 17/08/2024 11:14

Ivehearditbothways · 17/08/2024 10:35

It doesn’t matter what he said or what you promised. He is being a shitty parent. Sit down and talk to him. This would be marriage ending for me. A parent who will only parent as long as it’s convenient is a shitty parent.

It’s one thing if it’s unaffordable; it’s another to stop because he doesn’t want to do the drop off once or twice a week.

He’s her step parent. On here, people fall over themselves to tell step parents that they never have to parent their step kids whatsoever. It’s also not a question of just walking 20 minutes - he will have the other children with him and will need to keep them entertained for the duration of the DD’s dance class. He pays for the classes. He told the OP it was too much and she decided she would make it work despite that. He’s by no means a shit parent here. It’s also highly unlikely that the DD will become a professional dancer and nor is it a career I’d aspire to given that it’s so competitive and short in duration. She can enjoy dance without doing it 4 times a week. Also, none of her siblings will likely be able to engage in a hobby of similar intensity because the parents’ time will be taken up with the dance.

AnywhereAnyoneAnyTime · 17/08/2024 11:12

Pippa246 · 17/08/2024 10:56

100% this!! Dance classes like this are a feckn nightmare unless you are a non-working/cliquey/'dance mom'! My daughter did it and they were always looking for more - more time, more money, more input from the parent. Extra practice for competitions/exams; cost of the exams; chaperoning on the bus to competitions; selling tickets for club shows.

Honestly, it was the bane of my life so I was so glad when DD got fed up of all the favouratism, back biting and general stress and changed to a running club.

I'd pull her out now before she gets any more attached - she'll get over and it and you can find something else that suits you better as getting back to work is quite important IMHO - because you want to.

This.

smallchange · 17/08/2024 11:11

Leafcutterantsarecool · 17/08/2024 11:07

It’s not his child to be running around after and he’s already working so that OP can be a SAHM to children that aren’t his and pay for all these activities. Not being willing to bend over backwards to enable an eight year old child to go to an entirely optional and very demanding hobby multiple times a week is quite reasonable, especially when he’s said from the beginning he thinks it’s too much.

There’d be uproar on here at the suggestion a step mum, already the breadwinner and financially enabling her husband to be a SAHD, should organise her life around a step son going to a football academy.

That makes no sense. If she's a SAHM he wont need to do it because she will.

If he does do it because she's working, then he's no longer the sole breadwinner and she's contributing to both the household expenses and activities.

Reading between the lines though, I wonder if he'd prefer her not to work.

Gettingbysomehow · 17/08/2024 11:11

What about booking a regular taxi to take her? Preferably woman driver. You can book in advance then pick her up yourself afterwards.

Leafcutterantsarecool · 17/08/2024 11:07

Ivehearditbothways · 17/08/2024 10:50

The OP didn’t say his work hours prohibited it. If that were the issue then that’s what she would have said, because then it’s not an option and simply impossible. She said he won’t do it because he doesn’t want to. I’ll base my replies on what the OP actually says.

It’s not his child to be running around after and he’s already working so that OP can be a SAHM to children that aren’t his and pay for all these activities. Not being willing to bend over backwards to enable an eight year old child to go to an entirely optional and very demanding hobby multiple times a week is quite reasonable, especially when he’s said from the beginning he thinks it’s too much.

There’d be uproar on here at the suggestion a step mum, already the breadwinner and financially enabling her husband to be a SAHD, should organise her life around a step son going to a football academy.

Goatscheesewithpeaches · 17/08/2024 11:02

OP, like many others suggested you could pay another school mum or 17 year old to take her. Also you may want to talk to the manager about pushing the timings back (with some other mums) as I’m sure many of them are in the same boat as you.

KerryBlues · 17/08/2024 11:02

whatawickedgame · 17/08/2024 08:52

So DH would be able to finish earlier on the days I'd theoretically work but on those days, he'd have to do both school runs too which he can do, but I signed up for all of the running around for DD, he didn't want her to do it because it's so much running about but I thought that it didn't matter as I'd be the one doing all of the running about. Our other DC has clubs that are manageable as they're later in the evening.

My schedule on a day DD has dance is both school runs, quickly get DD changed, take both to her club to drop her off, either head home for an hour or stay out with other DC round the shops/library, pick DD back up and then go home.

So your dh could do it, but just doesn't want to?

Lovelysummerdays · 17/08/2024 11:02

I’d have a decent look at other options first . Lots of good ideas here. 8 is not far off independence I’d investigate other children who go and car pooling. A flexible finish time once a week is much more like palatable to employers. Speak to the dance school you will not be the first parent in this position and they may know.

Job wise consider the civil service/ la the pay is not great but good pension and tend to be flexible/ family friendly.

Yalta · 17/08/2024 11:00

My dd did dance and it was more than a hobby

It has become part of her business and has led to loads of other opportunities

Whilst being a dancer isn’t the most lucrative of careers it does lead to other stuff that are far more well paying

Pippa246 · 17/08/2024 10:59

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 17/08/2024 10:37

You make it sounds easy but I don’t think that the case.

Exactly @LiquoriceAllsorts2 - where do these magical jobs exist? Especially since OP has stated that jobs are hard to come by where she lives. Honestly - MN at its finest....surprised someone hasn't told her to take in ironing yet 😂

reallyworriedjobhunter · 17/08/2024 10:58

Explain the situation to the people who run the team. They will know who might be using teens or a childminder to do drop offs from school and might have some ideas.

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 17/08/2024 10:56

foodforclouds · 17/08/2024 10:43

I’d be very hesitant to put DD8 in a cab with just a stranger

To be fair it might have been a council taxi; I don't know. The child in question was 7 and had SEN. It was always the same person and the child felt safe with them.

Anyway, the OP says it's not possible... although if collecting from school I think a substitute responsible adult could be found.

Pippa246 · 17/08/2024 10:56

Werweisswohin · 17/08/2024 08:42

If you can't do it then you can't do it @whatawickedgame. She's also only 8, so it might be better in the long term to be doing a more relaxed class, less often, than so much competing. Welcome to motherhood - where we feel we can never quite do enough! 😔

100% this!! Dance classes like this are a feckn nightmare unless you are a non-working/cliquey/'dance mom'! My daughter did it and they were always looking for more - more time, more money, more input from the parent. Extra practice for competitions/exams; cost of the exams; chaperoning on the bus to competitions; selling tickets for club shows.

Honestly, it was the bane of my life so I was so glad when DD got fed up of all the favouratism, back biting and general stress and changed to a running club.

I'd pull her out now before she gets any more attached - she'll get over and it and you can find something else that suits you better as getting back to work is quite important IMHO - because you want to.

Ivehearditbothways · 17/08/2024 10:52

foodforclouds · 17/08/2024 10:43

I’d be very hesitant to put DD8 in a cab with just a stranger

My kids get school taxis. They go to different school so not in together; my high school kid is in with several other kids but my primary child goes alone.
Those driver’s are properly checked out and are safe around kids. I’d have no problem sending them in a car with a taxi driver who does school runs. She could just ask for one of those.

Ivehearditbothways · 17/08/2024 10:50

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 17/08/2024 10:40

It is during his work hours. We have no idea what job he does but you can’t just regularly take time out during your working hours and presumably his job is pretty important for the family. That does not make him a shitty husband/father.
presumably it’s only affordable due to the money he brings in from his job

The OP didn’t say his work hours prohibited it. If that were the issue then that’s what she would have said, because then it’s not an option and simply impossible. She said he won’t do it because he doesn’t want to. I’ll base my replies on what the OP actually says.

DanceMumTaxi · 17/08/2024 10:49

My dd is also 8 and a competitive dancer since she was 5. Twice a week classes start at 4pm which is a bit of a nightmare, there is no way I can get her there. One day a week my mum does it, dh does the other, but goes back to work once he’s dropped her off. Near comps extra classes are added and in-laws help, my mum does extra and I share drop off/pick ups with other mums. It can be quite stressful, but dd loves it. I asked the teacher for her private slot to be 6-7 on one of the days so that I’m home to help.

BreatheAndFocus · 17/08/2024 10:46

Get a part-time job, mornings or one of the 10-2 ones aimed at parents of younger children. 4 days a week is a lot but if you were happy with that, it seems cruel to stop DD doing it now.

smallchange · 17/08/2024 10:44

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 17/08/2024 10:40

It is during his work hours. We have no idea what job he does but you can’t just regularly take time out during your working hours and presumably his job is pretty important for the family. That does not make him a shitty husband/father.
presumably it’s only affordable due to the money he brings in from his job

No, that's not what she said. She said he would finish work early in order to do the school pick up. He'll then be looking after two children, not working.

But I don't think it's fair to call him names - I don't think op has even asked him.

foodforclouds · 17/08/2024 10:43

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 17/08/2024 10:16

You could get a regular contract with a willing taxi driver and get them to take her. When I was a TA I knew a few children, whose parents couldn't get to school, get a taxi home with the same driver each day. You could arrange something like that?

I like the idea of an older girl from the squad escorting her too, though.

I’d be very hesitant to put DD8 in a cab with just a stranger

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 17/08/2024 10:40

Ivehearditbothways · 17/08/2024 10:35

It doesn’t matter what he said or what you promised. He is being a shitty parent. Sit down and talk to him. This would be marriage ending for me. A parent who will only parent as long as it’s convenient is a shitty parent.

It’s one thing if it’s unaffordable; it’s another to stop because he doesn’t want to do the drop off once or twice a week.

It is during his work hours. We have no idea what job he does but you can’t just regularly take time out during your working hours and presumably his job is pretty important for the family. That does not make him a shitty husband/father.
presumably it’s only affordable due to the money he brings in from his job

foodforclouds · 17/08/2024 10:39

She’s only 8, between school and such a full on dance schedule, when does she get to just be a kid?