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To tell MIL she can't hold baby

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FreightTrain · 16/08/2024 13:29

Just arrived at in-laws with our 7w old DD, they've met her twice.

MIL gets cold sores, discussed with DH in car and asked him to be on look out for if she has one as she can't hold baby if so. Arrived, no cold sore but after being here ten mins it seems she is a bit ill. Sounds hoarse, nose a bit red, popping cough sweets. DH is an oblivious man so either hasn't noticed or hasn't put 2+2 together about it not being ideal to have our baby around her.

I've managed to escape the room that they're having lunch as baby needs fed. I want out of here asap and don't want her to hold baby. What do I do?!

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Nanny0gg · 16/08/2024 14:11

otravezempezamos · 16/08/2024 13:52

This. Clearly just enjoying goading her knowing she wants to hold her grandchild. Don’t expect any childcare favours in the future ehh.

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sunsetsandboardwalks · 16/08/2024 14:11

YABU. How would you cope if you or DH got a cold?

I think it's fair enough to say "no kissing" but to say that the baby's grandma can't have a cuddle because she has the sniffles is ridiculous IMO.

Nanny0gg · 16/08/2024 14:10

RosesAndHellebores · 16/08/2024 13:36

A 7 week old baby will still have antibodies from you. Cold sores transmit by contact so if she washes her hands and doesn't kiss the baby it's fine. My father used to get cold sores. I have never had one.

What antibodies for which cold virus?

Thisismynewname2024 · 16/08/2024 14:10

I'm just thinking op if you or your DH had a cough /cold whi would look after baby?

Nanny0gg · 16/08/2024 14:10

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Don't think the OP is the loon...

Gogogo12345 · 16/08/2024 14:09

FreightTrain · 16/08/2024 13:49

Are you aware that the herpes simplex virus can be fatal to babies? Doesn't sound ridiculous to me.

What would you do if it was YOU that had the cold sore out of interest?

Letsgotitans · 16/08/2024 14:09

FreightTrain · 16/08/2024 13:49

Are you aware that the herpes simplex virus can be fatal to babies? Doesn't sound ridiculous to me.

I thought a cold sore could only be passed on to a baby if that person kissed them? Not just being held be them?

Nanny0gg · 16/08/2024 14:06

Spacecowboys · 16/08/2024 13:45

If someone is clearly unwell, common sense says not to hold a baby. The cold sore thing is ridiculous. I get cold sores regularly and I didn’t avoid holding my dc’s as babies because I had one. Neither of them have had cold sores.

The issue is if MiL chooses to kiss the baby on the face/lips

And most sensible GPs would have told family that they weren't well before expecting to see a fairly new baby

Alittlebitwary · 16/08/2024 14:06

I'm on the fence, it's just a cold and baby will probably be fine, needs to be exposed to some illnesses to build up immunity etc anyway - but also if you want to avoid it it's perfectly reasonable too. You are the mother and it's your call!

Just explain you don't want baby getting unwell, like you have here. It can impact feeding and sleep etc which can be horrible for you as well as baby. You can say it in a nice way as others have suggested above, but if MIL tries to push back then just say no and leave it at that, or you just leave. Ask her if her need for a cuddle comes before her granddaughter's health. If she's huffy - let her huff!

Monkeysatonthewall · 16/08/2024 14:05

Bumpingaround · 16/08/2024 13:56

Colds are contagious through touch and airborne droplets when coughing or sneezing. I’ve caught numerous colds and never had anyone cough or sneeze into my face, ever.

You're correct. I meant more that MIL could maybe hold the baby for couple minutes (after washing her hands obviously) rather than actually be involved in baby's care while ill if that makes sense.

Definitely not worth taking the risk with such a small baby.

BetterThings · 16/08/2024 14:05

I think it is selfish not to explain in advance to guests or visitors if there are colds or viruses in the home.

I would not let someone with a cold hold a 7 week old baby. If they got huffy, I would leave. I may say I will be in touch with more dates to catch up, in the proviso that everyone is well.

I recently went to a big family meal with a 7 MONTH old. I felt perfectly fine but came down with a nasty COVID virus the next day. I felt horrible and very guilty. I would check with my family and let them know I have a cold before visiting or meeting up.

Kaaraa · 16/08/2024 14:04

I think I'd leave, you should have been given the heads up. You shouldn't have to stay around anyone ill because they didn't bother telling you. Usually I'm the first to think people are being precious on here (I don't say that, I just often think it), but I don't think you are. Common decency to let someone know you're ill if they are coming to stay.

Alexis7890 · 16/08/2024 14:03

Nope I’d be really angry visited or let us visit with a baby of any age especially that young. and hadn’t said they’re unwell and I definitely wouldn’t let them hold the baby. I’d stay as far away as possible. You are not being unreasonable at all and if you can just leave asap thats what I would do 100%. Ignore people saying you’re being silly, trust yourself and do what you are comfortable with

CornishTiger · 16/08/2024 14:02

I would text husband. She’s clearly ill. We are leaving. Tell her we wouldn’t have come had she said. Ask him to finish lunch and load up car!

Worriedmummy2400 · 16/08/2024 14:00

It’s just sensible not to hold a baby when you are ill. Only on mumsnet will people say otherwise.
“ I had the plague and I held a newborn and they were fine”

RampantIvy · 16/08/2024 13:59

Imnotarestaurant · 16/08/2024 13:32

Has your baby not been exposed to anybody with a cough or cold for 7 weeks?

It isn't unreasonable for a summer born 7 week old to have not been exposed to a cold virus.

Please take @Bumpingaround's advice and ignore anyone who says you are being over protective or precious.

FreightTrain · 16/08/2024 13:59

Floralnomad · 16/08/2024 13:40

No problem with her holding the baby just ask her to not get the baby near her face / kiss it . I get cold sores , always have , neither of my children have ever had one and they are adults . Bit ridiculous going to visit family and then say they can’t hold the baby .

I wouldn't have came if we'd been given the heads up that she was ill.

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FreightTrain · 16/08/2024 13:58

@otravezempezamos there's one goader here and it isn't me my friend. 🙄🫠

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coconutpie · 16/08/2024 13:58

MIL should have told you she was unwell before you arrived as a newborn doesn't need exposure to a cold. If a newborn catches RSV, it can lead to hospitalisation.

Also, cold sores are very dangerous for a newborn too.

You should be leaving and not staying any longer.

Justanothergeneric · 16/08/2024 13:56

I'm with you. Colds are horrid for really small babies. Importantly, until about 5 months old babies are 'obligate nose breathers' - so they CAN'T breathe through their mouths. A stuffy nose is a real problem for a small baby in a way it is not for an older baby or child.

Bumpingaround · 16/08/2024 13:56

Monkeysatonthewall · 16/08/2024 13:50

If she doesn't kiss the baby and doesn't cough/sneeze into babies face, it's going to be fine.

Colds are contagious through touch and airborne droplets when coughing or sneezing. I’ve caught numerous colds and never had anyone cough or sneeze into my face, ever.

ThomasPatrickKeatingsDegas · 16/08/2024 13:55

Flossyts · 16/08/2024 13:54

why would she want the baby to get ill? I don’t go around hugging my family members when I’m poorly.

Yes exactly. When I’m sick and people go to hug me/shake hands when I’m sick I say “I’m sick, I’ll keep my distance”. Common courtesy. But it’s mumsnet with loads of mil’s and mums of sons that wail everytime a MIL is denied her wants over a baby or mums needs.

Topjoe19 · 16/08/2024 13:55

YANBU. My DD got bronchiolitis and was taken into hospital because of contact with someone with a cold. Of course it can't always be helped (siblings) but if she is unwell she should have delayed meeting your baby a couple of days.

Bigcat25 · 16/08/2024 13:55

Colds can be spread through aerosols so she can catch her cold by being in the room. Outside is safer.

walkthedoggie · 16/08/2024 13:55

You're not being unreasonable, but you do need to handle it delicately. I've got an oblivious husband as well - pull him aside and explain your thoughts in simple words