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To wonder how so many people are comfortable breaking the speed limit?

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AngeloMysterioso · 16/08/2024 10:50

Is it just me? I’m pretty vigilant about sticking to the speed limit but more and more I’ve noticed recently that I’ll be doing 70 or just below on a dual carriageway or the motorway and someone will go flying past. God forbid I be driving at the limit on the outside lane, even if I’m going faster than everyone in the middle lane it’s only a matter of time before some knob is either flashing their headlights at me or driving up my arse (or both) while I wait for a big enough gap to move across so they can shoot off before doing the same to the next car in front.

It tends to be most often 4x4 drivers or Mercedes/BMW/Jaguar etc types. Maybe they just don’t think they should have to see the back of a 16 year old Fiesta!

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gamerchick · 16/08/2024 11:57

OneTC · 16/08/2024 11:22

Every time I read a Mumsnet driving thread I feel a little less safe on the road

So do I. People sit in the overtaking lane and others who think speed limits are a guide. Talk about ego.

MaryBeardsShoes · 16/08/2024 11:55

She’s not hanging about in the outside lane, you idiots. She’s overtaking which is what it is there for!!

bonzaitree · 16/08/2024 11:54

I’m with you OP. Everyone needs to leave the house ten mins earlier and chill the f out.

AngeloMysterioso · 16/08/2024 11:53

YellowphantGrey · 16/08/2024 11:49

Your first paragraph in your first post you say,

"God forbid I be driving at the limit on the outside lane, even if I’m going faster than everyone in the middle lane"

The outside lane of a motorway is for over taking.

If you're referring to a dual carriage way, the outside lane is also for overtaking and you should stay in the left lane until you need the right lane.

So by you're logic, your happily sitting firm at 70 in lanes used for overtaking whilst over taking people who are all driving slower if you're able to overtake at 70mph.

You can't complain about people speeding when you're not using the correct lanes in the correct way yourself

So by you're logic, your happily sitting firm at 70 in lanes used for overtaking whilst over taking people who are all driving slower if you're able to overtake at 70mph.

Yep. That’s how overtaking whilst driving legally works. If I’m going faster than the cars to my left then I’m overtaking them.

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LillyLeaf · 16/08/2024 11:52

I recently passed my driving test, I'm going the speed limit on 30, 40, 50 roads and there is always someone right up my arse, it's really annoying. I wish everyone would just chill out when driving, everyone is in a rush.

YellowphantGrey · 16/08/2024 11:49

AngeloMysterioso · 16/08/2024 11:04

Where did I say I do that?

Your first paragraph in your first post you say,

"God forbid I be driving at the limit on the outside lane, even if I’m going faster than everyone in the middle lane"

The outside lane of a motorway is for over taking.

If you're referring to a dual carriage way, the outside lane is also for overtaking and you should stay in the left lane until you need the right lane.

So by you're logic, your happily sitting firm at 70 in lanes used for overtaking whilst over taking people who are all driving slower if you're able to overtake at 70mph.

You can't complain about people speeding when you're not using the correct lanes in the correct way yourself

AngeloMysterioso · 16/08/2024 11:47

Itsjustmeheretoday · 16/08/2024 11:45

Honestly the fact I am just repeating myself gives me a good indication of your driving. Breaking the speed limit when overtaking is perfectly fine and what most competent drivers do. Adieu.

But it isn’t perfectly fine. It’s illegal.

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Itsjustmeheretoday · 16/08/2024 11:45

AngeloMysterioso · 16/08/2024 11:35

I don’t suddenly pull out in front of people. Ever. Ever.

Are you suggesting I should never overtake someone unless I’m prepared to break the speed limit whilst doing it, on the off chance
some dick a good distance behind me wants free rein to continue zooming along at 90 mph?

Honestly the fact I am just repeating myself gives me a good indication of your driving. Breaking the speed limit when overtaking is perfectly fine and what most competent drivers do. Adieu.

ErrolTheDragon · 16/08/2024 11:45

It's more like Op is walking on a footpath, and goes out to overtake a person pushing a buggy. Meanwhile, inconveniencing someone coming up behind her on a bike which shouldn't even be on the pavement.

Exactly!

ErrolTheDragon · 16/08/2024 11:44

There's a lot of posters on this thread whose comprehension and/or understanding of the law seems so low that maybe they should be staying off the roads entirely!

OP, of course it's fine for you to be doing the speed limit in the outside lane while you're overtaking. Doing 70 isn't 'going slow' ffs. It is, of course, worth calibrating your speedo vs gps to ensure you're not actually doing 63 when it reads 70.

People exceeding the speed limit are breaking the law. Tailgating and flashing is wrong and dangerous too.

NoTouch · 16/08/2024 11:40

Are you a new driver or have you just realised this?

It has always happened and in the 30+ years I have been driving I don't think it is getting any worse. You will always get twats in life whether driving or otherwise, you just ignore them, move over when you have completed your manoeuvre, let them move on and forget about them. Not really worth any additional thought.

Iggii · 16/08/2024 11:40

I love how all the drivers who speed view themselves as better, more competent, more alert etc 😀

Iggii · 16/08/2024 11:39

Itsjustmeheretoday · 16/08/2024 11:31

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Think about this if you were walking on a footpath, and how annoying you'd be to suddenly pull put in front of people so they all have to slow down. It's dangerous. Why don't you slow down to those other people rather than pull out? They are to you, what you are to them. You're meant to apply common sense, not blindly follow the law. That's why it's called common law.

It's more like Op is walking on a footpath, and goes out to overtake a person pushing a buggy. Meanwhile, inconveniencing someone coming up behind her on a bike which shouldn't even be on the pavement.

Properchips · 16/08/2024 11:38

Re OP, I do not think you are being unreasonable. I can rarely remember the last time I was able to drive at even 70mph on UK motorways as 'average speed checks' are all over the place at 50mph and if a lane is closed for any reason then if you don't have to constantly stop and start because some drivers just do not know how to merge, then to get above 30mph you're winning. I hate the M5!

LlynTegid · 16/08/2024 11:37

I call it the Clarkson tendency. Those who view any restriction when behind the wheel as some assault on personal freedom.

Along with people who are always late for anything and trying to reduce that, those who underestimate time for a journey, and traffic congestion caused by middle lane hoggers.

The terminology of motoring 'offences' not crimes (which is what they are) shows how such crimes are viewed.

AngeloMysterioso · 16/08/2024 11:35

Itsjustmeheretoday · 16/08/2024 11:31

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Think about this if you were walking on a footpath, and how annoying you'd be to suddenly pull put in front of people so they all have to slow down. It's dangerous. Why don't you slow down to those other people rather than pull out? They are to you, what you are to them. You're meant to apply common sense, not blindly follow the law. That's why it's called common law.

I don’t suddenly pull out in front of people. Ever. Ever.

Are you suggesting I should never overtake someone unless I’m prepared to break the speed limit whilst doing it, on the off chance
some dick a good distance behind me wants free rein to continue zooming along at 90 mph?

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MikeRafone · 16/08/2024 11:35

Itsjustmeheretoday · 16/08/2024 11:31

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Think about this if you were walking on a footpath, and how annoying you'd be to suddenly pull put in front of people so they all have to slow down. It's dangerous. Why don't you slow down to those other people rather than pull out? They are to you, what you are to them. You're meant to apply common sense, not blindly follow the law. That's why it's called common law.

The danger is those that are speeding - just don't Don't try and justify speeding and breaking the law with "common sense"

Fluffyunicorn1 · 16/08/2024 11:35

Itsjustmeheretoday · 16/08/2024 11:31

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Think about this if you were walking on a footpath, and how annoying you'd be to suddenly pull put in front of people so they all have to slow down. It's dangerous. Why don't you slow down to those other people rather than pull out? They are to you, what you are to them. You're meant to apply common sense, not blindly follow the law. That's why it's called common law.

This doesn't make any sense though? Nowhere did the OP say she just pulls out in front of people. If you are overtaking you look first to make sure it is safe to do so and then pull into the lane. So if it is safe to do so and you pull into the lane, overtake without breaking the speed limit and pull back to the left, you have completed the maneuver correctly. If you are flying up the "fast lane" at more than 70MPH then you are speeding

FigTreeInEurope · 16/08/2024 11:34

You are completely correct OP. The fact that people call it the fast lane, and are indignant that anyone in it is going under 90 mph, says a lot. I was a bit of a zoomer, until i moved to Southern Italy. No one gives a flying fuck here about the rules of the road, and i have seen so many crashes, multiple deaths, including a child being thrown through a windscreen. Everyone needs to grow up, and slow down.

MikeRafone · 16/08/2024 11:33

WonderingWanda · 16/08/2024 11:30

I'm not condoning speeding op but have you ever driven one of those larger cars. They really don't feel like they are moving that fast so it is very easy for the speed to creep up. The road handling is significantly different to a little light car like a fiesta too.

Ive driven a 4 liter lexus and a 1.1 UP obviously there is a difference in handling and power - still doesn't mean you should break the law. Added to which the UP doesn't have cruise control and the luxury cars do and can be set at 70mph

Idontjetwashthefucker · 16/08/2024 11:33

Itsjustmeheretoday · 16/08/2024 11:31

🤦‍♀️
Think about this if you were walking on a footpath, and how annoying you'd be to suddenly pull put in front of people so they all have to slow down. It's dangerous. Why don't you slow down to those other people rather than pull out? They are to you, what you are to them. You're meant to apply common sense, not blindly follow the law. That's why it's called common law.

OP is overtaking slower traffic, she doesn't need to go over 70 mph to do this, if she's getting in the way of others at 70mph then OP isn't the problem here, it's those speeding

Itsjustmeheretoday · 16/08/2024 11:31

AngeloMysterioso · 16/08/2024 11:28

If I’m overtaking slower vehicles to my left then I am driving with the flow of traffic.

🤦‍♀️
Think about this if you were walking on a footpath, and how annoying you'd be to suddenly pull put in front of people so they all have to slow down. It's dangerous. Why don't you slow down to those other people rather than pull out? They are to you, what you are to them. You're meant to apply common sense, not blindly follow the law. That's why it's called common law.

MikeRafone · 16/08/2024 11:31

Itsjustmeheretoday · 16/08/2024 10:56

You're dangerous if you aren't keeping to the left OP! If you're going to be slow, get put of the way

Thats not how it works - lane 3 is for overtaking vehicles in lane 2 not speeding

taxguru · 16/08/2024 11:30

@CantHoldMeDown

Where I live the majority of people drive far too slowly, are hesitant, have poor lane discipline and observation. I want those people behind me, not in front of me.

I fully agree. Fast drivers usually aren't the problem. At least they're usually concentrating on the road and have roadworthy cars.

The real problem are the ditherers, the hesitants, the oblivious and the incompetent. Those who don't stay in lane 1 except actively overtaking (middle land hoggers in particular need a special place in hell!). Those who don't know the road rules/laws and dither/hesitate or just do the completely wrong thing. Those doing 30 in a 20 limit and carry on doing 30 when it changes to 40 or 50 (oblivious). Those who don't get in right lanes at roundabouts and junctions because they don't look at road signs and road markings and then swerve across traffic without shoulder check/mirror check to the right lane at the last minutes. Also the ever increasing number of drivers without valid licences, i.e. foreign drivers who've not got UK licences despite living here for years, people just without licences at all, people who got relatives/friends to take their driving tests for them (look alikes!).

So many other types of dangerous drivers are a much bigger problem than competent drivers going a bit over the limit when conditions suggest it's not dangerous to do so!

As you say, I want the dangerous/incompetents behind me where they can't harm me than in front of me where they can!

WonderingWanda · 16/08/2024 11:30

I'm not condoning speeding op but have you ever driven one of those larger cars. They really don't feel like they are moving that fast so it is very easy for the speed to creep up. The road handling is significantly different to a little light car like a fiesta too.