Friends with camper vans needing lifts...

I loved her response as well 😂

YANBU. I don't think most people mind helping out someone as a one off. But in both situations you describe they are "intentionally carless"! Stick to you guns, you it's ridiculous they did this to themselves. Mrs Motorhome needs to learn to drive it properly so it doesn't seem "inconvenient" or get a smaller car. The Romahome needs to learn that old vehicles fall apart and that's the reason they are cheaper. Their decisions are nothing to do with you.

Mrs Motorhome has access to another car so should speak to her partner to make sure she can use it when required. Complete piss take otherwise. Honestly some people.

£80k moho will depreciate faster than what she will spend money on taxis anyway. Not counting tax and insurance etc
Well thought out re running costs of moho and savings on normal car and hotels. Vanity purchase...

How is this on you and not her husband?! What a CF.

Motherfucker

That is so out of order. Where these people get the notion that they can have a luxurious motorhome and someone else will pay their way for not using a car now for something so ridiculously unimportant as tai chi

@SchadenfreudeIstMeinMittelname
Sorry, what is mofo?

Of course YANBU.
It's not your responsibility to routinely pick someone up, especially when it's well out of your way.

How about

'We really want to go on a touring holiday. It is all so awkward, but we don't want to waste money on a motorhome. Unless you lend us yours, I really don't think we will be able to go and I feel awful as DC SO looking forward to it :( "

I would give her a lift if she came to your house and then got dropped off after the class at the same place. Expecting you to go out of your way is such entitled behaviour.

Well done OP. Too many CFs out there who get away with it because a lot of people don't like potential conflict.

I'm tempted to get one just so that I can say 'my moho is a total mofo'.

Sounds like its something for her to sort out with her husband?! Not you?! It's not your problem to resolve. I'm suprised she didn't offer you a fiver each time, to cover petrol expenses. That's still cheaper than a taxi! I'm sure she wouldn't enjoy going 30 minutes out of her way, everytime going to and from class.

I perhaps wouldn’t have answered in quite the same way but very cheeky and manipulative of her indeed to put the responsibility of whether she goes to the class on you! Especially when she was presumably part of the decision to get rid of her car. Own your own mistakes people!

There are so many ways that she could have tackled this differently. By proposing that she pays you money to cover the cost and inconvenience of you going out of your way, or bartering with doing a bag of ironing a fortnight or an equivalent service, or as others have said, free use of the camper van.

Someone I know makes all the home made healthy muffins and snack bars for dc lunch boxes for her friend who drives her to tennis weekly - a longer distance than 15 mins - the arrangement works well.

Op you should not be the first person on the list of those she inconveniences! Your friend should be working this out with her dh so they alternate who gets firsts dibs at the car on different nights of the week. They need to sort this out between themselves and not involve you!

I salute you OP @Dygger

YANBU OP

It's to ask for favours from them to time but people have willingly given up their vehicles and expect someone else to put themselves out for you. She doesn't want to pay petrol but it's okay to double your journey time and use double the amount of petrol. It's not even just that. J wouldn't want the burden of the responsibility.

I love your response! She is being a CF

Alternative? Bike, e-bike, e-scooter, taxi, bus, walk

Oh great reply OP!

I just can't imagine asking someone to drive 15 mins in the wrong direction (twice) to give me a lift somewhere to save a taxi fare, under her circumstances. The fact that she is now trying to pile on the guilt too is really revealing to the type of person she is. If she can't work out that asking you for 40 minutes of your time & more than doubling your fuel costs (and wear and tear on car) to get to and from your class to save her money is CF by retirement age then...definitely not the kind of person who would make it from acquaintance to friend. Grim entitlement.

She replied that it was all so awkward, but she didn't want to waste money on taxis — to which I responded by saying 'I noticed.' She hasn't responded. AIBU?

Great response OP! No, not unreasonable at all.

Wild camping is a whole different thread!

Very much a thing nowadays and since lockdown a whole new breed of people decided to get a moho or camper and just pitch up anywhere that takes their fancy. FB groups & apps are used to share this information and then they get stroppy when councils listen to complaints from locals and clamp down on it.
This is a common threads amongst mohomers.☹️
Pubstops are less controversial, with the landlords permission (usually if you eat & drink in the pub) you can stop overnight in their carpark.

I can honestly say that in all our decades of moho ownership we have never wild camped or pub stopped once, much prefer a nice quiet site somewhere.👍
Yes campsites cost (anything from £15-£45/night) but when you spend upwards of £100k on a moho why park up for the night in some grotty layby or carpark?

They should have thought about the practicalities of a camper van before buying it!

We were very close to buying one a couple of years ago, but it was the practicalities than meant we ended up walking away. We realised it would be a pain in the neck for local driving, it would be a pain parked in our drive, we'd effectively be down to just one car for "normal" driving, i.e. commuting, shopping, etc., so we went with head rather than heart and didn't buy it.

Shame really, if we had space to park 2 cars and a camper van, we'd have probably gone for it, but lack of parking combined with insurance and vehicle tax for 3 vehicles, plus 3 vehicles of repairs/servicing, etc., it just wasn't worth it for us.

Shame the OPs friend didn't engage brain before buying!

You weren’t cheeky at all OP, that was a brilliant comment. Well done you for showing her what she is….