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Friends with camper vans needing lifts...

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Dygger · 16/08/2024 10:22

I've been going to tai chi classes for a couple of years and made friends there with a woman who lives about 15 minutes away from me. Last year she and her partner retired. They'd had two cars and they sold one to buy a big, shiny new motorhome. Shortly after that she started phoning me asking me to give her a lift to t'ai chi because her partner needed the car to go to something he was doing. The first couple of times I just did it, but it became a regular expectation. It's a pain because she lives 15 minutes away from me in the wrong direction. So instead of a 15-minute drive from my house to the tai chi class, she wants me to drive 15 minutes to her and then 20 minutes to the class. And all because their shiny new £80k motorhome is too big and too inconvenient to use as a vehicle for everyday things.

Another friend, on a tight budget, sold her reliable 8-year-old Skoda Yeti that has never given her trouble and bought a 22-year-old little Romahome camper van which she planned to use as an everyday vehicle. Except that because it's 22 years old it's always got things going wrong with it. Practically every month she's owned it it's needed work doing — and because it's old, it can take a while to get parts. So she's off the road for weeks at a time and looks to me — and others as well — for lifts. I think she's got nervous of what might go wrong with the Romahome next, so tries not to use it unless she's going away for a weekend in it.

I've said no to them both on a few occasions in the last few months and I suspect they are both quite pissed off with me because I'm not being more helpful. Mrs Motorhome in particular. We have to finalise and pay for the new term's tai chi sessions starting in September. Yesterday she contacted me to say that unless I agreed to pick her up and take her home again when she doesn't have access to the car she doesn't want to waste money on booking sessions she won't be able to use. I responded by saying I couldn't promise anything. She replied that it was all so awkward, but she didn't want to waste money on taxis — to which I responded by saying 'I noticed.' She hasn't responded. AIBU?

OP posts:
gemsgv · 16/08/2024 13:25

I've had similar with motorbike owners. Yes, they have transport but there's nowhere to store the helmet, it's not worth getting all the gear on and off and on and off again to go 15 minutes, might get stolen, can't wear nice clothes etc etc. much easier (for them) for me to give them a lift

BlackShuck3 · 16/08/2024 13:23

If she does come back to you op just say you're very sorry but you're not able to waste money on petrol to drive other people around.

Allwelcone · 16/08/2024 13:23

ICantLogIn · 16/08/2024 10:48

I think you are missing a trick here. Point out how often she's used your car, and borrow her campervan for a weekend!

This!

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 16/08/2024 13:23

Incidentally, how would she react if you demanded to borrow their motorhome every time you wanted to go away, as "We don't want to waste money on hotels or holiday lets"?!

As PP said, it's only wasting money on taxis if you're getting one rather than bothering to walk for 5 minutes (if able-bodied) or forgetting to get your own car MoT'd in time etc. If you need a car for a trip and you don't have a car of your own, how is it a waste to hire one (with a driver)?

When I saw the thread title, I thought it was going to be about the kind of people who buy motorhomes for simplicity of travelling on holiday, but then expect the caravanners and campers to give them a lift into town or to the supermarket every day, as it's an enormous faff having to pack everything down and drive there in the moho.

It's just pure stupidity to swap an everyday runabout car for something that can't fulfil the same purpose, and then be surprised that you can't get around as easily or flexibly anymore.

TruthorDie · 16/08/2024 13:20

YANBU they are CF. Loving the comment about you noticing!

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 16/08/2024 13:14

Camper vans are great, but need a lot of research first. Buying a 22-year old van is daft.

Not necessarily, as long as you check it out very thoroughly before buying. Some camper vans twice that age still go for a lot of money - largely because they're often only used for two or three weeks a year, so they have a very low mileage and minimal wear.

BlackShuck3 · 16/08/2024 13:13

You don't need to do anything else op, just leave her twisting in the wind and carry on enjoying your Tai chi 😎

muddyford · 16/08/2024 13:13

Fifteen minutes by car, depending on the type of road, could be as little as a half an hour by bicycle. She'd get a nice warm-up enroute.

GinAndGooseberries · 16/08/2024 13:09

She doesn't want to waste money on taxi but OK to waste your time every week

CowTown · 16/08/2024 13:07

We’re down to one car temporarily. In the meantime, if DH has the car and I need it too, the person going the shortest distance orders an Uber. I don’t CF rides off of people. 🙄

Izzynohopanda · 16/08/2024 13:07

Only read the op, but well done!! If they want a taxi, they can pay for it (and why can’t Mrs motorhome husband give her lifts!)

aSpanielintheworks · 16/08/2024 13:06

I'll do anything to help anyone until it becomes expected, and then it really irritates me.
When DD was born I had a friend I met at a baby group, her work was walking distance so she didn't have a car. I offered a few timed to pick her up and I genuinely didn't mind until she started to be closer to other people in the group. This was fine, but she'd still message me, use me for a lift, then disappear off.
Sometimes it was on my way. More often it was not.
It came to a natural end as we all filtered back to work but I'm annoyed with myself even now, years later, that I was used, especially as we lost touch not long after, so I seemed to mean very little to her anyway!

MrsSunshine2b · 16/08/2024 13:02

YANBU. I don't drive and we only have one car, so if I need to be somewhere not accessible by public transport, I organise it with my husband to make sure he's free and can take me, or I don't go. If someone offers me a lift I'm very grateful for that but I don't organise my social life expecting others to facilitate me getting there.

WonderingWanda · 16/08/2024 12:58

Total CF's!!! Love your responses op!

OssieShowman · 16/08/2024 12:54

Tell her … if she can get herself to yours, happy to give her a lift.
she only need to pay taxi halfway.
Not likely going to happen, I think.

WearyAuldWumman · 16/08/2024 12:50

I have a 28 yr old Bongo. I use it for everything. Your response is reasonable.

eggsandbaconeveryday · 16/08/2024 12:50

I think I would be inclined to say that if CF NEEDS a lift then it will come at a cost to her financially. Why should you pick up the cost? Tell her the lift is putting you out and that you can't afford the cost so if she needs a lift on the odd occasion it will be £10 to cover your time, fuel and extra wear and tear of your vehicle.

ChampagneLassie · 16/08/2024 12:48

I can’t believe someone would have the cheek to ask someone to drive out of their way for an exercise class friend regularly. Just be clear on your boundaries, no need to comment on their choices. Ie sorry it’s a massive bind I don’t have time.

kitsuneghost · 16/08/2024 12:46

moho belongs in the bin with spag bol and platty jubes

LookItsMeAgain · 16/08/2024 12:42

NBU - I'm surprised that it's taken you this long to mention something.
Why can't she get herself an eBike if the motor home isn't working out for her to go and do local trips?

Could you do the trip from her house to the venue in a taxi (just do it the once) so that you know how much to charge her for the trip if you decide to offer her a lift? Is there any reason she can't make her way to your home first and you just leave from there instead (again, only relevant if you want to offer her a lift in the first place).

I'd have to say "Look, Mildred, I am not a taxi. If I give you a lift it adds x time to my busy day and I just can't keep doing that. If you want to do tai chi you'll have to find your own way to the venue as I can't be expected to bring you. I'm sorry that you're finding having a motor home and no car difficult but that seems more like a you issue to fix and not a me issue to fix for you. Hope you'll be able to make the next term but I'll understand if you can't."

DefyingGravitas · 16/08/2024 12:35

Trickabrick · 16/08/2024 10:52

Nothing useful to add but I’m loving the use of Moho, I’ve not heard that before 😂

CF is Moho Mofo

Fathomless · 16/08/2024 12:35

Dygger · 16/08/2024 12:24

Tai chi is really important to me. It's hugely helped my flexibility and balance and is a really good form of exercise. Don't go dissing tai chi, please.

I think that poster was being tongue in cheek, as in that's what your cheeky friend's thought process probably is

Sallyball · 16/08/2024 12:35

I would reply ‘happy to give lifts but tight on time that evening so if you can meet at my place we can go from there x x ‘

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 16/08/2024 12:31

The friend with the rickety Romahome is a bit different — doesn't have much dosh to play with — so I try to be more gentle with her

Unfortunately, this has been an expensive and unwise investment. It's kind of you to be gentle but unless you strongly drove her decision to do this, it's not your responsibility to rescue her from the consequences of that decision.

RobinEllacotStrike · 16/08/2024 12:29

"I noticed" 😁👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Bravo OP, bravo!