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Friends with camper vans needing lifts...

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Dygger · 16/08/2024 10:22

I've been going to tai chi classes for a couple of years and made friends there with a woman who lives about 15 minutes away from me. Last year she and her partner retired. They'd had two cars and they sold one to buy a big, shiny new motorhome. Shortly after that she started phoning me asking me to give her a lift to t'ai chi because her partner needed the car to go to something he was doing. The first couple of times I just did it, but it became a regular expectation. It's a pain because she lives 15 minutes away from me in the wrong direction. So instead of a 15-minute drive from my house to the tai chi class, she wants me to drive 15 minutes to her and then 20 minutes to the class. And all because their shiny new £80k motorhome is too big and too inconvenient to use as a vehicle for everyday things.

Another friend, on a tight budget, sold her reliable 8-year-old Skoda Yeti that has never given her trouble and bought a 22-year-old little Romahome camper van which she planned to use as an everyday vehicle. Except that because it's 22 years old it's always got things going wrong with it. Practically every month she's owned it it's needed work doing — and because it's old, it can take a while to get parts. So she's off the road for weeks at a time and looks to me — and others as well — for lifts. I think she's got nervous of what might go wrong with the Romahome next, so tries not to use it unless she's going away for a weekend in it.

I've said no to them both on a few occasions in the last few months and I suspect they are both quite pissed off with me because I'm not being more helpful. Mrs Motorhome in particular. We have to finalise and pay for the new term's tai chi sessions starting in September. Yesterday she contacted me to say that unless I agreed to pick her up and take her home again when she doesn't have access to the car she doesn't want to waste money on booking sessions she won't be able to use. I responded by saying I couldn't promise anything. She replied that it was all so awkward, but she didn't want to waste money on taxis — to which I responded by saying 'I noticed.' She hasn't responded. AIBU?

OP posts:
dbeuowlxb173939 · 16/08/2024 15:12

YANBU if she's 15 minutes away from you and she wants a lift there and back that's an hour extra to your journey every time!! Don't know how she's got the nerve, that's a right cheek!
I would have said I can't commit to every week too

Runsyd · 16/08/2024 15:02

Chef's kiss for your 'I noticed' response. Just keep holding up that mirror so they can check out their rampant cheeky fuckery.

IVbumble · 16/08/2024 14:58

RichmondReader · 16/08/2024 12:23

Motherfucker

😂

Zahariel · 16/08/2024 14:41

WTF is wrong with you for even asking these things? Of course you're not a taxi, they don't like it, that's on them, not you!

Nourishinghandcream · 16/08/2024 14:41

"When I saw the thread title, I thought it was going to be about the kind of people who buy motorhomes for simplicity of travelling on holiday, but then expect the caravanners and campers to give them a lift into town or to the supermarket every day, as it's an enormous faff having to pack everything down and drive there in the moho."

@TheHangingGardensOfBasildon
Have you actually come across this?
I have admit that in all our decades (old, I know☹️) we have never seen or heard it.
We have a moderately large moho but when we want to move to go somewhere it only takes a few minutes to square away anything on the sides, unplug the EHU, wind in the awning and put the wheels on the ground. Anything outside (table, chairs, bikes, rug, dog pen etc stay in situ ready (locked together) for when we get back (never had anything pinched either).

Hummingbirdie · 16/08/2024 14:38

Good for you OP. I would be tempted to say how about you sell the motor home and buy a car and then you can have your classes back again? Wouldn’t that be great

MeridianB · 16/08/2024 14:25

PS Do I understand it right that you are driving for an hour each week to collect and drop her off? (15 min in wrong direction there and back twice)? Not to mention your time. And not a murmur of petrol costs or a thank you gift? Wow!

Vannymam · 16/08/2024 14:24

LookItsMeAgain · 16/08/2024 12:42

NBU - I'm surprised that it's taken you this long to mention something.
Why can't she get herself an eBike if the motor home isn't working out for her to go and do local trips?

Could you do the trip from her house to the venue in a taxi (just do it the once) so that you know how much to charge her for the trip if you decide to offer her a lift? Is there any reason she can't make her way to your home first and you just leave from there instead (again, only relevant if you want to offer her a lift in the first place).

I'd have to say "Look, Mildred, I am not a taxi. If I give you a lift it adds x time to my busy day and I just can't keep doing that. If you want to do tai chi you'll have to find your own way to the venue as I can't be expected to bring you. I'm sorry that you're finding having a motor home and no car difficult but that seems more like a you issue to fix and not a me issue to fix for you. Hope you'll be able to make the next term but I'll understand if you can't."

The bit about the e-bike is spot-on. I have a campervan but bought one small enough to run around in as DH needs our car for work.

If I don't fancy driving the van, I cycle or take the bus.

MeridianB · 16/08/2024 14:23

You are in the right, OP. Stick to your guns. They both sound cheeky and lacking in self awareness, esp the first one. I'd upgrade your 'can't promise anything' to a hard 'no' if she persists.

ImaginaryCat · 16/08/2024 14:16

I'd have been more pissed off about the time than the money. You can always ask her for petrol money but you can't get back that hour of your week that you're giving up to be her chauffeur (assume the lifts are drop and pick up, so half hour round trip each way... that amount of time adds up!).

BMW6 · 16/08/2024 14:11

OP it really, REALLY isn't you that's been Cheeky!

Your response was absolutely PERFECT.

The bloody nerve of her!

tuttuttutt · 16/08/2024 14:10

Your reply was great, definitely stick to your guns!

BlackShuck3 · 16/08/2024 14:05

"I wish I could give you a lift but the problem is it means wasting £x of my money and half an hour of my time.
What a coincidence, we both have the same problem that we don't want to waste our money, I can't see a solution can you?"

Shinyandnew1 · 16/08/2024 13:56

she didn't want to waste money on taxis

But you are happy to tell me to waste my time and money on your behalf, so you can avoid doing this?

Thursdaygirl · 16/08/2024 13:55

This would infuriate me. A class which is nearby and convenient suddenly becomes a far larger undertaking if you're going so far out of your way. It amazes me that the MoHo lady is so lacking in self-awareness.

keepitcalm · 16/08/2024 13:55

To me a motorhome (or MoHo as I will call them from henceforth!) is a bigger, less wieldy beast than a campervan. Campervans are smaller and much more usable in every day life. When you buy a 'MoHo' you should be aware they can't be a proper second vehicle if they don't fit in most parking bays, won't go under 2m max headroom barriers and need everything secured before you can move off. I imagine it's just too much hassle for CF #1. Tough doo doo.

Rinkko · 16/08/2024 13:47

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 16/08/2024 12:31

The friend with the rickety Romahome is a bit different — doesn't have much dosh to play with — so I try to be more gentle with her

Unfortunately, this has been an expensive and unwise investment. It's kind of you to be gentle but unless you strongly drove her decision to do this, it's not your responsibility to rescue her from the consequences of that decision.

Yes, if this is the kind of decision she makes then unfortunately I can see why she doesn't have much dosh to play with.

Fathomless · 16/08/2024 13:44

Anyone else getting this ad 😂?

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Coconutter24 · 16/08/2024 13:42

YANBU. I’d of also pointed out that whilst she’s wanting to not waste money on taxis, fuel isn’t free so it’s costing you more in money and time

Monkeysatonthewall · 16/08/2024 13:40

Dygger · 16/08/2024 11:16

Of course not. She says thank you and that she really appreciates me helping her out, but no — no gestures of thanks. And of course she appreciates me helping her out and saving her taxi money! There's no way in the world I'd ever be allowed to use their camper van. I've only been allowed in it, briefly, to admire its wonders. I'm pretty sure he's the only one who drives it.

I absolutely cannot fathom how entitled someone has to be to expect you to add 30 mins to your journey each time and not when offer any petrol money!

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 16/08/2024 13:34

Usually, not wasting money on something you see as frivolous means that you simply do without it - not just find an alternative that somebody can waste their money (and time) on, so that you still get all the same benefits yourself anyway.

Zanatdy · 16/08/2024 13:34

I always give lifts, but 15 mins out of the way, I wouldn’t be impressed, especially since there’s never been any petrol money or bunch of flowers. People take the P. My dad (god rest his gentle soul) was such a kind man and became known as ‘Roy’s taxi’s’. People began to take advantage, as usually happens. One neighbour offered to take my parents for a Carvery to say thanks for numerous lifts to the station (30 min round trip). My mum said as my dad had 2 pints of bitter as he wasn’t driving for once, my mum said shall we pay half when the bill came (which was less than £30). Oh yes please came the answer! I even mentioned his nickname in my eulogy, shame that same neighbour had got lost on the way to the crem so didn’t show up! Not that it was an attack on her, but she might have thought oh yes that was me he gave lifts too. He wouldn’t say no, much to my mums anger, but he was a nice person and people take advantage of nice people.

CautiousLurker · 16/08/2024 13:31

takealettermsjones · 16/08/2024 10:25

YANBU and your responses have been completely fair imo. Stick to your guns.

So you are wasting an hour of your evening every week, plus fuel and wear and tear on the car, to facilitate her attending? That would be a big fat no. She needs to tell her husband to organise his life so that she can use her car.

CF

easylikeasundaymorn · 16/08/2024 13:30

15 minutes in the opposite direction works out as an hour extra per journey doesn't it? So 1hr40 driving time in total per class? Of course you wouldn't do that just for the dubious benefit of her company! How cheeky of her to think it's better to put you out than ask her own husband to use their car or pay for a taxi!

Caroparo52 · 16/08/2024 13:26

Love your I noticed reply.... nope why should you.. ?