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My partner isn't helping out enough

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Coz97 · 16/08/2024 07:29

So I've been with my partner for 7 years now and we have a 6 month old together. I know he loves us both. He tells me every day. And there's not a day that goes by that he doesn't hug and kiss me. However, since having a baby, it's put some strain on our relationship because I feel like he doesn't do his fair share. When I confront him about this, he says that he feels like he is helping out and he claims he's given up a lot. Hmm not sure about that. He usually plays tennis for a few hours a week and he enjoys playing computer games too. Yes, he works 50 hours a week but that's not an excuse not to be more helpful with our baby. He doesn't play with her much because he says she gets bored easily (she does, but a few minutes here and there doesn't hurt), he passes her to me when she cries quite often, I have to tell him to do things and even then sometimes he sighs or complains that he was about to do something else. He expects far too much from me. I'll be starting work in September for 15 hours a week and he will look after he for 3 hours a day when I'm working, so he will be forced to spend more time with her. Anyway, I'm worried our relationship won't survive if he doesn't start helping out more and spending more quality time with both of us. But my attempts to get him to listen fall on deaf ears. Not sure what else to try...

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Coz97 · 23/08/2024 12:25

Bumblebeestiltskin · 23/08/2024 12:00

He's not 'helping' - it's his child, his house, his relationship.

Fine.. he's "parenting" and pulling his weight more.

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Bumblebeestiltskin · 23/08/2024 12:00

Coz97 · 23/08/2024 10:58

Just wanted to share an update: partner is helping out a lot more now which is great. We're continuing to work on things and I'm happy with how it's going :)

He's not 'helping' - it's his child, his house, his relationship.

pinkyredrose · 23/08/2024 11:49

That's good Op, I'm glad he's 'helping' with his own house and baby.

Coz97 · 23/08/2024 10:58

Just wanted to share an update: partner is helping out a lot more now which is great. We're continuing to work on things and I'm happy with how it's going :)

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Shinyandnew1 · 16/08/2024 13:09

Worse case scenario, would I not be entitled to any kind of benefits?

Possibly, but going part time is again leaving you very vulnerable, meanwhile your husband works full time, pays off his house and pays into his pension!

When I confront him about this, he says that he feels like he is helping out and he claims he's given up a lot.

Sadly, it doesn’t sound like this man has your best interest at heart but his own and you haven’t got much left to bargain with. I feel sorry for you-I hope things turn out ok.

IdaClair · 16/08/2024 12:59

Bumpingaround · 16/08/2024 07:45

Does your baby take a bottle?
You need to start doing some hobbies

I agree with most of what you’ve said but this is also problematic, I feel. Dad’s who don’t play their part, when pulled up on their lack of time and effort, will say, “You can go out then”, “ok, fine, I’ll look after the baby while you go swimming/gym”, “I will look after the baby while you’re not here”. That’s not what the OP wants, she wants a partner that is sharing the responsibility of parenting with her.

I see similar advice given often, I didn’t want to go out much when my baby was the same age as OPs (I’m not saying that mothers that do are wrong it was just my preference), and it shouldn’t be that mums are advised to spend time away from their babies as a way to make their partners do more. If OPs baby is breastfed and doesn’t take bottles, I wouldn’t encourage her to change how she feeds her baby as a way to get the Dad to do more. It’s not necessary and further plays into the assumption that Dads can’t do anything to look after a breastfed baby and have to leave it all to Mum, which isn’t true at all.

You are right it isn’t about feeding method. I went back to work when my baby was 5 weeks old and her Dad cared for her full time every day, and she was breastfed. There is more to parenting than feeding the baby. And I pulled my weight including all through each night because that’s what has to be done when you have a child.

Coz97 · 16/08/2024 12:50

Thanks for some of these comments, they were helpful. Unfortunately, some of these comments were rude and judgemental (guess I should have expected that, eh?). So I won't be responding to any more comments. Thanks!

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Mrsttcno1 · 16/08/2024 12:50

Coz97 · 16/08/2024 12:48

How would I even bring the topic up, though? "Let's get married quick so I have some protection in case you kick me out or the relationship crumbles" I don't think that would go down well.. so I feel a bit stuck!

You can bring up the topic of marriage, but to be honest I wouldn’t be if I was you. You’re already having doubts, and you’d have to be married 5+ years before you get half of anything anyway as anything less is a short marriage.

You need to be proactive yourself, ensure you’re in a position where if/when you split, you can fully support yourself and your child. So work full time, start saving an escape fund for rent deposit/house deposit, start paying into your own pension full time etc.

Coz97 · 16/08/2024 12:49

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I always felt like marriage was on the cards regardless, so in my head it didn't matter which order. It's easy to judge others when you're not in their shoes.

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Coz97 · 16/08/2024 12:48

pikkumyy77 · 16/08/2024 12:31

A) If he “works 50 hours a week” then you do too, literally, as you are caring fir your joint child for the same 50 hours.

B) Marriage protects you and your child as it gives you, the prime caregiver, slightly more financial security with respect to his assets which are the only assets in the relationship. Important assets are house, car, pension, decision making ability in the case of illness or incapacity.

You and your child are extremely vulnerable to any change in his temper, tolerance, future plans. You need to become financially independent as soon as possible. Or have a registry marriage and be put on the deed to the house. Or both.

C)

How would I even bring the topic up, though? "Let's get married quick so I have some protection in case you kick me out or the relationship crumbles" I don't think that would go down well.. so I feel a bit stuck!

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Mrsttcno1 · 16/08/2024 12:34

Coz97 · 16/08/2024 12:29

Worse case scenario, would I not be entitled to any kind of benefits? I'm obviously going to work hard on my relationship and try to come to a healthy arrangement.

Possibly, but do you really want to put yourself in a position where you’re relying on benefits to keep you and your child fed and clothed with a roof over your head?

pikkumyy77 · 16/08/2024 12:31

A) If he “works 50 hours a week” then you do too, literally, as you are caring fir your joint child for the same 50 hours.

B) Marriage protects you and your child as it gives you, the prime caregiver, slightly more financial security with respect to his assets which are the only assets in the relationship. Important assets are house, car, pension, decision making ability in the case of illness or incapacity.

You and your child are extremely vulnerable to any change in his temper, tolerance, future plans. You need to become financially independent as soon as possible. Or have a registry marriage and be put on the deed to the house. Or both.

C)

Coz97 · 16/08/2024 12:29

Mrsttcno1 · 16/08/2024 12:26

I’m sorry OP but I agree with other posters that you’re putting yourself in an extremely vulnerable position not working full time when not married, and when the house is his.

I understand not wanting to be away from your baby 40 hours a week, nobody WANTS to be, but if your relationship breaks down then you’re going to find yourself with no home, no rights to any of the house you live in now, no access to his pension/savings, and only a part time income to try and fund 100% of yours and your child’s life with only a CMS contribution from him.

Worse case scenario, would I not be entitled to any kind of benefits? I'm obviously going to work hard on my relationship and try to come to a healthy arrangement.

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Mrsttcno1 · 16/08/2024 12:26

I’m sorry OP but I agree with other posters that you’re putting yourself in an extremely vulnerable position not working full time when not married, and when the house is his.

I understand not wanting to be away from your baby 40 hours a week, nobody WANTS to be, but if your relationship breaks down then you’re going to find yourself with no home, no rights to any of the house you live in now, no access to his pension/savings, and only a part time income to try and fund 100% of yours and your child’s life with only a CMS contribution from him.

Coz97 · 16/08/2024 12:22

QforCucumber · 16/08/2024 10:45

but you had a baby with him? That's a bigger commitment than marriage, and you need to protect your future. The way things are he could kick you out tomorrow with nothing, no home, no money, only 15 hours a week to fund it.

I get that, but he wouldn't, not in a million years. And besides, he doesn't want to get married right now due to finances and he wants our baby to be a little bit older first. What then?

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Coz97 · 16/08/2024 12:20

Carebearsonmybed · 16/08/2024 11:21

You either work full time or get married.

If you don't messes like this happen.

It's really not that simple though. If neither one is an option, what then?

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Coz97 · 16/08/2024 12:19

Shinyandnew1 · 16/08/2024 10:51

Exactly! You are more than happy to tie yourself to someone by having a baby and becoming completely financially dependent on them, but not happy to get married to give yourself the tiniest bit of protection in case he decides to split up with you?! I find this bizarre.

Does it not bother you that you will be working part time so that he can stay full time and build up his own pension and pay for his house, neither of which you will have any claim to whatsoever?!

The plan was always to get married. I'm just saying that due to recent events I was a little bit ok the fence because if he didn't step up, I'm not sure I'd want to continue the relationship. I'm not even sure we can afford to get married at the moment unless we have a very simple registry office wedding and nothing else (which I'm not opposed to, but I know my partner is happy to wait a few more years). I can't force him to marry me faster anyway. So unfortunately my hands are tied..

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Carebearsonmybed · 16/08/2024 11:21

You either work full time or get married.

If you don't messes like this happen.

SJM1988 · 16/08/2024 11:12

I think you need to sit down and work out what exactly you want your partner to be doing in 'helping out'
Looking after his child is not helping out it is parenting so you need to change that phrasing I think.
Do you expect him to cook/clean/life admin/ child activities etc?

There will be differences between what each of you do esp if you work 15 hours and he works 50.

I work less hours than my DH (although not a lot less). I do school runs because of my hours, we split activities for our eldest 50/50 and we take a child each at the weekend to activities (50/50 again). Cleaning/cooking/life admin comes down to me mainly because I am physically in the house more and have the time to do the shopping etc.
Hobbies - we split our 'free' days between us 50/50 - I do early morning gym sessions on my days, he does evening gym classes on his days. (2 days each a week)
To be fair, I did everything when I was on maternity leave though bar one bottle at like 10pm at night which DH did so I could get some sleep. When I went back to work we had a big sit down, worked out what needed doing and who was going to do it. We were both on the same page then when I went back to work. My DH freely admits it actually helped him understand what needs doing etc and stopped any arguing (well most of the arguing )

BurbageBrook · 16/08/2024 11:10

Totally agree @Bumpingaround. My baby being EBF didn't stop my DH taking an equal role. Granted I obviously did more of the night wake ups. But he did more of the nappies, pre feed bedtime routine, bath every night, etc.

Shinyandnew1 · 16/08/2024 10:51

QforCucumber · 16/08/2024 10:45

but you had a baby with him? That's a bigger commitment than marriage, and you need to protect your future. The way things are he could kick you out tomorrow with nothing, no home, no money, only 15 hours a week to fund it.

Exactly! You are more than happy to tie yourself to someone by having a baby and becoming completely financially dependent on them, but not happy to get married to give yourself the tiniest bit of protection in case he decides to split up with you?! I find this bizarre.

Does it not bother you that you will be working part time so that he can stay full time and build up his own pension and pay for his house, neither of which you will have any claim to whatsoever?!

QforCucumber · 16/08/2024 10:45

Coz97 · 16/08/2024 10:39

We're engaged but with how things have been recently I haven't wanted to jump the gun and get married just yet

but you had a baby with him? That's a bigger commitment than marriage, and you need to protect your future. The way things are he could kick you out tomorrow with nothing, no home, no money, only 15 hours a week to fund it.

Coz97 · 16/08/2024 10:39

Shinyandnew1 · 16/08/2024 10:35

Be very careful-you have left yourself finically vulnerable both with your job, your housing and your pension.

I would be looking at getting married asap if you are going part time to look after your joint child.

We're engaged but with how things have been recently I haven't wanted to jump the gun and get married just yet

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Shinyandnew1 · 16/08/2024 10:35

Coz97 · 16/08/2024 10:22

Nope, house is in his name. Going full time isn't really an option because I wouldn't be able to get childcare for the rest of those hours. Plus, I don't want to be apart from my baby for 40 hours a week, not right now

Be very careful-you have left yourself finically vulnerable both with your job, your housing and your pension.

I would be looking at getting married asap if you are going part time to look after your joint child.

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