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Anyone else worried about M pox?

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girlfriend44 · 15/08/2024 21:32

It's been in the news today. Monkey Pox or M pox is spreading they have found a case in Sweden now and hinted it could spread more.
Anyone worried or is it scare mongering.

It seems to be in the news again?😪

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ladyintherain · 23/08/2024 08:47

I've just seen this which is reassuring

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/22/new-mpox-variant-deadly-complacency-covid

ladyintherain · 22/08/2024 08:28

There's a cargo ship in Argentina been quarantined. Maybe it will be like that

GRex · 22/08/2024 07:37

Nadeed · 21/08/2024 17:59

If MPox does affect people on here, it is much more likely to affect young children and pregnant women. Parents will isolate with their young children if they think a virus circulating locally could kill them.
It may never be needed. But if any local quarantine is necessary, I think there will be high compliance rates from pregnant women and parents of young children - whatever they might say on here.

It depends what you mean by "isolate". Those of us who had young children in the first lockdowns also saw the impact on them of restrictions. Things like staying off school and clubs, plus closing soft plays and activities, can all be forced. Isolate though, no, even at a 10% death rate keeping number of contacts limited can be sensible and we would keep up some walking distance little friend contacts with those who will also keep contact numbers small. Because mental health matters too and we know from covid later lockdowns that this limit worked fine.

Regardless, the idea that our government might choose lockdown over boosting vaccine facilities and running a vaccination programme is baffling. This is not an unknown virus and it has a vaccine, it is not the same as covid.

Peakpeakpeak · 21/08/2024 18:33

Nadeed · 21/08/2024 17:59

If MPox does affect people on here, it is much more likely to affect young children and pregnant women. Parents will isolate with their young children if they think a virus circulating locally could kill them.
It may never be needed. But if any local quarantine is necessary, I think there will be high compliance rates from pregnant women and parents of young children - whatever they might say on here.

I think the discussions have been more about lockdown, haven't they? Local quarantines are more difficult in some ways, because they're less likely to include back up infrastructure like national lockdowns do. I'd expect pregnant women to do all they could to protect themselves, but they're not a particularly large percentage of the population. Gets more complex with kids because of the need for childcare if parents have to work.

Nadeed · 21/08/2024 17:59

If MPox does affect people on here, it is much more likely to affect young children and pregnant women. Parents will isolate with their young children if they think a virus circulating locally could kill them.
It may never be needed. But if any local quarantine is necessary, I think there will be high compliance rates from pregnant women and parents of young children - whatever they might say on here.

Begsthequestion · 21/08/2024 17:54

Beezknees · 21/08/2024 15:16

The word "selfish" has been so overused during the pandemic, it's just lazy and boring now to cry selfish when somebody doesn't want to lock themselves up at home.

It is inherently selfish to spread a deadly disease because you're bored.

ladyintherain · 21/08/2024 17:08

I'm not too worried about it right now, but I will be if it evolves to be more contagious

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 21/08/2024 17:04

Mummyratbag · 17/08/2024 12:11

I was ahead of the curve being very concerned about Covid, but even I remember dismissing it early on and thinking "oh that is awful for those in China" without really thinking anymore about it. I worked in a pharmacy and saw the panic growing week on week with people at first looking for masks (we had none), hand gel (it had sold out), paracetamol ("I need it for chronic pain, not for Covid, sell it to me not everyone else" ...said to me on repeat when limited to one box), then it was cough mixture ("I have a cough, it's not Covid" ...no tests available at this stage so a bit presumptious)...I'm hoping my lack of concern (except for those in countries effected) is not misplaced and that the problem can be contained and those sick treated.

The thought of another lockdown is hideous, but if this (or any other virus) becomes a pandemic and the fatality rate is high, we will need to take precautions.

As soon as I saw the first, very short, reports of a new virus in China I made a mental note to keep an eye on it. Which I did.

Didn't predict the panic buying, though I did make sure we had a couple of packs of paracetamol in the house. DH had Covid before the lockdown started, though we didn't realise at the time because no-one was talking about loss of taste and smell being a symptom. He worked in retail then and had customers just back from Italy come in, they even announced that they should have been quarantining themselves. He was quite ill and felt ill for months afterwards, DS and I caught it and it was quite mild for us.

I'm keeping an eye on mpox anyway - not worrying yet, I have too many things to worry about that are happening now, but it is concerning. As is bird flu.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 21/08/2024 16:39

LiesLiesEverywhere · 21/08/2024 16:05

I’m not expecting to die soon (touch wood) and ‘pandemics’ aren’t a big deal to me either. Call me selfish and a granny killer, water off a duck’s back. Goody2shoes is not selfish, just realistic.

I can’t believe there are people falling for it again. Have you learnt nothing from last time.

#FollowTheMoneyScience

That's it. It's just the reality of life.

We can't, realistically, keep everyone alive. People die of all sorts of things at all ages.

Pandemics happen and they are scary. Of course people want to avoid getting sick but a state of semi permanent lockdown going from one disease to the next is unsustainable.

I've got children, a husband, other family. Do I want them to die before their time? Of course not. I would hope they respond appropriately and sensibly to each and every risk in life, including diseases.

But there must be balance in life. Being too afraid to have any sort of life is no life.

Whammyammy · 21/08/2024 16:15

However, I hope they don't start putting arrows on the floor of the supermarket, insisting people wear face nappies, although I would take full advantage of help out to eat out again. Saved a fortune last time.

Whammyammy · 21/08/2024 16:12

Didn't worry over covid, don't worry about M pox.

LiesLiesEverywhere · 21/08/2024 16:05

Begsthequestion · 21/08/2024 14:25

Ah right. So you're expecting to die soon so pandemics aren't a big deal to you.

Can you see how others might find your attitude incredibly selfish?

I’m not expecting to die soon (touch wood) and ‘pandemics’ aren’t a big deal to me either. Call me selfish and a granny killer, water off a duck’s back. Goody2shoes is not selfish, just realistic.

I can’t believe there are people falling for it again. Have you learnt nothing from last time.

#FollowTheMoneyScience

Peakpeakpeak · 21/08/2024 15:38

Anecdotally, the very old people I know didn't give a lot of fucks about the covid risk. I didn't find it a remotely difficult choice personally, though.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 21/08/2024 15:35

@Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast

I think your POV was shared by many older people during the covid pandemic as they knew they had a limited amount of years left and didn't want to spend them shut away inside their homes .

A very difficult dilemma for their family/friends . I have been quite upset sometimes thinking of all those people living alone with no contact because their family member were worried about infecting them, but I can also see why they wouldn't have wanted the guilt.

Peakpeakpeak · 21/08/2024 15:25

Beezknees · 21/08/2024 15:16

The word "selfish" has been so overused during the pandemic, it's just lazy and boring now to cry selfish when somebody doesn't want to lock themselves up at home.

This is true. It no longer means much to many of us in a pandemic context, thanks to overuse.

Beezknees · 21/08/2024 15:16

Begsthequestion · 21/08/2024 14:25

Ah right. So you're expecting to die soon so pandemics aren't a big deal to you.

Can you see how others might find your attitude incredibly selfish?

The word "selfish" has been so overused during the pandemic, it's just lazy and boring now to cry selfish when somebody doesn't want to lock themselves up at home.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 21/08/2024 14:49

How others may see my opinion is none of my business. They will interpret it however best suits them.

If people want to see me saying life is short, there are no guarantees, live it as much as you can as me being selfish, that's up to them.

My opinion as stated upthread remains unchanged.

We cannot control these things. Diseases kill people. People kill people. Lack of food and water kills people. The world cannot shut down. It is unrealistic. We all need to live until we die.

If individuals want to withdraw that is entirely their choice but they can't impose that on the other 8 billion + people in the world.

Pandemics have happened before and will happen again.

It's quite likely that at some point there will be a huge one that will kill fucktonnes of us.

Or Yellowstone will erupt.

Or a massive asteroid will hit the earth.

What you call selfish I call accepting reality.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 21/08/2024 14:42

@Begsthequestion
You don't always have to try to have the last word you know .

Begsthequestion · 21/08/2024 14:25

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 21/08/2024 14:02

You think?
🤣🤣🤣🤣. I wish.

I'm 50.

I have heart failure, stage 3 kidney disease and copd. I'm diabetic. I'm asthmatic. I have pcos. (I'm also autistic and I have mhp and have been sectioned before and suicidal too).

I currently take amitriptyline, metformin, diazapam, atorvastatin, jardiance, fostair, salamol, furosemide, duloxetine, losartin and rybelsus.

I have completed a respect form with my GP and I have a DNR in place.

I was dx with hf 3 years ago.

I've got a chance of making it another few years but realistically I'm not going to live to see 60.

We all die in the end. Some of us sooner than others.

Life is for living. Not for hiding away.

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Ah right. So you're expecting to die soon so pandemics aren't a big deal to you.

Can you see how others might find your attitude incredibly selfish?

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 21/08/2024 14:02

Begsthequestion · 21/08/2024 13:28

With this attitude, what's the likelihood you're relatively young and physically healthy?

You think?
🤣🤣🤣🤣. I wish.

I'm 50.

I have heart failure, stage 3 kidney disease and copd. I'm diabetic. I'm asthmatic. I have pcos. (I'm also autistic and I have mhp and have been sectioned before and suicidal too).

I currently take amitriptyline, metformin, diazapam, atorvastatin, jardiance, fostair, salamol, furosemide, duloxetine, losartin and rybelsus.

I have completed a respect form with my GP and I have a DNR in place.

I was dx with hf 3 years ago.

I've got a chance of making it another few years but realistically I'm not going to live to see 60.

We all die in the end. Some of us sooner than others.

Life is for living. Not for hiding away.

Begsthequestion · 21/08/2024 13:28

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 18/08/2024 08:55

There are lots of diseases out there that are killing people. That's never going to stop.
It's sensible to be cautious when something new appears while scientists gather data and figure out whether it's going to wipe out two thirds of the global population or end up being a bad case of the sniffles but the world cannot go into lockdown forever.

We can't stop people dying. I understand that lack of control and fear of death are at the heart of pandemic panics but we have to accept that there will always be diseases that will kill some people. It's inevitable. Any of us could catch something and die. That's scary but reducing your world to nothing and demanding the rest of the population does the same for fear of catching something that may kill you but statistically speaking probably won't is a kind of death in itself.

People sneer about scaremongering but really all scaremongering is is people who are scared making themselves more scared by obsessing about finding a way to control things that they have no realistic control over.

With this attitude, what's the likelihood you're relatively young and physically healthy?

LizzieW1969 · 21/08/2024 13:04

HappyMuma · 20/08/2024 20:07

It’s Been in the news!

And my DD1 (15) found out about it on TikTok, I think. She asked, ‘What’s MPox?’ They all know about it!

Differentstarts · 20/08/2024 20:10

LiesLiesEverywhere · 20/08/2024 19:39

Nothing a bit of make up can’t hide.

🤣🤣🤣

HappyMuma · 20/08/2024 20:07

Differentstarts · 20/08/2024 19:29

How is your 12 year old even aware of this

It’s Been in the news!

LiesLiesEverywhere · 20/08/2024 19:39

Nothing a bit of make up can’t hide.

Makeup Monkey GIF by MOODMAN
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