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Phoning in sick on Christmas Day?

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themanors · 15/08/2024 13:06

I work as a receptionist in a hotel
I have been told as the newest member of the team I will be working Christmas Day months in advance.
It's 11am -11 pm shift and the same Christmas Eve (my birthday)
It's minimum wage and we won't get paid extra.
My dad is 87 and isn't in the best health and I'm his only family
I'm really scared that this might be his last Christmas and I'm wasting it at work for a company who doesn't care
I asked to swap and was told no
I asked if anyone else wanted to work was told no

Aibu to phone in sick?
Il just add I'm not workshy
I never ring in sick

OP posts:
DeadpoolvsBlackswan · 16/08/2024 15:35

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:18

The thing is tho the whole "not fair on colleagues "
The same ones who refused to split the shift
I have no problem doing 4 hours
Or even 6 so I had time with dad
But this is me leaving him alone all day
He will have no dinner as he won't be able to do it himself
I'm looking for a new job already but no guarantees I will get one before December

Have you told them that you are your dads only carer?

luckylavender · 16/08/2024 15:21

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:18

The thing is tho the whole "not fair on colleagues "
The same ones who refused to split the shift
I have no problem doing 4 hours
Or even 6 so I had time with dad
But this is me leaving him alone all day
He will have no dinner as he won't be able to do it himself
I'm looking for a new job already but no guarantees I will get one before December

You've told us how you feel. Look for another job now. That's the solution.

Hoardasauruskaren · 16/08/2024 15:17

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:12

If I'm pulling my weight
Why is nobody else?
Why are Christmas Eve and day on the same person ?
To me that's not fair
I wouldn't mind doing Christmas Eve
New Year's Eve and day just not Christmas Day

Christmas eve is classed as a normal working day! So no reason why staff wouldn’t be expected to work both that and Christmas Day. Boxing Day is a public holiday so you expy to be off then if you worked Christmas Day. In your circumstances I wouldn’t wasn’t to do it either but you have time to sort it rather than phone in sick on the day !

Clarinet1 · 16/08/2024 15:11

I agree that the 12 hour shifts both days and no extra pay is pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable. My feeling is that there is something better for the OP out there so she should not waste time and energy trying to change her employer’s and colleague’s minds but get on with finding a new job.
Also, I’m afraid the fact that the OP’s birthday coincides with Christmas and her DF’s age are not the employer’s problem.

NAndJIsLockingDown · 16/08/2024 14:58

I'd see right through it and sack you on the spot.

WindsurfingDreams · 16/08/2024 14:16

Well, you have a few choices

  1. find a new job, with a working pattern that suits you
  2. accept a new job is hard to find and ask your dad if he minds celebrating Christmas with you at a different time 3)accept a new job is hard to find but pull a sicky and risk being sacked - and find it even harder to find a new job.

it doesn't sound fair, and I wouldn't be happy, but I would be going with option 1.

FredericC · 16/08/2024 13:54

You're being a bit silly and sound very young.

If you're sure you're not BU why even post?

MeanWeedratStew · 16/08/2024 11:21

How old are you, OP? Given your father's age, I would expect you to be middle-aged, but your posts read as if you're a very young adult who is only just discovering how unfair the world of work can be.

Other posters have said this in a million ways, but you're not listening: work can be shit. You either work through the shitty bits, or you leave.

ladydeedy · 16/08/2024 10:46

You sound immature and entitled and I am glad you dont work for me!
Do it, try to negotiate one of the two days or leave.

IcecreamWhatSandwich · 16/08/2024 10:28

They are BU by expecting a new person to do a 12 hour shift without extra pay. You should be getting double time, and there should be 3 people doing 4 hour shifts or so, so no one's Xmas is completely ruined.

If the people you're letting down are the same ones who control these decisions, or if the more senior staff have engineered not having to work, then absolutely phone in sick.

Truetoself · 16/08/2024 10:26

OP I fully understand you not wanting to work on Christmas Day. However you have taken on this role which requires you to work on that day. It is perfectly reasonable to try and negotiate with your manager or to say outright you won't be working all day both Christmas Day and Christmas Eve. However, it is not reasonable to call in sick on Christmas Day if you are not sick and no point commenting about the operations of the hotel as that is not up to you.

ImAFemaleVersionOfRoyKeane · 16/08/2024 10:17

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:15

@ByCupidStunt if I worked for the nhs that is different ,this is hotel reception
Who choose to open Christmas Day out of sheer greed

They open Christmas Day so people can travel and visit their families for Christmas!

Catsbreakfast · 16/08/2024 09:04

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:10

Also I took the hotel job because I needed a job and money
It wasn't my first choice
What about if I was sick ?

You’re not sick though, no one will believe you’re sick and this is what you have to deal with taking shift work. Grow the hell up.

mrshoho · 16/08/2024 09:01

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:38

Also the hotel isn't opening out of charity
It's x4 the normal price of a room
Charging £130 pp for a glorified Sunday dinner
Let's not pretend the hotel is opening out of the goodness of their heart
They up the prices yet don't up the staffs wages for this day

This establishment is charging premium rates for Christmas as you would expect. But I thought the extortionate prices to stay in a hotel or eat in a restaurant over Christmas would be partly necessary to cover the premium wages the would have to pay. This company appears to want its cake and eat it. Op I know it's not just the money and you are right to want to prioritise your special time with your Dad. I'd leave there as soon as you can. I don't know what area you're in but hopefully there's plenty more jobs around that won't be making such demands.

KaySam · 16/08/2024 07:10

There is plenty of time to find another job,maybe in retail as Christmas vacancies will be starting soon,but make sure you don’t have to work over Christmas.

you’d be out of order to ring in sick Christmas Day and be so hard faced to go back in afterwards as though nothing happened.

if you didn’t want to work during public holidays then you should have thought about that before taking the job.

Willyoujustbequiet · 15/08/2024 19:35

I wouldn't do it but I'd be changing jobs rather than dropping a colleague in it.

BibbleandSqwauk · 15/08/2024 19:33

You and your dad are both grown ups. It's an arbitrary date. Do Christmas on Boxing Day or look for another job. You've had 12 pages of people basically telling you that.

CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 15/08/2024 19:21

YABU but clearly you don’t think so.

It is rubbish but if you work in many different jobs including hospitality then chances are you will work on Christmas Day. And unfortunately it’s often the case that the newest person draws the short straw.

I’ve worked several Christmas Days, so has my dad. He’s a single parent and yes it’s rubbish but it is what it is. We have just celebrated on whatever the closest available day is.

You need to look for a different job and tell them you have holiday plans on Christmas Day. If you pull a sickie you’ll likely need a new job anyway as you could well be fired.

Annettecurtaintwitcher · 15/08/2024 19:15

Find a new job. Or have breakfast with your dad on Christmas Day and exchange presents, then have Christmas dinner together on Boxing Day. Don’t call in sick, it is not fair on whoever will have to cover for you.

tennesseewhiskey1 · 15/08/2024 19:04

Confused why you have come on to ask IYABU - most people have said yes, but you have all these reasons WHY you are not? I worked in a hotel - for years - i never got ONE Christmas off - my sister works for the same hotel now - in 10 years she's also not had ONE Christmas off. People who lie to get days like that off - everyone knows it's a lie - you're shafting someone else over - but like you said - why would you care?! Baffling. Please leave the hotel industry asap.

Destiny123 · 15/08/2024 19:01

Sinderalla · 15/08/2024 13:22

NHS are paid handsomely for Xmas day. I'm nhs.

I say get out of it what ever way you have to, deal with the consequences after.
I would take the rest of my life off work if I could spend another Christmas Day with any of my parents!!

Drs aren't lol ... we work a 13h day and get an 8h day in lieu... used to bug me the amount of nurses that were like "oh are you doing it for the money too?". Heck no, that'd be nice when are rota'd 13h days 24-27th for the 7th year running

you can't argue "I did last year" as it was in a different hospital and noone gives a toss if you never get xmas with your family..wish we could do the half days that the rest of theatre teams do but given you don't choose where you work, even if you do get an odd day in thr middle off you can't even go home when it's a 8h return trip home

Yes somewhat bitter. Least labour ward at Xmas is cheerful

ICantThinkOfOne13 · 15/08/2024 18:52

@themanors why did you even post and ask because you've already made your mind up, regardless of everybody else's comments or thoughts.

kierenthecommunity · 15/08/2024 18:36

Serencwtch · 15/08/2024 17:19

It's not about 'disappointing' the company it's fraud & the same as stealing from your company.

You can hand your notice in before Christmas & take unpaid leave then reapply in January.

I have always worked jobs that involve Xmas & unsocial hours as do many others & it's usually shitty jobs on low pay but that's tough - apply for something that has the hours you want - School, doctors surgery etc all have better hours.

How is it fraud and stealing? Presumably if she doesn’t go in, she doesn’t get paid.

OP if your dad is nearly ninety I’m assuming you’re middle aged, not some kid with their first job. You know calling in sick would BU you’re not an idiot. But you’ve been given loads of advice about how you can change things, it’s up to you if you take it.

I’m on nights Xmas eve, day and BD this year 😫 so I’m not exactly overly sympathetic 😂

MegaClutterSlut · 15/08/2024 17:31

Its really shit that they've given you both those shifts and not split them fairly between you all. Don't think I'd leave an elderly parent on there own xmas day either but I wouldn't call in sick, I'd leave

Serencwtch · 15/08/2024 17:19

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:08

Well it's either disappointing a company or my dad.
I suggested shorter shifts over more members of staff and was refused

It's not about 'disappointing' the company it's fraud & the same as stealing from your company.

You can hand your notice in before Christmas & take unpaid leave then reapply in January.

I have always worked jobs that involve Xmas & unsocial hours as do many others & it's usually shitty jobs on low pay but that's tough - apply for something that has the hours you want - School, doctors surgery etc all have better hours.

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