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Would you expect adult stepson to help with household chores if he worked and you didn't?

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orangejuice11 · 15/08/2024 10:42

I am currently a sahp to mine and dh children and his adult son also lives here.
I do the housework and all the childcare but SS is home 3 days a week as he works compressed hours.
He doesn't feel he should do any chores as he works and I don't.
Dh works away a lot and I don't want to burden him with this but curious to see if others would expect an adult child to help out around the house in this situation?

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KreedKafer · 15/08/2024 13:21

I'd expect him to do some stuff when he's actually around, yes. Just because he works that doesn't mean he's exempt from stuff like sorting his own laundry, clearing up after dinner or whatever. Mowing the lawn at the weekend, that kind of thing.

The 'I go out to work so I shouldn't have to do much housework' argument might hold up a bit better if he were your partner and the money he earned at work was supporting you not to go out to work, but this isn't your partner. He's your partner's son and his wage isn't keeping the household afloat or paying for things that you need/want.

I wouldn't expect an adult child to be dealing with the younger kids' mess or childcare or that kind of stuff, though.

outdamnedspots · 15/08/2024 13:15

But you are looking after your dc all day. You are working - albeit unpaid. Of course your ss should do his share!! Lazy toad.

What his gf thinks is irrelevant.

GrumpyPanda · 15/08/2024 13:14

ClaudiaWankleman · 15/08/2024 12:27

It's not just that though? Scrubbing the soap off the bath after a week of baths that you haven't taken would be quite annoying, wouldn't it? Let alone having to clean a small person's toilet seat on top of actually cleaning etc.

It's a room where having small children use it adds quite a lot of work - certainly more than unloading a few extra sets of plates + cutlery and washing an extra pan. There's probably a reason it's on OP's list of jobs to cut down on!

Dunno about that. I'd be willing to bet this prince among men pees standing up and expects OP to clean up after it.

muggart · 15/08/2024 13:13

what a prat. tell him to increase his financial contributions to cover the cost of a live-in housekeeper service. And you do have a job, a job with longer hours and more responsibilities than his.

That said, this is really a conversation between his Dad and him. not reasonable to expect you to deal with his misogyny.

Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 15/08/2024 13:12

Thw gf might regret agreeing with him if they ever move in together!

RamonaRamirez · 15/08/2024 13:12

Yeah but this is really a problem with your partner!

HE needs to explain to his son that he needs to help , he should have taught his son to respect women, and that being female does not mean you are responsible for all the cleaning!

My two adult sons are at home this summer, they contribute £350 towards food/bills AND we expect them to help with the cleaning.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 15/08/2024 13:11

Dh works away a lot and I don't want to burden him with this
Why not? His adult son is living in your house and is refusing to do one simple thing you ask? Tough if hes away a lot. His son, his problem. You aren't his mother. His girlfriend can see what it's like to have a lazy arse living with her who doesn't know how to do simple chores.

NasiDagang · 15/08/2024 13:09

My adult son works full time but he has time to clean the bathroom, mow the lawn and put the the bins out. He has autism as well.

Summertimer · 15/08/2024 13:08

GCAcademic · 15/08/2024 13:06

That makes it even worse. He's not supporting her financially, in a relationship with her, or providing anything else that would justify his expectation of unpaid labour.

If he’s paying his board, for me that’s enough. It might be different in some families. If so go with it

Izzynohopanda · 15/08/2024 13:08

You are not his maid or employee.

ClaudiaWankleman · 15/08/2024 13:07

GrumpyPanda · 15/08/2024 13:06

To her DP. Not to his lazy-ass son.

Yes, that's what's was written originally.

Summertimer · 15/08/2024 13:06

GrumpyPanda · 15/08/2024 12:59

Except he doesn't! He's enjoying the services of a private chef-cum cleaner without pitching in himself.

OP tell him/the cf gf that how you and yiur spouse split tasks between the two of you is none of their goddamn business and doesn't absolve him from doing his share (not "chores") the way any adult would. In the meantime, stop serving him any food. If yiu want to be really petty, refund him a small part of his monthly contribution and tell him to do his own shopping and put a lock on rhe pantry.

Family is different

GCAcademic · 15/08/2024 13:06

Summertimer · 15/08/2024 12:46

But he’s not her partner

That makes it even worse. He's not supporting her financially, in a relationship with her, or providing anything else that would justify his expectation of unpaid labour.

Moonshine5 · 15/08/2024 13:06

You do work

GrumpyPanda · 15/08/2024 13:06

ClaudiaWankleman · 15/08/2024 11:50

Stay at home partner maybe? Smile

To her DP. Not to his lazy-ass son.

Summertimer · 15/08/2024 13:05

LuckySantangelo35 · 15/08/2024 12:51

@Summertimer

so? He is an adult. Therefore he should be contributing.

I take a different view, you are entitled to your different view

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 15/08/2024 13:05

He doesn't feel he should do any chores as he works and I don't

You do work. You look after the children and the home. Why does he think economic work trumps domestic work? Is it because it’s usually women who do it? How you - or anyone else for that matter - decide to share the labour in your own home is your business. It only ever becomes an issue when one type of work is valued more than the other.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 15/08/2024 13:05

I think I'd be telling him is keep has increased by £50 a week to cover the maid service he ordered.

In fact - as you haven't specified - look up the average cost of a room in your area, increase his rent to that, and then find out how much a cleaner is and add that on. When I had a cleaner I was paying about £250 a month for 2 hours a week.

Maybe he won't be such a sod when he realises what a good deal he's getting.

And his stupid girlfriend is going to regret her words when/if they ever live together!

GrumpyPanda · 15/08/2024 12:59

Summertimer · 15/08/2024 11:35

I don’t believe in ‘chores’. If he pays to live with you, offering the occasional or even regular cooking of a meal and asking ‘can I put some washing on for you’ is more than enough

Except he doesn't! He's enjoying the services of a private chef-cum cleaner without pitching in himself.

OP tell him/the cf gf that how you and yiur spouse split tasks between the two of you is none of their goddamn business and doesn't absolve him from doing his share (not "chores") the way any adult would. In the meantime, stop serving him any food. If yiu want to be really petty, refund him a small part of his monthly contribution and tell him to do his own shopping and put a lock on rhe pantry.

NasiDagang · 15/08/2024 12:58

Ask him to move out! He sounds very entitled.

LuckySantangelo35 · 15/08/2024 12:51

Summertimer · 15/08/2024 12:46

But he’s not her partner

@Summertimer

so? He is an adult. Therefore he should be contributing.

ClaudiaWankleman · 15/08/2024 12:47

Sweetteaplease · 15/08/2024 12:45

We must have quite different expectations. I expect my 3 yo to keep his room clean, that goes without saying. Someone over 20 shouldn't be getting brownie points for that! I'm also assuming him and his gf probably male more of a mess in the bathroom than young children, and I'm guessing it's probably mostly clean anyway. If anything he should learn to clean a bathroom so he doesn't end up being completely useless when he eventually moves of home

I haven't actually given brownie points. If you actually read what I wrote, I said that puts him at 0.

Summertimer · 15/08/2024 12:46

LuckySantangelo35 · 15/08/2024 12:39

@Summertimer

you think it’s fine that op does absolutely everything in the house and he - another adult - does nothing?! Wow! Internalised misogyny much?!

But he’s not her partner

Sweetteaplease · 15/08/2024 12:45

ClaudiaWankleman · 15/08/2024 12:16

If his room is cleaned, it's done by him (I'm not saying it is cleaned, but OP doesn't do it) and he does his own laundry. So he's at 0 on those fronts. The extra jobs around the house need to be shared equally, but as I said I think his 'fair share' of those will be quite small in practice.

Washing up a couple of times a week, or sorting out other people's laundry when he does his own would probably be enough. I kind of understand if he didn't want to clean the bathroom that two young children also use - they are probably more likely to leave it dirtier than most by virtue of using the bath, toilet habits and being a bit messier overall.

We must have quite different expectations. I expect my 3 yo to keep his room clean, that goes without saying. Someone over 20 shouldn't be getting brownie points for that! I'm also assuming him and his gf probably male more of a mess in the bathroom than young children, and I'm guessing it's probably mostly clean anyway. If anything he should learn to clean a bathroom so he doesn't end up being completely useless when he eventually moves of home

Theoldbird · 15/08/2024 12:45

Dotjones · 15/08/2024 11:29

I have asked that he clean the bathroom once a week on one of his days off and he thinks this is unreasonable because he's at work and earning so I should do it as I'm at home all day

Your problem is that you are not seeing this from his point of view. The way he sees it, the bathroom needs cleaning once per week at most. Men don't clean bathrooms daily, it's a weekly to monthly job. So in his eyes, why should he be wholly responsible for the task of cleaning the bathroom when you are a stay at home parent who probably should find time to give it a quick going over every seven days. Why would he do all the cleaning for you and your children?

Another way to look at it is if you clean it six days per week, missing one day in seven isn't actually going to make any difference.

so basically he should do no chores either way? what the hell are you on about? he lives in the house, he needs to do chores and household tasks. I would a expect a 10 year old understand that. My own dc were doing age appropriate chores by long before the age of 10