Other people’s Botox habits making me look old

Yeah because people who get Botox are too stupid to also eat well and exercise.

What a load of horseshit.

I had a traumatic event that took a great toll on my physical and mental health. I’ve had therapy & am doing better now, but the severe stress left me with an unpleasant looking line above my eye. I’m not squeamish so I went and got the weird line “toxed” out of my forehead. I felt much better, as the crease made me think of the incident every time I caught sight of it. If id been scarred in the assault I would have tried to repair that too so I refuse to accept shaming for fixing visual evidence of someone abusing me. It also made a huge improvement to my chronic migraines!

I think even a 12 year old would know that it's not on to gasp and tell someone you thought they were much older than they are. Most people know that when someone tells you their age you've got to pretend they don't look it 😂. She seems to have no social skills. It's like someone saying they're 11 stone and you gasping and saying I thought you weighed much more. Even a kid knows it's hurtful.

" for her age". Exactly. So she probably doesn't actually look younger.

Look at the recent Kylie Jenner Botox/fillers furore. And she's a billionaire who can afford/be gifted the best and is only 27.

I agree.

I was working with a woman today, about my age, four teenage kids. Nice figure, hair done. Well dressed. But a regular Mom, not glam or anything. Her forehead was totally smooth & there was a weird mouth thing going on every time she smiled. Botox etc is always obvious to me. And even if it’s done well, the person looks too good to be true. Who knows, she could have been looking at me, thinking “she could really benefit from Botox. It would make such a difference!”

'there's something slightly off-putting when you notice that people's expressions aren't quite right?'

Definitely. Even procedures people swear you don't notice... I saw a women in her 50s on TV and I knew instantly that she'd had a lower blepharoplasty. There were no scars, but it stood out because it didn't match the rest of her face.

Your hairdresser was unbelievably rude!

This thread made me laugh and feel totally vindicated. I haven't aged brilliantly (tough few years plus genetics) and have quite deep 11s and forehead lines even though I'm not yet 40. Have sworn I won't give in to cosmetic procedures but I definitely feel completely unreasonably resentful of all the people who DO have Botox etc for making me look even worse by comparison 😅 My MIL has a face full of surgeries and Botox and I quietly dread her being mistaken for my toddler's mother (she would LOVE that!) But I suppose on balance I like my face to be able to move naturally, there's something slightly off-putting when you notice that people's expressions aren't quite right? And I think as people do age it starts to look less and less convincing.

I have hope it ends up being one of those things people look back on in a few decades and say "people injected actual toxins into their faces to paralyse themselves WTF???" but who knows.

I really wouldn't worry about what a 17 yr old thinks. According to the teens in my school, I'm between 32 and 52- often depending on what I'm wearing, how annoyed I am and how old their mum is. If they know my first name, it instantly narrows the field.

Fwiw, at 18 I thought 25 yr old women were ancient and should not be trespassing in my nightclubs. 25yr old men were OK though. 🙄

This is simply not true

Maybe it wasn’t your skin?

Any specific Tret you recommend? I have heard good things but don't know where to start!

@spikeandbuffy24 same question to you too :)

The way I would have made a SCENE and cried my eyes out to get a free haircut. She was so mean! 🤣

The people I know who have botox look older than they are, same with all the fillers. They're also ones who spend so much money on creams, plaster themselves in make up.

The people who look good are the ones who don't mess with their face. Don't cake themselves in make up. They eat a sensible diet and exercise regularly and don't sunbathe.

I don't think botox makes people look younger, just smoother. However I do get what you say about the beauty standard shifting. My SIL was talking recently about quiting getting her lashes and nails done professionally to pay for botox because all her friends were now doing botox and she felt like the haggard one out of them. She is early 40's.

A couple of my colleagues have Botox in their early thirties and I don’t think it makes them look younger. They just sort of look a bit shiny and stretched.

I’m 36 and I got asked for ID the other day so I’m taking that as proof I still look young to some people at least.

The teenager at your appointment was incredibly rude and hopefully feels mortified and won’t make the same comment again. Although at 17 I doubt I could tell the age of anyone over 25 very accurately.

This 😂

The Kardashians etc are always trotted out on these threads.

She doesn't look plastic because she has a light touch of Botox a few times a year: she looks that was because she's had a considerable amount of major surgical procedures and extensive amounts of filler which 99.9% of people would never choose or could never afford.

Kim K was so pretty, now she looks like a blanked out robot and there is no life or sparkle in her eyes. I recall some photos of her where she was in fancy dress as that girl in the Aladdin Disney cartoon and she looked so full of life and really lovely. All that animation and brightness has gone from her and this is not due to the passage of time but the way she has plasticised her looks

Did it once and never again. I've decided I'd rather have eyebrows that move. I don't think I look my age (I've just always looked younger than I am, not because I'm pretty but because I have a baby face!) but I do look older than the mums I know my age who have Botox ( as my nine year old daughter happily pointed out.) But the good thing about getting into your forties is that you cease to give a shit about what other people think of you, and I don't care about my wrinkly forehead.

I save £10 a week into an account I can only access once a month and with three days notice. I wouldn't be able to afford it otherwise.

I only get it twice a year so it's fine - £190 a time for my crows feet and my forehead.

Not at all @ObelixtheGaul

Tiny tiny needle, takes two minutes, then a week later suddenly you just look like you've come home from a month in a spa in the Caribbean.

I go to my friend who gives me a discount
Or students-again huge discount.

How do so many people afford it? I’m baffled by that. It’s so expensive and yet so many people seem to get it. I’m on a decent salary but with a child and nursery fees, plus cost of living and mortgage interest rates, even getting a regular haircut or replacing my old running shoes is something I have to save for.