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Would you accept this apparent disinterest from DH

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Movingonup313 · 15/08/2024 03:43

This is my first thread. Ive been observing MN for years and love the varied thought out responses and advice. We live in UK. DH of 11 years and two children in primary school. DH has never ever planned a night out/cinema trip/holiday/play date/friends over/theatre trip/museum trip - so nothing. Lies in bed until I leave with children at the weekends and works late during the week. Pre-children (pregnant) I basically forced him to book holiday accommodation once(as in, I put my foot down and made clear it was beyond his turn) and he booked an awful place that we left early from. He will not give to charity. Nothing. Not even a £1 on dress down day - he says we shouldnt need charities and shouldnt encourage it. (Im disgusted by this and he did not voice this pre children or Id have been offski.) He said we dont need date nights as its of no interest to him. He hates suggestion of babysitter and says we should be sole carers. He doesnt want to socialise or be involved in the kids social development. I cant remember the last time he paid me a compliment - he is generally nasty and continuously critical of me. Our children have noticed how "nice" he is to colleagues on the phone but isnt particularly nice to the children/I and they ask me why that is - i told him this and he responded it was me planting the idea in their head (I didn't). We have no shared finances - I dont know his earnings (never have) and he picks and choses what he will pay for (which is well below 50% of family spending even though I think he earns more than me). (Said an ex stole all his money when she left so he wants to protect himself.) He creates a bad atmosphere if I go away for a girly weekend/arrange visitors/go out - to the extent ive not been out in years/stopped visitors and have 1 weekend away per year. I am physically disabled and he is particularly nasty to me about that - I had to be ambulanced to hospital a few months ago. At 5am I got the ok to go home - I couldnt get a taxi to come and he had turned his phone off so I couldnt ask him to come the 1 mile to collect me (i thought of trying to walk, in the rain, in my pyjamas and slippers). After an hour I eventually found a taxi and when I got home I was stuck outside banging to get in as he had locked the doors - and he was pissed off I woke him up. He never ever asks how I am - i had a funeral a few weeks ago and he didnt even ask how it was/how mum of the deceased child was/how I was after it. There were things I could let slide or I blossomed over for a long time but now Im utterly fed up of doing that and dont want my children to see this as in any way a healthy relationship. I did ask him to see a dr as I wondered if he was depressed but he doesnt believe in MH and voices that if you want to be well.... you will be (for the record I do not agree and challenge him on this..... im so done with challenging him on a lot of stuff.) Im leaving the relationship (he is making me move out as he sees the marital home as his and wont go - and I just want away. Children are coming with me. I have an appointment with a family lawyer set up). I have no other family. He isolated us from his family and told me to stop communicating with them. I suppose my question is, am I being unreasonable in wanting out?

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Lovethat · 15/08/2024 23:50

I don't normally agree with this but I hope you take the bastard to the cleaners, half, if not more due to your disability of BOTH houses, his savings and pensions. What a disgusting human he is.

BeSpoonyAquaHare · 15/08/2024 23:27

No, you’re not unreasonable. He sounds like a miserable, nasty bastard and you would be well shot of him.

Movingonup313 · 15/08/2024 23:22

Again, thanks everyone. The doubter in me sings a little rhyme along the lines of you have managed to cope this far so wait another 10 years or so until kids all moved on. But I would not want my children to accept even a smidgen of this, and, well, we werent born to suffer.

I wish I knew exactly why I stayed so long. It of course wasnt like this at the start - it gradually declined. Working full time with kids I didnt have much time/energy/inclination to fight it. But when the personal insults became frequent and then the control became obvious I knew it was time to go. Dont get me wrong, I have many times over the years asked for change/things to stop or improve.

I didnt text more of the pretty dreadful treatment but seems everyone got the flavour and is appalled. I was reassured to hear of people who have gone through similar and come out better. I was worried about it just being the kids and I on say christmas day etc but he lay in bed most of the day anyway and ruined the day for me every year - it wont be a loss! I will post post-move with a happy update. Thank you.

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newhousenewhouse · 15/08/2024 11:33

I left the family home as my ex wouldn't leave. He made everything extremely difficult for me but not impossible. The children and I do not see him and my life is happier in so many ways.

You can do this too.

PiperLeo · 15/08/2024 11:10

I'm so glad you're getting out. I just hope you have the strength to go ahead. It's so easy to just stop and go back to it because it's the easier option. You wouldn't be blamed for it. I do think that moving into your own place is better. It's something that is yours and you are doing independently that's one thing he can't take control of. It's what I would do. A new place, new friends, new life... I wish you all the luck in the world xx

Noseybookworm · 15/08/2024 10:51

Of course YANBU to leave. What a miserable life this man has subjected you to. He has shown no love, no care, no consideration for you and your children, he has effectively checked out of the marriage a long time ago. Get yourself and the children away from him, take your solicitor's advice and look forward to a much happier life! Wishing you and your children all the best OP 💐

cestlavielife · 15/08/2024 10:29

Congratulations and bravo. Get out away and free

Sparkletastic · 15/08/2024 10:19

Just wanted to say well done OP on deciding to get out of this atrocious situation. It's really refreshing to read a thread like this.

wizzywig · 15/08/2024 10:13

He's probably calculated that his sperm cost £x and s9 he is deducting that from household costs. What a miserable man

melchim · 15/08/2024 10:09

This is the easiest LTB I've ever read. Congratulations on taking this courageous step Flowers

GrumpyPanda · 15/08/2024 10:06

If you're unsure about your online safety, take your devices to a computer specialist- if necessary, leaving them overnight for a clean reinstall. Given what you've described of your H, well worth a small fee for peace of mind.

Leanmeansmitingmachine · 15/08/2024 09:38

He has older children, who i didnt know about until recently - he did all he could to avoid paying any money

What. The. Fuck.

Time to dig deep, take everything you have in you to fight for yourself and your children. This man is a grade-A cunt.

Rosesanddaffs · 15/08/2024 09:22

You are not being unreasonable for wanting to leave, I’m surprised you didn’t leave this sad excuse of a man sooner.

You and your kids deserve better xx

Inawe81 · 15/08/2024 09:18

He sounds absolutely awful, it also sounds like death by a thousand cuts. Noone could put up with those things you have described, good on you for deciding to leave. It would be much better to be alone than to be with someone as insufferable as him

Blackberriesandcobwebs · 15/08/2024 08:54

Why the heck have you stayed so long with that abusive man? Get. Out.
Call womens aid for support in how to do this safely. Make sure you have copies of any financial docs in a safe place so he can't stiff you over money in the divorce. Bitter and unpleasant partners do not divorce amicably or make it easy.

starsinthegutter · 15/08/2024 08:52

What an absolute shitbag your H is. Well done for realising and getting out. Good you're seeing a solicitor, divorce is tough but so worth it. I'm on the other side and it's bloody wonderful, your kids will be so much happier too! Well done OP 💐

SaintHonoria · 15/08/2024 08:49

There is no point staying with someone who doesn't like you let alone love you.

Who knows why he is staying when he doesn't appear to be happy or interested in you or his children. Perhaps he just doesn't like to live alone?

You and your children deserve to have a home that doesn't include him.

WigglyVonWaggly · 15/08/2024 08:48

OP, there are two or three things in there that I’d have left him for without adding in all of the others. There’s a lot of emotional abuse that you probably are so used to that you view it as mere grumpiness. What an utterly joyless, draining, awful man. He’s sapping all the joy from your life. What does he actually add?

Justgorgeous · 15/08/2024 08:45

Just sending 🌸 and remember you have got this.

MySocksAreDotty · 15/08/2024 08:28

I think PPs have given brilliant advice about getting a settlement. I just want to say how excited I am for your future away from this man. Imagine yourself in a year’s time when the stress of all this is fading and you’re all enjoying the peace and calm of your new home, having people around when you want and never hearing any critical BS from your ex.

Foxblue · 15/08/2024 08:21

God, aside from everything else - he has children he hid from you for all this time?!?
So glad you are getting out - it will be tough but your children will one day look back in awe of what you managed to do.

femfemlicious · 15/08/2024 08:17

Wallywobbles · 15/08/2024 05:00

If he chooses not to step up for contact with the kids don't fight it. If he fades from all of your lives be grateful. He brings nothing good to their lives.

Exactly!. I hope he just goes away!

femfemlicious · 15/08/2024 08:14

Movingonup313 · 15/08/2024 04:57

I havent figured out how to reply without re-pasting the full quote.... just to say that the house is in both our names so its not even as if its only in his name (which doesnt give him 100% right to it anyway).

If the lawyer says do not go, you are stuffing up "right" to matrimonial assets then I will have a think. Im not even wanting half his assets - he can keep it and be miserable. I do want what is fair to keep kids comfortable.

If there was an order for maintenance or anything like that Id expect him to work overseas to safeguard his money or pay himself tiny amounts from the business so to avoid properly supporting his kids. (He has older children, who i didnt know about until recently - he did all he could to avoid paying any money (another thing I disagreed with him about) and has seen them about five times. Its horrible)

You deserve more than half because you have the kids. I understand how you feel though. He is going to be really nasty and you would like to avoid that. Uts really sad

Catza · 15/08/2024 08:08

OP, please listen to me carefully because I do have some professional experience in DV. Under no circumstances you should attempt to leave now. The vast majority of femicides happen when a victim of DV (and this is what is likely happening here) happens when the woman decides to leave the relationship.
You need to first contact a women's shelter organisation and they will support you by helping you to leave in a safe manner. https://refuge.org.uk/
You may think he has never been violent and that he would never attempt to harm you or the children. Unfortunately, we cannot ever say if this is the case. Protect yourself by getting some support.
They may also be able to help you with legal advice. So give them a call today before you make any definitive steps like signing a lease or telling him of your plans.

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Coconutter24 · 15/08/2024 08:05

You know you’re not being unreasonable for wanting out. Who turns their phone off when their DW gets taken into hospital? I understand having to stay home to watch the kids but you’d leave phone on for updates!! He doesn’t sound like he makes you happy at all and doesn’t bother with the kids…. Your better off out of it

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