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To think that people shouldn't go over their bin allowance and should just do a run up to the tip instead.

131 replies

chaosmaker · 15/08/2024 00:04

Next door neighbours are retired and often are away for several weeks at a time. We currently have a 3 weekly black bin collection (2 black bin bag allowance) and weekly recycling and food waste collections with unlimited bags.

Scummy people further down the street have put bags of recycling and 4 black bin bags outside their house as they know they are away. Surely the point of limits is so that people recycle weekly and shouldn't need to have so much in their black bins at all. Tip local to us is a 10 min drive maximum.

YABU - Mind your own business and don't look out for your immediate neighbours
YANBU - Tell the bin men and report to the council as dumped waste.

OP posts:
TheOriginalEmu · 18/08/2024 02:59

Gogogo12345 · 17/08/2024 22:58

Yes I'm also in Essex and know about booking for tip. Also our council have given us black bins to put black bags into which are collected fortnightly and hold 2 or 3 bags max. If bin lid doesn't shut they won't take nor take any extra bags not in bin

We also have to book slots in South Wales. It started during lockdown which made sense, but now it’s staying. We are allowed 3 black bags per fortnight, and the can refuse to take them if judge them as too heavy 😒

TheOriginalEmu · 18/08/2024 02:47

AugustAlready · 15/08/2024 00:37

@TheOriginalEmu

i am so sorry to hear about your leg & chemo. How are you doing now?

WTF does your neighbour think she is policing your waste??

I hope you gave her what for & made her feel bad telling her you'd rather still have your keg than using lots of plastic to cope with your amputation/chemo?!?!

i'm steaming on your behalf!

Ah thanks lovely, I’m ok. I’m pretty much healed from surgery and chemo isn’t as bad as I’d feared. My hair is coming out so that’s going to need shaving soon. The hair has upset me more than the leg weirdly!
my neighbour is a dick of a human with the empathy levels of a rock. She also is claiming my cat trod in her newly laid cement on her drive and left a footprint in it. A) there are at least 4 other people in our immediate neighbouring houses with cats, how she can tell if was mine from a paw print I’m not sure. B) it’s clearly a dog print.
crazy woman 😂

CreativeOriginalUsername · 17/08/2024 23:29

We have one rubbish bin. Not even a black bin - it’s a 3/4 size bin. And it’s emptied once every 4 weeks. So two large refuse sacks to last a month. Been like that for 5 years.

It is fucking ridiculous.

Gogogo12345 · 17/08/2024 22:58

Topseyt123 · 15/08/2024 00:29

Not your business.

Not everyone can just drive to the dump or really wants bags of potentially stinky rubbish in their car.

Here in Essex you now have to make an appointment to get into the local dump. Yes, really. I believe too that it is a policy that was rolled out across the entire county, not just in our district. Often there are no same day appointments so you could have to wait a day or two, which wouldn't sit well with your ten minute run assumption.

If you want to complain about anything at all then complain to your local council about the two bags every three weeks limit. That's what is so ridiculous here, not your neighbours sneaking out an extra bag or two that has built up over that time

I think that council policies such as these probably contribute to the increase in fly tipping that we are currently seeing in various areas.

Yes I'm also in Essex and know about booking for tip. Also our council have given us black bins to put black bags into which are collected fortnightly and hold 2 or 3 bags max. If bin lid doesn't shut they won't take nor take any extra bags not in bin

Daisybuttercup12345 · 17/08/2024 22:50

LiterallyOnFire · 15/08/2024 00:10

"Just" do a run to the tip?

You know not everyone has a car or a license? Better in bins than flytipped or sitting around.

I'd find something else to worry about than other peoples refuse arrangements.

This.
Put a note on your fridge telling you to Mind your OWN Business. Then get on with life.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 16/08/2024 15:00

Demonhunter · 15/08/2024 00:36

2 bin bags every 3 weeks!!! I'd be doomed! I recycle everything I can but with 2 adults half the time, 2 teens, cat litter and a geriatric dog that gets through at least 6 puppy pads daily and LOTS of kitchen roll as there's a lot of cleaning to do daily, I'd be totally screwed. Why do you assume everyone can use only TWO BLACK BAGS every 3 weeks just because you can?

Edited

We had that issue, a lot of extra waste from having cats, two elderly, and the council gave us a roll of purple bags and allowed us to put out one extra a fortnight - as it was then, we have three weekly collections now, but it's three bags (four if we put out a purple bag), rather than two when it was fortnightly.

1offnamechange · 16/08/2024 13:45

But as pps have said there is a wider issue in that a 2 bag limit once every 3 weeks is too small for lots of households (albeit not uncommon in more and more councils) and will lead to flytipping etc.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 16/08/2024 13:43

toomuchfaff · 15/08/2024 11:43

So the scummy neighbours have just fly tipped a load rubbish outside elderly neighbours house that won't even get collected because it's not in a bin, and everyone telling you to mind your business... glad I don't live in their neighbourhood.

Yes you're right to think the neighbours are scum and right to try to protect the vulnerable elderly neighbours and right to report to try to solve the problem before it becomes an issue.

They don't have bins, the bin bags are collected from what I understand

1offnamechange · 16/08/2024 13:38

If it was 2 bags I'd say you were unreasonable because what difference does it make? The neighbours on holiday aren't using their 2 bag allowance so why shouldn't someone else.

however as they've put 4 bags out then it depends what will happen to the 2 extra ones. If your on-holiday neighbours will get fined for putting extra bags out or they'll just sit in the street for 3 weeks starting to stink then yes, either report to council or just stick them back by the owners door.

SunnyHedgehog · 16/08/2024 13:27

You're being unreasonable, sometimes I see that people have put bin bags in my wheelie bin (once I've already put it out for collection the next day). It's affecting no-one adversely, the refuse is already due to be collected so surely it's a non-issue?

Headinthesand21 · 16/08/2024 12:52

You are being unreasonable
At least it’s saved a trip to the tip
I think you have too much time on your hands TBH

toomuchfaff · 15/08/2024 11:43

So the scummy neighbours have just fly tipped a load rubbish outside elderly neighbours house that won't even get collected because it's not in a bin, and everyone telling you to mind your business... glad I don't live in their neighbourhood.

Yes you're right to think the neighbours are scum and right to try to protect the vulnerable elderly neighbours and right to report to try to solve the problem before it becomes an issue.

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 15/08/2024 10:52

Depends whether the provision is sensible or not. For example (when my DDs are at Uni) we have the same size black bin provision for two adults that our neighbours have for a household of five adults and two children, which is ridiculous.

123456abcdef · 15/08/2024 10:51

I understand why there are limits because it does encourage recycling but the 3 weeks is excessive and it's very arbitrary because it's 2 bags per house. Easy if you are a couple but harder if you've got a 5 people in your family and a couple of pets.

no you shouldn't put your rubbish out in front of someone else's house without asking.

Topseyt123 · 15/08/2024 10:48

chaosmaker · 15/08/2024 01:39

Sorry I was talking about this specific situation that is local to me and involves none of the issues mentioned.

No. You were assuming that everyone has to follow the same systems as you and that MN as a whole would agree with your judgemental "scummy" comment.

Now that it (the obvious) has been pointed out to you that refuse collection varies everywhere and that you were therefore implying that most of us are scummy, you are trying to backpedal.

Do you really have nothing better to do than curtain twitch to count how many rubbish bags your neighbours have put out?

Theweepywillow · 15/08/2024 10:29

How is 9t looking out for your neighbours 😂

Tmpnmc86 · 15/08/2024 10:26

Maybe the 'scummy' people are avoiding the emissions from an extra car trip. Assuming they have one and can 'just' pop to the tip.

gamerchick · 15/08/2024 09:58

chaosmaker · 15/08/2024 01:09

Also to the people talking about rats, what do you put out? We have a weekly food waste collection that is in a green bin. Everything in recycling should be rinsed out and then doesn't attract rats.

seriously dude.

You're assuming everyone is the same. We don't get food waste collections. Recycling is every 2 weeks, so is the main waste. Well it was, bin men have been striking on and off since Christmas. Skip runs have to be booked and then it's certain days going on your reg plate. That's if you have a car

2 bags every 3 weeks is a joke. Giving a shit what your neighbours are doing is a bit glum man. Why don't you do them a kindness and take their rubbish to the tip if it's so convenient.

Peonies12 · 15/08/2024 09:44

I can't believe how much rubbish some households have. We have one small bin bag a week, if that. People should have to pay based on their amount of waste, it needs to be incentivized.

Blackcats7 · 15/08/2024 09:44

I have never come across Bin Police before.

Jarstastic · 15/08/2024 09:32

“Scummy people”
for wanting to get rid of rubbish? (What if they couldn’t get to the tip and had their shed or garage full of rubbish or things in their garden?! Goodness knows what you’d call them then)

thank heavens we don’t have limits.
3-weekly collections is what I’d be more likely to call scummy. I think I’d organise private collections, or move.

Sleephound · 15/08/2024 08:28

We don't have black bags, but a small black wheely bin for general waste. Most weeks it's more than adequate, my parents barely use theirs at all, but if one of us is having a clear out, we'll use the other's bin space rather than go to the tip. The bin men are coming anyway, it's probably more efficient and less costly for the council, as well as for us, to do it that way.

The extra bag people probably agreed it with your neighbours before they went away. Some neighbours are actually nice to each other, rather than looking for fault.

CheeseWisely · 15/08/2024 08:27

YANBU - Tell the bin men and report to the council as dumped waste.

With kindness OP, get a hobby.

Unless the reason for your extraordinary level of interest in this is because you had designs on their empty bins for yourself and are pissed off that someone beat you to it?

Putthefanon · 15/08/2024 08:26

I honestly could not care less what my neighbours have in their bins. Do they even have bins? The only bins I pay any attention to are my own.

Universalsnail · 15/08/2024 08:24

I can't drive so I can't do a tip run. Sometimes I pop a bag in neighbours bins if there is space once they've put them out. Tbh aslong as all the rubbish gets taken I don't know why you would complain.

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