to feel quite shocked that DH has PTSD from teaching?

Unwatching this thread because Differentstarts has completely derailed and ruined it 🙄

You do realise the only thing iv actually said is put your health before any job. Which I think 99% of people would agree with so I don't know why that means I'm being an arse. Aren't we all a little bit old for the name calling though it's not necessary when having an adult conversation with someone or do you regularly talk to other people like this.

Stop what exactly? Replying to others that are addressing me or are you trying to say you don't want me positing on mumsnet.

Can you please stop now Different.

Why did you feel the need to do that on an online platform ?

Pull yourself together is an unhelpful comment but unfortunately the reality is if your in an episode it's you doing the work to get out of it

I don’t doubt the state of mental health services but people being told to pull themselves out of it is a really unhelpful comment.

Unfortunately this is the reality no-one is coming to save you. Mental health services in this country are not fit for purpose. It's like addiction their are services but it's you as the individual who is doing it.

‘Pull themselves out of a mental health crisis’ - this sort of language doesn’t help.

This 👏👏👏 people iv seen pull themselves out of a mental health crisis are some of the strongest people I know

Mental illness - or even “just” struggling emotionally - doesn’t ever mean anyone is weak. Quite the opposite.

I agree with so much of this.* *

He was being badly behaved, my son was in the wrong

There needs to be more parents like you. It would make such a difference!

Well that is exactly what I thought until teachers repeatedly wrote on this thread that I was offending them someone called me a twat, someone corrected my spelling and someone told everyone not to talk to me. I'm glad you put your health first and got out before your mh got any worse and that your now thriving and happy. Posts like this is exactly what needs to be shared you can leave, you can improve your life and you can be happy. Well done you did the right thing.

Edit:- This is for differentstarts - I don't know what happened with the multi quote.

I disagree with you entirely.

I was a high performer with Hewlett Packard for many years before I took VR. I then started a degree at 36 yrs old, passed with a first class, did a teaching degree then went onto gain a Ph.D (a Ph.D is one of the hardest things you can do with massive drop out rates). While finishing my Ph.D I spent two years teaching - it nearly broke me - two weeks off with burnout - I've never experienced that before in my career. I'm now at a private sector company (on nearly twice the money) and I'm absolutely flying - got promoted within 8 weeks of starting.

Teaching breaks many very strong people. To say a teacher that is struggling would struggle in any other career is categorically false. Teachers that leave the profession absolutely smash it in their new careers - you'll struggle to find any other worker that is as resilient as a teacher (emergency services excepted). When the government tried bumping teacher numbers up by recruiting and fast tracking from industry, 60% quit within the first two years.

This is so sad, to take a career to teach the next generation for everyones future and for all teachers by reading this post seem to feel the same. What a sad state of affairs for their mental health to be so extremely affected. Parents need to change parenting style and the education system needs to change back slightly.
my middle son has autism and attends a main stream school. He was being badly behaved, my son was in the wrong it was not to do with his autism but a bad attitude towards education, I told the school well you need to discipline him as I would at home and take away the things he enjoys and tell him x activity is a privilege, I was told that we do not use words like discipline or tell children that anything is a privilege with in school (I was talking about a computing class he dose at lunch twice a week)
this is not the teachers fault or really the head teacher, but words that have an impact like discipline should be used, this gives the child the realisation that they are infact in the wrong and need to earn trust back, the same things which should be at home. Same as praising good behaviour. But the ignoring or “gentle” approach isn’t always the way children will push boundaries all the time that is what they all do, but they do need guided when they are falling on to the wrong track

It’s nothing to do with being weak

indeed.

20 years ago, I was one of many Australian teachers who went to teach in the UK.

I loved the UK itself, but teaching in UK schools was an appalling experience. I’m now back in Aus with my British husband, and he knows that if we move back, I will never, ever teach in a UK school again. I’d rather do literally anything else.

My heart goes out to you and your husband, OP. I wish you both well as you deal with this.

Teachers as a profession tend to be conscientious.

This is where a lot of the mental health issues come from. They try to constantly do their best. But it’s undoable and so they crack.

It’s nothing to do with being weak.

I'm not surprised. This is my 25th year. I recall a training session on domestic violence and when I saw the slide about how the woman feels I was staggered. That's how it feels in the classroom when you are teaching children who respond violently.

The only difference is, I get to go home at the end of the day.

To the teachers on this thread, you’re not over sensitive or weak and we appreciate you whether you are sticking it out or you have left.

It is a massive problem that so many of you that have trained so hard to enter this profession are feeling forced to leave and shows how rotten things have got.

I really hope as a society we can move towards backing that verbal appreciation with real tangible change and achieve far better conditions in your working conditions. This will take the involvement of politicians, parents and taxpayers.

You do realise getting everyone to gang up on an individual for them having a difference of opinion is bullying right

Exactly this I don't want my children taught by people like that and I don't want people living like that and like iv previously said multiple times there needs to be systemic changes but that responsibility doesn't fall on any one individual so these people need to be protecting themselves and their families above anything else. Hopefully under a labour government things will improve only time will tell on that. But at somepoint you have to accept the things you can't change and focus on the things you can