to feel quite shocked that DH has PTSD from teaching?

Teachers who have been posting for years about the state of teaching always have their threads flooded with ‘well if you don’t like it, just quit’. This is immensely frustrating as it is usually just a way to dismiss the well-founded concerns of teachers. Along with ‘well not everyone is suited to teaching.’

Given that you have dismissed the fact that there will be kids without teachers in September because you think that your kids will be unaffected, this is exactly how you are coming across.

I don’t want to be that person, but this feels pretty degrading to those who genuinely suffer with ptsd and cptsd. It feels like everyone is commenting saying ‘I have ptsd from teaching too’ without understanding the actual horror, trauma and effects that ptsd has on a person. I truly understand teaching is difficult and most of you have mental health conditions and stress disorders based off of it - but throwing around ptsd is an entire different level than I believe what most of you have experienced. I was in an abusive relationship for years - I have diagnosed ptsd and when I tell you it affects the way your brain functions, your entire personality, even messes with your physical health. At my worst, I woke up screaming every single night thinking I was being suffocated, I couldn’t breathe, I couldn’t see, I couldn’t snap out of the delusion I was in, I was in an entire different realm - it is terrifying. Throwing around the term ‘ptsd’ like it’s some minor stress condition is actually awful and degrading to true suffers who struggle to function each day because of it. That being said, I hope to those of you in the educational field and teaching that it gets better for you all.

I'm hoping where past the days where people think ptsd is only something you get in the army.

I think without retraining or stepping down teaching is quite a hard qualification to use in anything else. As like health care their are so many different avenues to go down if your wanting to leave for e.g. nursing.

I can well believe it tbh. I don't think it helps that a lot of people associate PTSD with military combat (images of people picking up pieces of their friend after them standing on a landmine etc) when in fact it can be the result of many stressful situations.

It suits some. I don’t like it. It’s not a viable way to replace a full time salary though.

I'm guessing private tutoring is also the same aswell

I’ve done it. It’s just as bad. Just for different reasons.

Could you be more condescending?

The nhs does to their horrific

What about teaching adults if you enjoy the teaching part is that something you have thought about

I wonder why teaching attracts so many bullies? I’ve never heard of a profession with so many accusations of it.

I guess the flip side might be it attracts people who aren’t very resilient and feel bullied. I guess it essentially is run like a business and may not be the fluffy caring workplace they hoped for

Because I know nothing about teaching but I do know about mental health. And I know their will be teachers on this thread who have had thoughts of harming themselves rather then having to go to work. Iv been at that point of suicide attempts, being sectioned losing my children. All I'm saying is it's a job please remember that and put your health first before it's to late. I wouldn't of even commented on this thread if it was just teachers saying how hard their job is as i have no idea I'm not a teacher and have only done a few placements in primary schools and a sen school but obviously wasn't involved in ofsted or anything like that. I commented because it was a thread about ptsd and I know how much that destroys your life and it should be a good warning to others to not let things get that far even if it means walking away

I absolutely adore teaching but as time passes, it's glaringly obvious to see that there is a slow but steady decline in behaviour. Parents are often worse than the kids and we have no support from them whatsoever.

I've started thinking about other ways to use my qualifications that would bring me the same income. I don't think I can do this until retirement, far from it.

Another who isn't at all surprised OP.
I'm so sorry for your DH.
I am 15 yrs in and am feeling the strain. I work in secondary and in my department only 2 out of 6 are actual specialists - recruitment and retainment is at an all time low.
In this one academic year alone, 6 of my colleague friends have been struck - one so hard that knuckle marks were left in her face. Exclusions are always challenged so the culprits are now back with us (and have since attacked another pupil but that's another thread). Another he er colleague friend has a police complaint against him for pulling a 13 yr old girl off another girl - she'd attacked her and was gouging her eyes when he physically grabbed her. Parent has filed a police complaint and he's spending his summer dealing with that.

Staff simply aren't being believed and our word is no longer god enough.
So many delightful pupils but these are overshadowed by so so many individuals with emotional problems and behavioural instability. We no longer teach - we crowd control, firefight and provide emotional support before we even get to do the register.
It isn't uncommon for us to lock ourselves into classes to be able to have uninterrupted lessons.

You don’t seem that supportive though. You haven’t recognised any of the points various teachers have made.

But this is the point it doesn't all fall on you to fix it so don't burn yourself out over a job your worth so much more then that. If theirs aspects of the job you enjoy that's different but if your at a point of multiple panic attacks a day, suicidal thoughts, harming yourself, having flashbacks ect ect it's time to walk away. I have had multiple people i was close to end their life and the thought that some people do it over a job that they really could of walked away from with a bit of support is absolutely heartbreaking.

I should add that these systems make life unbearable for staff too who have to deal with needless conflict and stress instead of dealing with actual learning.

@FriendlyRobin you are so right about the alienation of some children by OTT sanctions systems. My son is autistic and quickly worked out that if he was late (getting to avoid the others and crowds coming in) he would get after school detention and thus avoid them on the way out too. Things like being kept it at dinner or put in isolation were heaven to him and he dreamed of getting suspended so he didn't have to go at all that day. He hated tight collars and instead of applying common sense and making a reasonable adjustment for him as now happens with his brother at a different school they just went all out with consequences. The "computer says no" approach to sanctions just made his behaviour and attitude far worse than it need have been and he left school with minimal qualifications. If you're going to get the book thrown at you anyway it might as well be spectacular right?

Yes, I’m hoping is too. I don’t want anyone else to go through what I have.

’my solution’ doesn’t imply I’ll do it myself. Just that it needs to happen or the situation will get worse.

Hopefully this government will improve thing for you all.

And how you going to do that because hasn't it been like this for decades

There’s a recruitment and retention crisis and has been for years. The last government did not step up.

My children do have actual teachers for September but it is not your responsibility whether their is enough teachers in the whole of the uk maybe if more of you left the government might actually step up and change things