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SSpratt · 2024-08-14T21:41:39+00:00

[[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg35w27gzno https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg35w27gzno]] Not sure how worried to be about the latest news on MPox (previously Monkey Pox). A couple of years ago I had some minor surgery and there were warnings/advice posters all over the hospital about this disease, then it all died down. Anyone worried about catching it? I wasn’t until I read that it can be caught from talking to someone, originally we were told that it was spread via sexual contact.

RafaistheKingofClay · 15/08/2024 01:35

Firefly1987 · 15/08/2024 01:02

There was always a more fatal one IIRC but that never really made it out of one area. Is it a version of that or a completely new one?

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My understanding is that it’s a version of that but it has spread out of that area and is epidemic in several countries and they don’t really know why. The PHEIC is because, that being the case, it has the potential to spread beyond the continent.

CobraChicken · 15/08/2024 01:28

Drizzlethru · 15/08/2024 01:25

Well we waited until covid was established in the UK before limiting entry into the country …. And then went into lockdown. An awful time. So hope they have better plans for this disease which is a much more serious strain and sounds like no vaccine, treatment and is spread by talking to someone even.

Not true about no vaccine. There's an effective one being used here in Canada (and probably elsewhere) already.

Drizzlethru · 15/08/2024 01:25

Well we waited until covid was established in the UK before limiting entry into the country …. And then went into lockdown. An awful time. So hope they have better plans for this disease which is a much more serious strain and sounds like no vaccine, treatment and is spread by talking to someone even.

CobraChicken · 15/08/2024 01:22

RafaistheKingofClay · 15/08/2024 00:42

Re: monkey pox. I’d leave worrying about that to the government right now and hope that they have learnt something from the pandemic (we can hope right?). There’s no evidence it’s anywhere outside of Africa yet, so your risk right now is pretty low.

It’s a different group to the Mpox from a couple of years ago. This seems to be spreading rapidly and they aren’t exactly sure how. And has a higher fatality rate. They are better thought of as two different diseases at this point.

It's spreading in Canada right now. Still relatively low numbers, and mostly in Toronto and Vancouver, but enough to be concerning.

LoveRosesClimbing · 15/08/2024 01:10

The UK statistics are easy to Google.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/monkeypox-outbreak-epidemiological-overview/mpox-monkeypox-outbreak-epidemiological-overview-8-august-2024

There is global surveillance and has been a lot of genome sequencing of the virus since the 2022 outbreak, so there is already some understanding of it, which should be reassuring. The WHO are being very responsible in how they are handling it.

Firefly1987 · 15/08/2024 01:02

RafaistheKingofClay · 15/08/2024 00:42

Re: monkey pox. I’d leave worrying about that to the government right now and hope that they have learnt something from the pandemic (we can hope right?). There’s no evidence it’s anywhere outside of Africa yet, so your risk right now is pretty low.

It’s a different group to the Mpox from a couple of years ago. This seems to be spreading rapidly and they aren’t exactly sure how. And has a higher fatality rate. They are better thought of as two different diseases at this point.

There was always a more fatal one IIRC but that never really made it out of one area. Is it a version of that or a completely new one?

WingingItSince1973 · 15/08/2024 00:56

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/08/2024 00:50

Can the derailers have a different thread? Please.

That would be a good idea!

BarraNayk · 15/08/2024 00:53

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MrsTerryPratchett · 15/08/2024 00:50

Can the derailers have a different thread? Please.

RafaistheKingofClay · 15/08/2024 00:48

WhereIsMyWhippetAndFlatcap · 15/08/2024 00:44

You're right she didn't say to burn refugees in hotels. She posted saying not protect mosques and blow mosques up with the adults in it.

I can understand why that's been taken as inciting violence. A lot of us were and are angry about the riots, anger can be expressed without posting for people to be blown up.

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I think @MissEsmeWatson was referring to the other woman.

Edit: wrong quote. Meant to quote @LaurieFairyCake. should probably just give up and go to bed at this point 😂

LaurieFairyCake · 15/08/2024 00:47

It's crossed wires, we're writing about 2 different women

Both pretty nasty racists 🤷‍♀️

RafaistheKingofClay · 15/08/2024 00:46

LaurieFairyCake · 15/08/2024 00:39

That quote of the tweet is completely correct - I checked it on the daily mail, the guardian, and lbc

It's exactly as I've put

Didn’t mean it to sound like I was doubting you. She could easily have said that too.

LaurieFairyCake · 15/08/2024 00:45

I'm writing about Lucie Connolly (wife of a Tory counsellor) who is a childminder -
and has just been remanded

WhereIsMyWhippetAndFlatcap · 15/08/2024 00:44

MissEsmeWatson · 15/08/2024 00:30

But she didn't say that at all.

You're right she didn't say to burn refugees in hotels. She posted saying not protect mosques and blow mosques up with the adults in it.

I can understand why that's been taken as inciting violence. A lot of us were and are angry about the riots, anger can be expressed without posting for people to be blown up.

Firefly1987 · 15/08/2024 00:44

Don't know what to think really-I followed the MP outbreak a year or two ago, I remember some guy had it and it was the sickest he'd ever been, really painful. Everyone recovered in the UK though. Hopefully it's much of the same, agree it's worrying though if it's more contagious and has a higher death rate.

LaurieFairyCake · 15/08/2024 00:43

Pandora - that's a different woman

MonsteraMama · 15/08/2024 00:43

MissEsmeWatson · 14/08/2024 23:46

While you're worrying about that you won't be worrying about a carer in her fifties writing something in anger on a Facebook group and getting banged up for over a year for it.

Welcome to Earth, here we are capable of worrying about more than one topic at a time.

RafaistheKingofClay · 15/08/2024 00:42

Re: monkey pox. I’d leave worrying about that to the government right now and hope that they have learnt something from the pandemic (we can hope right?). There’s no evidence it’s anywhere outside of Africa yet, so your risk right now is pretty low.

It’s a different group to the Mpox from a couple of years ago. This seems to be spreading rapidly and they aren’t exactly sure how. And has a higher fatality rate. They are better thought of as two different diseases at this point.

PandoraSox · 15/08/2024 00:41

LaurieFairyCake · 15/08/2024 00:39

That quote of the tweet is completely correct - I checked it on the daily mail, the guardian, and lbc

It's exactly as I've put

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/14/woman-53-jailed-over-blow-the-mosque-up-facebook-post-after-southport-riots

CarpeVitam · 15/08/2024 00:40

Well that went 'off topic' quickly! 🙄

LaurieFairyCake · 15/08/2024 00:39

That quote of the tweet is completely correct - I checked it on the daily mail, the guardian, and lbc

It's exactly as I've put

RafaistheKingofClay · 15/08/2024 00:37

No she said a mosque shouldn’t be protected but should be blown up with people inside it, which is obviously a much nicer thing to say.

LaurieFairyCake · 15/08/2024 00:36

"Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f hotels full of the b* for all I care, while you're at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them."

The above is exactly what she said in the tweet

There's absolutely no wiggle room for nuance in that ^^

MissEsmeWatson · 15/08/2024 00:30

But she didn't say that at all.

polyvinyl · 15/08/2024 00:28

LaurieFairyCake · 15/08/2024 00:15

Oh yay! She got remanded! Excellent - shouldn't have called for all refugees to be burned in the hotels then

Hope she gets convicted and a nice long stretch for being a racist, evil cunt

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