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SSpratt · 14/08/2024 22:41

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg35w27gzno

Not sure how worried to be about the latest news on MPox (previously Monkey Pox). A couple of years ago I had some minor surgery and there were warnings/advice posters all over the hospital about this disease, then it all died down. Anyone worried about catching it? I wasn’t until I read that it can be caught from talking to someone, originally we were told that it was spread via sexual contact.

A young girl with mpox lesions on her arms and legs during an outbreak in DR Congo in 2022

WHO declares Mpox global health emergency

Scientists are alarmed at the high fatality rate and rapid spread of a new variant of the virus.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg35w27gzno

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namechangeforthisi · 16/08/2024 06:18

If there is one it will be a scarier one

Coffeeandacupcake · 16/08/2024 06:02

Does anyone think there will be lockdowns again? Really hope not, my elderly mother didn't cope well & children cannot miss out on education like they did in previous lockdowns...

IMustDoMoreExercise · 15/08/2024 20:50

LaurieFairyCake · 15/08/2024 00:36

"Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f hotels full of the b* for all I care, while you're at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them."

The above is exactly what she said in the tweet

There's absolutely no wiggle room for nuance in that ^^

No, that was someone else.

A Tory councillor's wife I think.

Viviennemary · 15/08/2024 20:24

It sounds a horrific disease. I saw it on the news last night.

CortieTat · 15/08/2024 20:22

The new variant is in Sweden now, we’ve already had the covid-style press conference about it.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 15/08/2024 19:43

Ineffable23 · 15/08/2024 04:39

If I remember correctly the mpox vaccine is essentially a smallpox vaccine. So there were stocks of it in e.g. the UK but perhaps not elsewhere.

I need to do some reading but my usual measure of how worried I should be comes from a friend who works in health emergency planning. The person in question worries about everything: the weather, infectious diseases, the state of hospitals. They have not worried at me at all about mpox so currently I'd say not too concerned.

Yep it's the smallpox vaccine.

So previously very widely used and well researched.

It's already available in the UK for some people (men who have sex with men). You can book on the NHS website.

LoveRosesClimbing · 15/08/2024 19:37

The BBC is reporting a first case of the new variant in Sweden now. The health systems that mpox will begin to be found in, and baseline population levels of health in those countries will all be really different. The experience and impact of the same infection will be more and less severe in different economies.

The vaccines and treatments must be quickly made available in the countries in the Aftican continent that need them. So many people will be exposed in situations where they don’t have the same health resources to deal with the infection that we will be able to rely on here in the UK or in other richer countries.

RafaistheKingofClay · 15/08/2024 12:11

60% of cases are in children. People really need to stop going on about men who have sex with men.

Trail374 · 15/08/2024 08:54

Turophilic · 15/08/2024 08:38

As the BBC article said most common source of contagion was sex between men and its mostly in central Africa, I didn’t think it was something we needed to fret about just yet.

I know the type 2 is more contagious and more dangerous, but we also have existing vaccines to work on, unlike Covid.

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That was a less contagious and dangerous strain that spread to Asia and Europe.

This is about the new strain:-

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2vv0pgggqzo

LiesLiesEverywhere · 15/08/2024 08:45

‘WHO declares mpox global health emergency’

Fool me once…

Turophilic · 15/08/2024 08:38

Trail374 · 15/08/2024 08:19

I think you need to read up a little more on it.

Mpox is transmitted through close contact, such as sex, skin-to-skin contact and talking or breathing close to another person.

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As the BBC article said most common source of contagion was sex between men and its mostly in central Africa, I didn’t think it was something we needed to fret about just yet.

I know the type 2 is more contagious and more dangerous, but we also have existing vaccines to work on, unlike Covid.

CosmicDaisyChain · 15/08/2024 08:37

LaurieFairyCake · 15/08/2024 00:45

I'm writing about Lucie Connolly (wife of a Tory counsellor) who is a childminder -
and has just been remanded

Then maybe make a thread about it?

User050105 · 15/08/2024 08:26

My son is going to central Africa next month. I am (slightly) worried about it. He'll still go and have a great time I'm sure, but I'll still be keeping a close eye on the news and health reports.

wishIwasonholiday10 · 15/08/2024 08:25

Turophilic · 15/08/2024 04:46

As I’m not a man having sex with other men in a Central African country, no, OP, I’m not overly worried about catching it.

It is also spread through close physical contact and would spread very rapidly through children in a nursery setting for example so it would be something to worry about it it became more widespread. Hopefully we could get ahead of it with vaccination if needed.

Trail374 · 15/08/2024 08:21

Also

“WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said the potential for further spread within Africa and beyond "is very worrying".

Trail374 · 15/08/2024 08:19

Turophilic · 15/08/2024 04:46

As I’m not a man having sex with other men in a Central African country, no, OP, I’m not overly worried about catching it.

I think you need to read up a little more on it.

Mpox is transmitted through close contact, such as sex, skin-to-skin contact and talking or breathing close to another person.

Turophilic · 15/08/2024 04:46

As I’m not a man having sex with other men in a Central African country, no, OP, I’m not overly worried about catching it.

Ineffable23 · 15/08/2024 04:39

If I remember correctly the mpox vaccine is essentially a smallpox vaccine. So there were stocks of it in e.g. the UK but perhaps not elsewhere.

I need to do some reading but my usual measure of how worried I should be comes from a friend who works in health emergency planning. The person in question worries about everything: the weather, infectious diseases, the state of hospitals. They have not worried at me at all about mpox so currently I'd say not too concerned.

namechangeforthisi · 15/08/2024 04:20

namechangeforthisi · 15/08/2024 02:27

There's been 13700 cases since the start of the year, compared with somewhere over 10000 covid cases in the UK within 3 months of the initial outbreak. So that seems reassuring to me on how infectious it is. It's a bit worrying though

Sorry, that's wrong information, it's that number of cases in one country

namechangeforthisi · 15/08/2024 02:27

There's been 13700 cases since the start of the year, compared with somewhere over 10000 covid cases in the UK within 3 months of the initial outbreak. So that seems reassuring to me on how infectious it is. It's a bit worrying though

RafaistheKingofClay · 15/08/2024 02:00

I think part of the issue is that there isn’t enough vaccine. And it’s going to be difficult to get countries to give up some of their supply to poorer African countries that need it. Even though that’s where it would do most good right now

Drizzlethru · 15/08/2024 01:57

And Africa also can get vaccines!

Drizzlethru · 15/08/2024 01:56

CobraChicken · 15/08/2024 01:28

Not true about no vaccine. There's an effective one being used here in Canada (and probably elsewhere) already.

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Oh that is good to hear! Hope UK has stocks

Willyoujustbequiet · 15/08/2024 01:54

So on top of a possible WW3 coming out of Ukraine and the middle east, endemic violence against women and girls, people being stabbed all over the place and riots on the streets....we now face another deadly pandemic.

Anyone else feel we are coming to the End of Days? Only half joking.

Namechangedforthis25 · 15/08/2024 01:38

What have the comments about mosques or refugees being blown up got to do with mpox - can you move to a different thread

re mpox - there is a vaccine in the West but not Africa. That was rolled out pretty quickly in 2022 in the UK for the previous strain so hopefully they can immobilise that now?