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SSpratt · 14/08/2024 22:41

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg35w27gzno

Not sure how worried to be about the latest news on MPox (previously Monkey Pox). A couple of years ago I had some minor surgery and there were warnings/advice posters all over the hospital about this disease, then it all died down. Anyone worried about catching it? I wasn’t until I read that it can be caught from talking to someone, originally we were told that it was spread via sexual contact.

A young girl with mpox lesions on her arms and legs during an outbreak in DR Congo in 2022

WHO declares Mpox global health emergency

Scientists are alarmed at the high fatality rate and rapid spread of a new variant of the virus.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg35w27gzno

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floatingislands · 18/08/2024 15:06

CobraChicken · 15/08/2024 01:22

It's spreading in Canada right now. Still relatively low numbers, and mostly in Toronto and Vancouver, but enough to be concerning.

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That's the older less severe version of Mpox. No known cases of the one the WHO issued the global public health emergency warning about, as yet.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 18/08/2024 15:04

As I said, smallpox vaccination.

floatingislands · 18/08/2024 15:04

RafaistheKingofClay · 15/08/2024 00:42

Re: monkey pox. I’d leave worrying about that to the government right now and hope that they have learnt something from the pandemic (we can hope right?). There’s no evidence it’s anywhere outside of Africa yet, so your risk right now is pretty low.

It’s a different group to the Mpox from a couple of years ago. This seems to be spreading rapidly and they aren’t exactly sure how. And has a higher fatality rate. They are better thought of as two different diseases at this point.

It's been found in Sweden and in Pakistan...

Namechangedforthis25 · 18/08/2024 14:56

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 18/08/2024 08:28

I'm from a country that vaccinated for smallpox quite a bit later than the UK, so yay me I'm relatively well protected.

Not that I'm remotely likely to be shagging or sharing towels with a poxy person.

But you could be sitting next to them at work or in a public place?

What has shagging got to do with it - different strain!

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 18/08/2024 08:28

I'm from a country that vaccinated for smallpox quite a bit later than the UK, so yay me I'm relatively well protected.

Not that I'm remotely likely to be shagging or sharing towels with a poxy person.

quickturtle · 18/08/2024 08:25

Aussieland · 18/08/2024 08:24

And the incubation period is several weeks. That would be tens of thousands of people at a time. It’s not impossible as we know but incredibly hard to organise and as with Covid it would fairly quickly be coming from all over the world and therefore stopping people from certain countries would be pointless. A widespread vaccination program (starting in at risk countries) and lots of education would be more helpful

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Exactly. It didn't stop covid

Aussieland · 18/08/2024 08:24

quickturtle · 18/08/2024 08:06

It's probably already in the country

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And the incubation period is several weeks. That would be tens of thousands of people at a time. It’s not impossible as we know but incredibly hard to organise and as with Covid it would fairly quickly be coming from all over the world and therefore stopping people from certain countries would be pointless. A widespread vaccination program (starting in at risk countries) and lots of education would be more helpful

weareallqueens · 18/08/2024 08:15

I'm not overly concerned - I think the media is still enjoying creating a bit of a health frenzy - but the timing is unfortunate, just coming out of the school holidays. I wonder if it'd be a good idea to get schools to keep an eye out for symptoms, as there will be school pupils who have spent time in infected areas.

quickturtle · 18/08/2024 08:06

BorgQueen · 16/08/2024 18:50

Surely anyone coming from/transiting via an affected country should be quarantined until they are ‘safe’ ? That would prevent any lockdown scenarios occuring.

It's probably already in the country

quickturtle · 18/08/2024 08:05

nats2010 · 14/08/2024 23:29

OMG I'm so sorry but this made me laugh so so much lmao 🤣 thanks for the entertainment lol

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It's not that funny

Gingernaut · 18/08/2024 08:04

Coffeeandacupcake · 16/08/2024 23:08

@Gingernaut did they mention lockdowns or how exactly the world is going to respond to the threat of monkey pox?

No, but they did report on the fact that there are two manufacturers who could make the vaccines, no one has ordered much and the worry about Western/richer nations hoarding the vaccines, instead of sending vaccines to the affected and much poorer countries

No talk of lockdowns, but travel bans to affected countries reared it's ugly head

Coffeeandacupcake · 16/08/2024 23:08

@Gingernaut did they mention lockdowns or how exactly the world is going to respond to the threat of monkey pox?

Gingernaut · 16/08/2024 22:39

The World Tonight featured this tonight

It's a disease of intimacy and poverty with children being some of the victims - close contact, sneezing, coughing, skin to skin contact and contact with contaminated objects, fabric and other surfaces

Hundreds are dead and tens of thousands are infected, with rare vaccines not exactly pouring out of the factories

AngelusBell · 16/08/2024 22:26

CobaltQueen · 14/08/2024 23:08

Not worried at all. We had all this hype over MP a few months back and it disappeared from all media. I don't believe it is anything to worry about.

This is a new and more contagious strain. I’m not panicking but watching with interest.

AgileGreenSeal · 16/08/2024 18:53

I don’t think people would stand for all that nonsense again after the lying and deceit was so apparent the last time.

AgileGreenSeal · 16/08/2024 18:51

No, not worried in the least.

BorgQueen · 16/08/2024 18:50

Surely anyone coming from/transiting via an affected country should be quarantined until they are ‘safe’ ? That would prevent any lockdown scenarios occuring.

CobaltQueen · 16/08/2024 18:40

It's a storm in a teacup.
There will be no lockdowns as nobody would comply and the economy only now getting back on its feet.
I wish the media would stop scaremongering all the time.

pgtips2 · 16/08/2024 11:18

CrunchyCarrot · 16/08/2024 07:20

Yes. This isn't new in Africa either, WHO should have been more proactive in getting vaccines to them before now.

We are fortunate to have existing vaccines (the smallpox one - ACAM2000 that has quite a lot of side effects, and the more modern Jynneos which has fewer.)

Saw an anti-vaxxer on X trying to whip up people's fears by saying the Covid vaccines contained an adenovirus from monkeys and that's why mpox was spreading! mpox is a Poxviridae virus, not an Adenovirus! So the idiocy is still carrying on. I don't think I can stand another round of mis and dis information.

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but isn't it the case that there is a massive resistance to vaccination in those countries including DR Congo? That's a really difficult situation to deal with, massive education campaign.

BeaRF75 · 16/08/2024 09:41

Utterly tedious. But bizarrely, some people (hypochondriacs?) love to make a drama where no such thing exists.

PandoraSox · 16/08/2024 09:39

Bloody hell @CrunchyCarrot . Idiots. I bet someone starts a thread soon, the anti-vaxxers always pop up on MN sooner or later.

CrunchyCarrot · 16/08/2024 07:20

FindingMeno · 16/08/2024 07:07

Rather than fretting about how it might affect us, we should be fretting about getting vaccines and treatment to the children of DR Congo. A 10% mortality rate in children is heartbreaking.

Yes. This isn't new in Africa either, WHO should have been more proactive in getting vaccines to them before now.

We are fortunate to have existing vaccines (the smallpox one - ACAM2000 that has quite a lot of side effects, and the more modern Jynneos which has fewer.)

Saw an anti-vaxxer on X trying to whip up people's fears by saying the Covid vaccines contained an adenovirus from monkeys and that's why mpox was spreading! mpox is a Poxviridae virus, not an Adenovirus! So the idiocy is still carrying on. I don't think I can stand another round of mis and dis information.

FindingMeno · 16/08/2024 07:07

Rather than fretting about how it might affect us, we should be fretting about getting vaccines and treatment to the children of DR Congo. A 10% mortality rate in children is heartbreaking.

Userxyd · 16/08/2024 06:58

Greytulips · 16/08/2024 06:28

For no lockdown you’d have to rely on people who have had known contact to stay away from others.

The biggest spread of Covid here was one person who didn’t want to miss out on new year knowing they had it.

Maybe it should be the responsibility of the known case to stay away or risk imprisonment.

As opposed to locking everyone else away.

But your example proves we can't rely on infected individuals to self isolate?

Greytulips · 16/08/2024 06:28

For no lockdown you’d have to rely on people who have had known contact to stay away from others.

The biggest spread of Covid here was one person who didn’t want to miss out on new year knowing they had it.

Maybe it should be the responsibility of the known case to stay away or risk imprisonment.

As opposed to locking everyone else away.