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12 year old obsessed with Jacqueline Wilson books.. Aibu to think there is better out there?

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Breakdancing · 14/08/2024 12:58

My 12 year old has come back from the library with another stack of Jacqueline Wilson books. I've flicked through some & they are mildly inappropriate but are in the young readers section.. I love that she is a bookworm but aibu to be annoyed with her obsession with Jacqueline Wilson?

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EI12 · 29/08/2024 00:46

Don't worry, I was obsessed with Guy de Maupassant at her age. Sounds awful, I know, my parents had words with me, but both Guy and Jaqueline are nothing like what they see online these days.

titchy · 19/08/2024 09:54

I was hoping she would be reading more educational books during the summer

Do you want to read education books when you're on holiday?

Grammarnut · 19/08/2024 09:51

mollyfolk · 19/08/2024 00:11

Divorce, foster care, child abandonment, adoption, mental health issues. That kind of thing.

They seem appropriate topics, though I'd have been bored stiff by them. I wanted adventure, and swash-and-buckle at twelve, not angst in a bed-and-breakfast hotel. I still do prefer swash-and-buckle, come to think of it - am bored stiff by literary novels that explore a marriage etc.

Porcuine20 · 19/08/2024 08:46

I’d honestly be overjoyed if my 13 year old (and 10 year old) read anything without being nagged. When I take them to the library with me you should hear the moaning. I read some JW books to my daughter and quite enjoyed them.. I was a big Judy Blume fan back in the day though.

YellowphantGrey · 19/08/2024 08:45

mollyfolk · 19/08/2024 00:11

Divorce, foster care, child abandonment, adoption, mental health issues. That kind of thing.

Sadly, the themes you've mentioned are relatable to a lot of children. If they are dealing with those situations, surely it's a good thing that a child in any of those circumstances knows they are not alone.

SneezyPup · 19/08/2024 08:11

I remember reading the JW books obsessively as a child. I loved them and the fact they were topics/family situations usually avoided for children. I had a tricky childhood and it made me feel normal but I think they also showed me what like can be like for other children and opened eyes in a good way. There are a few I'd avoid- the Love Letters one about the relationship with a teacher and the Illustrated Mum with the suicide attempt. Probably some others too but those are the ones I remember being very full on.

cjsxx · 19/08/2024 07:50

I absolutely loved those books at that age. Didn't do me any harm Smile

Beezknees · 19/08/2024 07:48

mollyfolk · 19/08/2024 00:11

Divorce, foster care, child abandonment, adoption, mental health issues. That kind of thing.

A lot of children go through those things in their childhood. I did, and it was so nice to read books that I could relate to.

Even for children who don't go through those things I think it's great that they can read about them to understand what some other children have experienced in life.

BeachParty · 19/08/2024 01:36

mollyfolk · 19/08/2024 00:11

Divorce, foster care, child abandonment, adoption, mental health issues. That kind of thing.

12 years old can easily have had to cope with divorce, or foster care etc though.
If it's written age appropriately, what's the problem?

mollyfolk · 19/08/2024 00:11

Pottlee · 17/08/2024 22:03

Can someone please enlighten me as to what the inappropriate subjects in JW books are? We are not at that stage/age yet, so I’d love to know what to expect. TIA

Divorce, foster care, child abandonment, adoption, mental health issues. That kind of thing.

aquaspot · 18/08/2024 21:34

Needmorelego · 18/08/2024 19:29

@aquaspot that particular book is one aimed at older readers. They really shouldn't have had it in a primary school library. Bit naughty of them.

Maybe one of the previous posters above who say 12 is too old for JW and presume they’re all for primary age work there!

Needmorelego · 18/08/2024 19:29

@aquaspot that particular book is one aimed at older readers. They really shouldn't have had it in a primary school library. Bit naughty of them.

Grammarnut · 18/08/2024 19:21

Nadeed · 17/08/2024 23:43

I loved E Nesbit as a child. But i would have liked to read about children living the kind of life I did. Back then children's books were always middle class families.

I read and enjoyed E. Nesbit. I wanted to read about children who had different, more interesting, richer lives than I had, living in one-room accommodation and grotty flats in the London of the 50s and 60s. I learned to love history and also that there were other worlds I could aspire to outside the narrow confines of my life - although I did enjoy a book called 'Songbirds Grove' about a boy who lives in rented rooms and discovers that the steet he lives in is the last remaining work of an eighteenth century architect called Songbird, and saves it from demolition to be replaced by a tower block (helped along my ideas about art and architecture, too). I remember in the 70s you could suddenly get 'Nippers' which were about 'working-class' life; but they were not - they were middle-class ideas about working-class life. I suspect I might have liked some of Jacqueline Wilson's books - I never came across Judy Blume except possibly 'Hello God, It's Me, Margaret' and the title would have put me off, I'm afraid. I wanted adventure and derring-do, conspiracies in Italian courts, adventures in the debatable lands of Westmorland and Dumfriesshire etc. Books about kids on an estate with money and parent problems would never have appealed - boring, and I knew all about that, thanks, and wanted to get away from it, both figuratively and literally.

aquaspot · 18/08/2024 18:57

Pottlee · 17/08/2024 22:03

Can someone please enlighten me as to what the inappropriate subjects in JW books are? We are not at that stage/age yet, so I’d love to know what to expect. TIA

My DD came back with one from the school library when she was in year 5 and it was about a student-teacher relationship - I’m very glad I saw it and read the back before she read it!

JW writes books for different age groups, from younger children to teens.

godmum56 · 18/08/2024 15:53

Britinme · 17/08/2024 21:16

I loved E Nesbit when I was a child, but I was a child in the 1950s and the world has changed quite a lot since then.

I was a child in the 1950's too and thought them dull

Nadeed · 17/08/2024 23:43

I loved E Nesbit as a child. But i would have liked to read about children living the kind of life I did. Back then children's books were always middle class families.

JudgeJ · 17/08/2024 22:15

Alltheyearround · 14/08/2024 13:17

Oh god, I'd forgotten about Judy Blume and all the horror books I avidly consumed as a young teen. Totally not appropriate but guess mum thought if she banned them they might only become more attractive.

I grew out of James Herbert and Steven King too.

I recall my two devouring the Judy Blume books, they were the very popular ones then, before JW I think.

Grammarnut · 17/08/2024 22:12

pollymere · 17/08/2024 19:22

Actually mine hated E Nesbit (and Harry Potter actually). They read Secret Garden and tried to read When Hitler Stole Pink Rabbit and then found their own books. I don't think kids particularly like Nesbit - they find her old-fashioned. Dodie Smith has also fallen out of favour.

Mine have been reading Anime/Manga and teaching themselves Japanese for the last couple of years!

The sort of kid who likes history would like E Nesbit, I think. And understand they are contemporary novels - which is a good thing to understand for later study of literature.
Dodie Smith is 30s so less likely to be readable now than books written at the turn of the last century. Distance adds charm - I thought Dodie Smith old-fashioned in the early 60s. E Nesbit I understood was writing in a quite different time-zone as well as about a different social class from mine.

Potsnpotz · 17/08/2024 22:05

Pottlee · 17/08/2024 22:03

Can someone please enlighten me as to what the inappropriate subjects in JW books are? We are not at that stage/age yet, so I’d love to know what to expect. TIA

I’m a JW fan but I know some people don’t like topics she covers like divorce, domestic abuse, foster care, abandonment, parents having toxic boyfriends/girlfriend etc.

Pottlee · 17/08/2024 22:03

Can someone please enlighten me as to what the inappropriate subjects in JW books are? We are not at that stage/age yet, so I’d love to know what to expect. TIA

Britinme · 17/08/2024 21:16

I loved E Nesbit when I was a child, but I was a child in the 1950s and the world has changed quite a lot since then.

pollymere · 17/08/2024 19:22

Grammarnut · 17/08/2024 13:17

I always think JKR (whose stance on women's rights I wholly support - great woman!) is the equivalent of Enid Blyton. Her tales, like Blyton's, do not conceal the magic from e.g. the Dursleys, and the magic is accepted and used by all the adults, they being wizards and witches - her parallel universe does not hide in plain sight, it sort of wriggles through reality in ways that must be cleared up by magic occasionally. Edith Nesbit, on the other hand, has the magic concealed, the world of the children is a private world that meets the adult world only on occasion. For example, there is a bit in 'Five Children and It' where angels' wings are requested and a man sees the children flying, thus giving him a spiritual experience leading to him being nice to his wife. There is also the horrific moment in 'The Enchanted Castle' where dummies come to life - the children pass it off as using strings; luckily only servants saw this (Nesbit's attitude to servants is Victorian but does illustrate how early 'socialists' saw the working classes, which is of interest in itself). Apart from these examples (which are central parts of the plot) the magic is in parallel entirely so that, again in 'Five Children and It', the children inhabit a besieged castle whilst the servants go on with preparing lunch around them. Nesbit definitely writes better than Blyton or JKR in 'Harry Potter' (and had as peculiar and unsettling a home life as Blyton partly expressed in her books, for the children are frequently left to their own devices by busy or absent parents) and I would recommend her books to yr 6 and yr 7 children (DD - well beyond those years - still reads them). JKR is better in the Strike books, but still involved in convoluted plots (not something I care to criticise, since I like complex plots).

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Actually mine hated E Nesbit (and Harry Potter actually). They read Secret Garden and tried to read When Hitler Stole Pink Rabbit and then found their own books. I don't think kids particularly like Nesbit - they find her old-fashioned. Dodie Smith has also fallen out of favour.

Mine have been reading Anime/Manga and teaching themselves Japanese for the last couple of years!

RedOnyx · 17/08/2024 18:43

pollymere · 17/08/2024 12:16

@RedOnyx You are probably right - I just let mine read anything in the teen section.

I might have read them at 12 but if the OP is worried about Jacqueline Wilson she's definitely not going to want her child reading One of Us Is Lying 😅 (they are great books though).

Ukrainebaby23 · 17/08/2024 15:21

Breakdancing · 14/08/2024 13:14

That's a very good point! It drives me mad as she's very academic but is just obsessed with J. W.. I was hoping she would be reading more educational books during the summer 😩

Be happy she's not trolling the streets doing far less appropriate activities than reading. Lots of 12 yrs old will be hanging round shopping centres and parks doing gkw.

Britinme · 17/08/2024 15:00

No books have been banned by any libraries or schools here in Maine that I know of, though I can't of course answer for individual home-schoolers. But we are a fairly liberal New England state and it tends to be the red states where that happens.