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To have just wanted a relaxing massage?

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Salumthecat · 13/08/2024 20:06

I suffer from severe anxiety and have a lot of tension in my back, shoulders and legs, I also have plantar fasciitis which can be excruciatingly painful.

I started booking regular massages with a woman who runs her own business. To start with I found it a really relaxing experience and it relieved pain and left me feeling less stressed but after the first few massages things changed.

During a massage I want to clear my mind and relax and enjoy the experience but the therapist started becoming really chatty. She was asking lots of questions about if I had any holidays planned, do I have any children, talking out her own life and family, stuff she’s watched on tv etc…
i felt it’d be rude to say I didn’t want to talk and she might be like that with all her clients, most massages I’d had previously though were silent except for the odd question like about my preference of the pressure or being asked to turn over and the background music playing.
I found it distracting and I was focusing on the conversation instead of just enjoying it, I also started to feel like she was bored doing the treatment in silence which made me feel under more pressure to engage. I like a chat at the hairdresser or getting my nails done as it helps pass the time but during a massage I prefer if to be peaceful and quiet.

I also realised the treatment time seemed shorter as well, it was advertised as 50 minute treatment time but states when booking to get there 10 minutes earlier. I took from the wording that the massage should last the whole 50 minutes and that wasn’t the appointment time.

At my last visit to this therapist the massage was booked for 3pm but I got there at 2.45. I was taken into the treatment room straight away and as i undressed and took my watch off I noticed it was 2.51, I waited around 5 minutes for the therapist to come back into the room and when it was finished I looked at my watch again and it was 3.17 Thats a lot shorter then I paid for and previous appointments had felt a similar amount of time so I imagine they were also cut short.

I didn’t feel comfortable saying anything but I was a bit pissed off and felt more stressed then before I went in! I had arranged things round this appointment. Travelled there and back and paid for parking and it cost £60 which is a huge amount of money for me.
To start with I found it was worth it and I don’t spend a lot of money on myself really, after this I felt a bit short changed.

The actual massage was great except i asked for more time on my feet then anywhere else but they were only massaged briefly. I was asked which areas I wanted focused on so I didn’t just request a different service.
The therapist seemed like a lovely person. I liked her and I like to stay loyal to a business.
She always had someone waiting for her after I was finished so she is obviously fitting in as many clients as she can to make money, I don’t blame her at all but after I realised how short the treatment was I didn’t return.

I started to go somewhere else where so far I’ve had the full fifty minutes I paid for, there is minimal conversation and she focuses on the areas I ask for, I left a tip and good reviews every time.

The previous therapist has somehow found out I’ve gone somewhere else and has sent an email to me asking why and saying she thought I was a loyal client and wanted to know what she’d done wrong.

I felt so guilty reading it and she kind of accused me of not supporting her business and it looking bad to other clients that I’m going somewhere else.

I’m not sure if I should just leave it or reply and tell her straight. I live in a small town and I hate the idea of people gossiping over this, all I wanted was a way to de-stress I’m spending a lot of money on a luxury so it’s no good being more stressed out afterwards!

I know this isn’t an enormous issue and I’m probably overthinking it but that’s anxiety for you!
Would I be better just ignoring her email and hoping I don’t bump into her somewhere or replying and explaining my reasons?
I know it would have been far better to say something at the time but I didn’t have the confidence and didn’t know what to say without it sounding like I was timing her.

I’d appreciate an outside opinion and to know if I’m being ridiculous and completely overthinking this or if it would bother anyone else please?

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JC03745 · 13/08/2024 21:32

I would be seeing an osteopath instead of a masseuse! Yes, a masseuse massage can be relaxing- when not chatting non stop and taking the piss with time! I've always found an osteopath far more therapeutic and they have medical knowledge to actually target the cause of the tightness etc and help it improve. I've also had plantar and my osteo manipulating my foot was almost orgasmic 😆

Its absolutely none of the previous masseuses business you are going elsewhere and her email alone is rude!

IF you do reply to her and outline the issues, I'd keep it much more succinct and far briefer than your OP.

godmum56 · 13/08/2024 21:32

PonyPatter44 · 13/08/2024 20:13

Trust me, NOBODY is gossiping about you going to a different massage therapist. The only thing that they might be doing is envying you for having the cojones to go somewhere else!

She sounds like a cheeky wotsit. If you do reply to her, I would say what @PeriIsKickingMyButt said, which is the truth.

Edited to add - do the massages help with plantar fasciitis? I have it as well, if massage helps I will book myself in!

Edited

sorry for going off topic but I had plantar fasciitis for years. What fixed it permanently was wearing Crocs....the original fugly clog kind made from Croslite and get the literide kind if you can. I know some people would sooner have their feet cut off than wear them but it worked for me. To start with they were pretty much the only shoes i wore (they were allowed at work) but now I can wear what I like again. I should say i have never been able to wear heels not even in my teen years, OP I would tell the masseur....tactfully but tell her.

Funkyslippers · 13/08/2024 21:22

Similar happened me. I went to a new massage place, booked a 30 minute massage but got 20 mins. Didn't want to complain there & then so I put an honest review online. They responded by offering me a free 20 minute massage. I had to pluck up the courage to go back but I did as I knew I had nothing to be embarrassed about. You need to be honest with her

msbevvy · 13/08/2024 21:20

How annoying. I wouldn't find that at all relaxing.

I recently discovered dry water massage beds. It is a game changer. It still helps massively with my tense muscles and fibromyalgia but no need to take your clothes off and no need to talk to anyone during the experience. I fell asleep during the last 10 mins of today's session.

The place I go to isn't as fancy as this but it gives you some idea of what it involves.

https://www.lifehouse.co.uk/treatments/popular-treatments/dry-water-massage-bed

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https://www.lifehouse.co.uk/treatments/popular-treatments/dry-water-massage-bed

LouH5 · 13/08/2024 21:16

How did she even find out you’d been somewhere else? That is very cheeky of her!

Id keep your reply nice and simple and say you prefer a quieter massage without chat.

I know how annoying it is- I’ll never forget going for a massage on a spa day with a friend and tney put us both in the same room, like a couples massage. This was fine, but my masseuse was silent throughout and hers did not stop talking! My friend didn’t respond, just a few “hmm…yeah” here and there, but the woman was just going on about her garden, being allergic to cats, and her fave food. I kept huffing and at one point raised my head and glared over, but she didn’t get the hint. I wasn’t brave enough to say something in the moment, as didn’t want it to her awkward, but afterwards my friend and I complained to the receptionist and we got some money back.

5475878237NC · 13/08/2024 21:15

Thehop · 13/08/2024 20:31

"Hi, I think you're a brilliant masseuse. I found I was getting less and less from my treatments as time went on and treatment was cut shorter, and that we were mainly chatting. I seem to be able to relax betyer aomewhere quiet and with a full
hour. Like i said , you're a great masseur and it's not a personal choice....just a better fit for me here."

What a copout. It is personal. She's not brilliant because she short changed the client, didn't ask the client if she wanted chat or not, and ignored the client's request for areas of focus.

Skyrainlight · 13/08/2024 21:13

I would respond and just be completely honest.

SauviGone · 13/08/2024 21:11

I live in a small town and I hate the idea of people gossiping over this

Absolutely nobody in your town even knows or cares that you get a regular massage, or where you go for it. And nobody is gossiping about it, I assure you. 😂

I have my own service-based business and sending an email out to try and re-engage clients who haven't been for a while is common, however it's usually a generic email, and my booking system will filter to send the email only to clients who have e.g. not been back in the last 6 months.

Given how much you appear to have over-thought this whole thing, I'd be interested to see the exact wording of her email to see if she really has 'accused you' of not supporting her business and it looking bad to other clients that you've gone elsewhere, or whether you've read it with your overthinking anxious slant, and read something that really isn't there.

Anyway, I'd always want to receive honest feedback from my clients if I was asking for it.

So something like "Hi X, thank you for your email asking for my honest feedback. I prefer a silent massage, you have chatted throughout my recent treatments. In addition, the last few times I've visited you, I have only received a 30 minute treatment but have been charged for the full 50 minutes. I wish you all the best with your business for the future. Please remove me from your database and don't contact me again. Thanks"

countrysidelife2024 · 13/08/2024 21:09

i would say that you felt the bookings were getting shorter even though you were paying the same throughout and that the last time you went you timed it and you were out within 20 mintutes, thats less than half of your booking and just that you have gone elsewhere as they can accommodate a full booking

MiniCooperLover · 13/08/2024 21:09

Why didn't you say I'd prefer not to chat ir that's ok?

countrysidelife2024 · 13/08/2024 21:08

sorry but id be so angry if not only did i not get the time i paid for ( ive had that with cleaners) but that i was also talked at for the entire time, this isnt like thee hair dressers, this is supposed to be a zen relaxing experience.

waterrat · 13/08/2024 20:59

OP I've recently become quite determined to be honest in these situations - I've had to do it a few times recently (not quite the same but healthcare situations etc where usually I would jusst move on but thought no - it's not okay I'm going to complain but very politely and clearly

\This woman has asked you - so - give her feedback! She ripped you off!

I would say - if you want an honest answer - I was unhappy that the time was not what was advertised and agreed. I also prefer a massage in silence but found it awkward to say so.

I think it's terrible just the talking! that is your relax time it's not like a haircut - there is definitely no normally talking

and half an hour instead of 50 minutes? I mean that is really really bad

I suspect she knows she was in the wrong which is why she is checking in with you

TomatoSandwiches · 13/08/2024 20:56

After that message riddled with emotional blackmail I'd go see her face to face and tell her very clearly why I won't use her services anymore.

CF.

RockyRogue1001 · 13/08/2024 20:55

RunningThroughMyHead · 13/08/2024 20:29

"Hi, I meant to contact you but found it awkward. Your massages are excellent but I've found somewhere that offers the full 50min of massage for the same price. I also think I prefer a more anonymous massage where we don't chat and get to know each other, it's my quiet time. I know you'll understand"

Or just ignore. You don't owe her an explanation. She took the absolute piss with a 25 min massage for £60.

Lots of pps said good things, but I think this one nails it

BobbyBiscuits · 13/08/2024 20:55

This is very unprofessional of her.
You didn't tell her you were using another therapist, so it's none of her business. You could choose to get five massages a day from different people if you so desired!
The way she framed it as 'what did I do wrong?' sounds more like a jilted teenage lover than a business associate.
I'd not respond. I'd probably not use her again either. Hopefully she'll learn that approach doesn't help retain clients.

Marine30 · 13/08/2024 20:55

She’s wrong to message you in the way that she has. Try not to stress about this - you absolutely have the right to take your business wherever you want to.
You have no need to reply but if you do just keep it short and say you felt elsewhere was a better fit for your needs. Like you say, this should be a treat. She’s just being cheeky.

rileyy · 13/08/2024 20:51

As someone who also has anxiety, I would absolutely reply and tell her exactly why! That she is a great masseuse but you paid for 50 minutes which you didn’t get, and her chatting and asking questions was unprofessional and irritating, so you felt it best to seek a more appropriate massage therapist.
She’s directly (albeit inappropriately) requested your feedback so I’d give it to her straight up! What’s she going to do? She might message back, which you can just ignore. Otherwise you never have to see or speak to her again so honestly you may as well just say it!

TinyYellow · 13/08/2024 20:51

I like the idea of telling her you got a gift voucher for another place and realised you preferred having the full hour.

It’s worth telling her where she went wrong imo, but you can compliment her massage skills at the same time if you did think she was good.

MuchuseasaChocolateTeapot · 13/08/2024 20:50

Wear EarPods and just say you would rather listen to your own music, they’ll get the hint then!

Aria999 · 13/08/2024 20:49

You owe her nothing.

While I think it's fine for her to follow up professionally (just want to check everything was ok with the service) the way she has actually done it is inappropriate and emotional blackmailing.

I would tell her she didn't give you the full time and that you have discovered that you prefer not to be talked to, but be prepared for follow up trying to get you to come back (don't go).

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 13/08/2024 20:44

I've had to leave three masseuses in a row for the same reason. The first few sessions are great, then they start wanting to chat during the treatment.

Bluntly saying I didn't want to talk would have made me too uneasy to relax. So I gave all the signals that I didn't want to chat. Giving short answers, not asking questions in return, etc. They didn't take the hint.

I've given up now, even though massage really helps my chronic pain.

pimmpomm · 13/08/2024 20:42

I would ignore. It's none of her business why you've chosen to go to someone else for a treatment. It's really weird that she thinks it ok to message and question you about it. Very unprofessional.

fredder · 13/08/2024 20:39

I would give her feedback so she knows why you went elsewhere. I would mention everything you said here, duration, chatting and that despite asking you wanted more work on your feet which you didn't feel you were getting. It is over a message so not face to face. It may help her in the future with other clients. You can be polite about it as others have shown with their own messages.

MissingMoominMamma · 13/08/2024 20:38

I can’t believe she messaged you!!

Starlingexpress · 13/08/2024 20:38

Unbelievable.

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