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To have just wanted a relaxing massage?

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Salumthecat · 13/08/2024 20:06

I suffer from severe anxiety and have a lot of tension in my back, shoulders and legs, I also have plantar fasciitis which can be excruciatingly painful.

I started booking regular massages with a woman who runs her own business. To start with I found it a really relaxing experience and it relieved pain and left me feeling less stressed but after the first few massages things changed.

During a massage I want to clear my mind and relax and enjoy the experience but the therapist started becoming really chatty. She was asking lots of questions about if I had any holidays planned, do I have any children, talking out her own life and family, stuff she’s watched on tv etc…
i felt it’d be rude to say I didn’t want to talk and she might be like that with all her clients, most massages I’d had previously though were silent except for the odd question like about my preference of the pressure or being asked to turn over and the background music playing.
I found it distracting and I was focusing on the conversation instead of just enjoying it, I also started to feel like she was bored doing the treatment in silence which made me feel under more pressure to engage. I like a chat at the hairdresser or getting my nails done as it helps pass the time but during a massage I prefer if to be peaceful and quiet.

I also realised the treatment time seemed shorter as well, it was advertised as 50 minute treatment time but states when booking to get there 10 minutes earlier. I took from the wording that the massage should last the whole 50 minutes and that wasn’t the appointment time.

At my last visit to this therapist the massage was booked for 3pm but I got there at 2.45. I was taken into the treatment room straight away and as i undressed and took my watch off I noticed it was 2.51, I waited around 5 minutes for the therapist to come back into the room and when it was finished I looked at my watch again and it was 3.17 Thats a lot shorter then I paid for and previous appointments had felt a similar amount of time so I imagine they were also cut short.

I didn’t feel comfortable saying anything but I was a bit pissed off and felt more stressed then before I went in! I had arranged things round this appointment. Travelled there and back and paid for parking and it cost £60 which is a huge amount of money for me.
To start with I found it was worth it and I don’t spend a lot of money on myself really, after this I felt a bit short changed.

The actual massage was great except i asked for more time on my feet then anywhere else but they were only massaged briefly. I was asked which areas I wanted focused on so I didn’t just request a different service.
The therapist seemed like a lovely person. I liked her and I like to stay loyal to a business.
She always had someone waiting for her after I was finished so she is obviously fitting in as many clients as she can to make money, I don’t blame her at all but after I realised how short the treatment was I didn’t return.

I started to go somewhere else where so far I’ve had the full fifty minutes I paid for, there is minimal conversation and she focuses on the areas I ask for, I left a tip and good reviews every time.

The previous therapist has somehow found out I’ve gone somewhere else and has sent an email to me asking why and saying she thought I was a loyal client and wanted to know what she’d done wrong.

I felt so guilty reading it and she kind of accused me of not supporting her business and it looking bad to other clients that I’m going somewhere else.

I’m not sure if I should just leave it or reply and tell her straight. I live in a small town and I hate the idea of people gossiping over this, all I wanted was a way to de-stress I’m spending a lot of money on a luxury so it’s no good being more stressed out afterwards!

I know this isn’t an enormous issue and I’m probably overthinking it but that’s anxiety for you!
Would I be better just ignoring her email and hoping I don’t bump into her somewhere or replying and explaining my reasons?
I know it would have been far better to say something at the time but I didn’t have the confidence and didn’t know what to say without it sounding like I was timing her.

I’d appreciate an outside opinion and to know if I’m being ridiculous and completely overthinking this or if it would bother anyone else please?

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Caroparo52 · 15/08/2024 13:33

Just stay with new place. Better value for money. No unwanted chatting. The first therapist has a lot to learn or she will continue to loose her customers. You don't have to reply. Stop feeling guilty.

Scaredycat259 · 15/08/2024 12:29

There's a boot contraption that you can buy on Amazon to wear overnight for Plantar Fasciitis, I used it and it helped massively in the mornings

dizzyupthegirl86 · 15/08/2024 12:12

@WigglyVonWaggly i think this is the best one so far. Upfront, to the point, non apologetic.

WigglyVonWaggly · 14/08/2024 20:44

This would be my reply:
‘Hi Massager,
I’d be happy to give you the feedback you have asked for if it will be helpful for you and your business. There were two main reasons why I decided to try another masseuse. The first is that I enjoy a relaxing massage where I can truly unwind, enjoy quiet and not think about making conversation, for example about work or what’s keeping me busy. The second is that I noticed that I wasn’t receiving the full time I was paying for, meaning the treatment was less thorough and not as cost effective as I would like. I hope this honest feedback helps. Best wishes,
Salumthecat

anon4net · 14/08/2024 19:49

She shouldn't have messaged you that way. She could say she's always looking to learn and would welcome your feedback.

I'd probably be inclined to tell her she is a great masseuse but you need two things from treatment, firstly quiet and not chatting and secondly the full session. You could say as time went on you weren't able to get that with her and therefore you went elsewhere.

bryceQ · 14/08/2024 19:44

@OMGsamesame

I wouldn't expect M&S to message me and say we saw you left a review on John Lewis, have we done something to annoy you. I think that would be really weird.

Emailing a customer after a treatment and asking for feedback and if they enjoyed their experience is fine. But not triggered by seeing a review of a competitor. That's very odd.

MintyNew · 14/08/2024 19:42

She sounds extremely unprofessional and not a great therapist. I would be very honest with her and give her the negative feedback because she really behaved unprofessionally. And then block her

TomatoSandwiches · 14/08/2024 19:41

What would help to avoid these situations is if upon consulting a potential customer before a massage is to just ask if they want a silent treatment with light music or otherwise.

You could even put it in a consultation form the customer fills out or include online so no one feels awkward about it.

Would save so much trouble.

OMGsamesame · 14/08/2024 19:38

bryceQ · 14/08/2024 19:29

I didn't read her email as passive aggressive I read it as desperate. She is a small business and even though she didn't show it through her actions per se I imagine you are a valued customer to her. But your reasons for not going anymore are absolutely valid. I would reply and be honest. But you're also entitled to not reply. It is very unprofessional of her to do this. I run a small service business and we have customers who go to competitors and come back etc, would never dream of emailing them, we just say oh okay, enjoy your sessions. You have to be dignified people are allowed to choose their provider!

Any large corporate contacts its customers and former customers to solicit feedback. It's not inappropriate for a small business to do this.

bryceQ · 14/08/2024 19:29

I didn't read her email as passive aggressive I read it as desperate. She is a small business and even though she didn't show it through her actions per se I imagine you are a valued customer to her. But your reasons for not going anymore are absolutely valid. I would reply and be honest. But you're also entitled to not reply. It is very unprofessional of her to do this. I run a small service business and we have customers who go to competitors and come back etc, would never dream of emailing them, we just say oh okay, enjoy your sessions. You have to be dignified people are allowed to choose their provider!

5475878237NC · 14/08/2024 19:29

Catlord · 14/08/2024 19:24

I disagree. So many people pleasing statements for what? 'i appreciated you contacting me' no, it caused anxiety. 'it was probably my fault...' it wasn't , 'i did enjoy my time with you' not the part where she didn't shut up for half an hour.

I don't mean to be rude to PP who took the time to compose this but why so much soft soap when the masseuse behaved downright creepily?

We've just been conditioned to soft serve everything. There are ways to be polite and direct, with no BS.

Catlord · 14/08/2024 19:24

LightDrizzle · 14/08/2024 13:00

I think this is perfect!

I disagree. So many people pleasing statements for what? 'i appreciated you contacting me' no, it caused anxiety. 'it was probably my fault...' it wasn't , 'i did enjoy my time with you' not the part where she didn't shut up for half an hour.

I don't mean to be rude to PP who took the time to compose this but why so much soft soap when the masseuse behaved downright creepily?

FinallyHere · 14/08/2024 17:48

LaurieFairyCake · 13/08/2024 20:09

Don't respond, you're allowed to go elsewhere Flowers

This

Appalling customer service to chase you like that.

Jellyandicecreamandcustard · 14/08/2024 13:07

The fact she read the positive review you posted elsewhere and still doesn't get where she went wrong probably means she does not want to know, and has an ulterior motive for emailing you I.e. trying to get you to come back. Because of that, I would not engage. She is being unprofessional in so many ways.
Ps I hate it when they talk during a massage. So unrelaxing.

LightDrizzle · 14/08/2024 13:00

Lovethat · 14/08/2024 11:14

No one is gossiping about you, you can change places as many as you want. You could take it that she's genuinely interested to know why you've not returned.

You could send an email back explaining your reasons, they are valid and will help her going forward, but also have a response as to why you won't go back in your pocket for when she asks. How about :

Hi x, thanks for the email, I appreciate you contacting me. Yes I have started using x as it suits my needs better. As you've taken the time to find out what there were a few reasons for my moved, which I've put below, this isn't personal and I did enjoy my time with you.

I paid for a 50 minute treatment but they've been getting shorter, with my last visit being no longer than 20 minutes.

I expressed areas I'd like covered by the session, these are problematic areas for me and you didn't spend any more time than normal

Must admit I do prefer no chat, I love to switch off and just enjoy the moment, probably my fault for not telling you this 😊

Anyway I hope this helps your business and all the best

X

I think this is perfect!

JC03745 · 14/08/2024 12:46

Her asking friends on the street about why you stopped going is completely against GDPR guidance and patient confidentiality! I don't know if there is a masseuse registration/association, but in some professions, they could be struck off for breaching confidentiality!

BobbyBiscuits · 14/08/2024 12:11

I'm just thinking, if she wants honest feedback about her service she's needs to set up a short customer satisfaction survey they clients are asked to complete anonymously. Depending on how many clients she has she may guess who said what. But then she needs to improve her service and act on the feedback in good faith. Without confronting people. Not harass people who choose to go elsewhere!

godmum56 · 14/08/2024 12:05

197836543q · 13/08/2024 23:09

Sometimes i like to chat during my massage. Other times, as I lie down, i tell her I'm knackered and will probably fall asleep during it as so tired and looking forward to shutting my brain off for an hour! It works for me anyway 🙃

I have said similar at the hairdressers and its worked for me.

KreedKafer · 14/08/2024 11:50

Nobody’s going to gossip about where you do or don’t go to get a massage.

You are completely entitled to go wherever you want and you don’t owe this masseuse an explanation. I’d just ignore the email, personally.

If you stopped shopping in Asda because you preferred Tesco, you wouldn’t be obliged to explain yourself. This is no different.

wizzywig · 14/08/2024 11:39

She's forgotten she is supposed to be professional. I'd be fuming if I knew a beautician was talking about me to others

Catlord · 14/08/2024 11:28

@Onehotday has a perfect response.

I'd say reply or don't but don'tnfeel you must give a fuzzy, placatory message.

She was wildly unprofessional. Certainly don't suggest it was your fault for not clarifying you didn't want to chat. It isn't standard practice to talk rubbish at a client throughout a massage.

sueelleker · 14/08/2024 11:26

StormingNorman · 13/08/2024 20:21

I would want a refund or just call it quits halfway through if the masseur wouldn’t shut up. Who wants to chat while getting a massage?

I do actually-my masseuse and I both love cooking, and spend a lot of time chatting about recipes. But i's down to personal preference (and she does a very good job too)

TossieFleacake · 14/08/2024 11:19

I would reply and highlight the following points:
• that I find it highly unprofessional to have my personal business discussed with my friends
• that I find it strange and uncomfortable to receive this kind of email asking why I have gone elsewhere
• that £60 is far too much money to spend on a massage that barely lasts 20 minutes
• that perhaps the massage therapist should ask her clients if they want a quiet peaceful massage or would prefer to chat ... easy to do at the beginning of a session and clears up any misunderstanding

Extremely cheeky to send that kind of emotional blackmail kind of email, she deserves to hear the feedback even though she probably won't like it.
Ask her if she would like you to leave a review for her outlining why you haven't gone back.

Lovethat · 14/08/2024 11:14

No one is gossiping about you, you can change places as many as you want. You could take it that she's genuinely interested to know why you've not returned.

You could send an email back explaining your reasons, they are valid and will help her going forward, but also have a response as to why you won't go back in your pocket for when she asks. How about :

Hi x, thanks for the email, I appreciate you contacting me. Yes I have started using x as it suits my needs better. As you've taken the time to find out what there were a few reasons for my moved, which I've put below, this isn't personal and I did enjoy my time with you.

I paid for a 50 minute treatment but they've been getting shorter, with my last visit being no longer than 20 minutes.

I expressed areas I'd like covered by the session, these are problematic areas for me and you didn't spend any more time than normal

Must admit I do prefer no chat, I love to switch off and just enjoy the moment, probably my fault for not telling you this 😊

Anyway I hope this helps your business and all the best

X

EBearhug · 14/08/2024 11:06

I don't want more chat in a massage beyond things like, "have you any problem areas this week?" and "how do you find this pressure? I can go harder or lighter if you need."

I would be tempted to respond that her asking about you in the street is one of the reasons why you don't go to her any more, but it's probably better just to leave it. You could give her constructive feedback on appointment length and chat, but only if you want to, and be clear you're not planning to go back. If it were me, I'd probably think about giving feedback, but not prioritise it, and then find 6 weeks have gone by...