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Taking kids out of school for a term

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Whenthechipshitthefan · 13/08/2024 16:37

Possibly the wrong place to post- if so sorry!
Has anyone had any success in taking their kids (legally!) out of school for a term or even a half term. I want to take 2 x DDs (Yr 4, Reception) to my mums country for a long stay. They don't know the culture and I'm aware that we are all losing that connection. The flights are expensive, and it takes at least 24hrs to get there. Its a big country so that if we go over I want them to see a lot, experience a lot and see everyone.

Has anyone applied and been successful? Is it just headteacher opinion that matters? What can I promise to keep their place and not get taken to court. Happy to pay a fine!

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Summerishere123 · 13/08/2024 17:48

How about going for 4 weeks, and going around easter so they miss less? So maybe the week before until the week after? You will get a fine but not much else.

Tescovalu · 13/08/2024 17:46

Teacher. Yes - it does happen. We had a kid who went home to Hong Kong for a bit. 🤏

Isometimeswonder · 13/08/2024 17:46

This will be so disruptive to their learning. And so unfair on the teachers who will be expected to just pick up where they left off.

VenusClapTrap · 13/08/2024 17:45

People did this when my dc were at primary school. One lot did it to visit family in New Zealand for four weeks over Christmas. Another went back to Brazil for a term before reappearing. The third family went off on a world trip that was supposed to be six months duration, but they came back half way through because the parents split up.

I’ve no idea of the admin/mechanics of their school places. I do know that in all cases, they were honest and open with the Head from the start. It’s a sought after school, but a small village one that tends not to have long waiting lists.

Hakunatomato · 13/08/2024 17:44

Bushmillsbabe · 13/08/2024 16:40

Half a term is 6 weeks, could you take them during the long summer holidays?

I think that's a lot of school to miss, and the head would be within their rights to take them off roll. Whether they actually will depends on how your headteacher is and your relationship with them.

I'm guessing it's Australia or similar if 24 hours away. Do your children have citizenship in that country and could they attend school while there?

Edited

If you go to Aus and haven’t paid taxes, by working for a certain length of time, you will need to pay for the children to attend school.

HideTheCroissants · 13/08/2024 17:44

The school has no option about giving permission for this. We are simply not allowed to authorise absence that doesn’t fit the rules. Once your child has been absent for 20 school days they have to be removed from roll. If you are lucky their place may still be available on your return but the school cannot guarantee this.
Added to this, if you don’t tell the school where you are going and/or where they are receiving education then they have to report to the local authority that there is a CME (Child Missing Education) which means investigations into the child’s whereabouts so it’s important that you are honest with the school.

Xtraincome · 13/08/2024 17:42

How about a month in total? Leave day before Easter break, then back 2 weeks after? Only 2 weeks of school is missed that way.

FluffytheGoldfish · 13/08/2024 17:40

I teach in Scotland and this kind of trip is not uncommon. There is a registration code which lets us know if it is with consent or not.
Would not expect anyone to be off rolled for this. In fact, if I remember correctly, we can’t off role a pupil unless they are actually registered with another school.

MonaChopsis · 13/08/2024 17:39

OP I did this with my daughter, and chatted to the local school about the best way forward for them to accommodate this. DD went to school for a month in my home country (at her request!) in order to meet local kids and integrate into local culture, we then stayed for three more weeks of their school holidays. The local school listed her as being 'educated elsewhere' for the duration so then it didn't affect their absence stats. They didn't ask for any proof of said schooling, though DD ended up giving a presentation to the class about her exchange school on our return. She returned to her school/class with no issues, although the local school is definitely not oversubscribed so that may have made a difference!

RoseUnder · 13/08/2024 17:39

Go for it. I’m guessing somewhere in South East Asia, maybe with monsoon or other extreme weather during our summer - but what an amazing and formative experience. I’m sure it’ll work out. I highly doubt you’ll regret it five years from now, people rarely do. Make the jump. Lucky kids!!

User364837 · 13/08/2024 17:36

madnessitellyou · 13/08/2024 17:16

Can’t you go one week before Easter, say, and one week after to give 4 weeks in total? Still a long visit.

I think going in the six week holiday is better though.

Edited

I think this too

4 weeks - a week either side of the Easter holidays could be a good compromise

Sprogonthetyne · 13/08/2024 17:36

You could deregister and home educate for the time they're away. You can then re-appky for school place's once you get back. If they're at an over subscribed school, they might not get back in the same school, but the council would need to find you a place somewhere, same as if you had moved house.

Thiswayforward · 13/08/2024 17:35

Tag it onto a longer school holiday and pick a shorter half term? If you are in a rural area you may be fine. But an oversubscribed school would struggle with it I think.

Hayliebells · 13/08/2024 17:35

I'd just go, as you say, it's now or never. If people regularly join or leave your school mid year, I'd say it's likely you'd get a place at your school when you return. I know at my children's school that people got places after reception relatively regularly, and that as long as children lived reasonably close, it's likely you'd be OK after a short wait. Presumably you don't need to worry about work yourself? If that's the case, I'd just homeschool on return until places at their school come up. 4 is so young, it won't hurt them.

ZiriForGood · 13/08/2024 17:34

Fingers crossed you will find a way.
It will be different type of learning, but they will learn so much about the world.

LIZS · 13/08/2024 17:34

No they don't have to hold a place and nothing op can say will "persuade" the head or LA to do so. If you do this you might be lucky and the vacancy still be there but popular schools will have waiting lists and may fill the spaces.

Marseillaise · 13/08/2024 17:29

FawnFrenchieMum · 13/08/2024 17:22

Nothing, they are not allowed to do it.

You can do it but they can’t hold the place.

They have to hold the place if they know where the child is and that the parents are planning to return them to the school.

Summertimer · 13/08/2024 17:28

Some academics at our uni take their kids with them on sabbatical terms or years. As others have said, no guarantee of a school place where you were before on return. I don’t know if there are any legal responsibilities to show proof they are at school at those ages. I also don’t know anyone directly who hadn’t got a school place for their child wherever they were going for sabbatical.

DezTheMoaner · 13/08/2024 17:26

Whenthechipshitthefan · 13/08/2024 16:56

Sadly because I was refused permission to take them to a religious celebration for half a day in the last week of term. They watched a DVD instead.

I've said we can't go in summer though I appreciate not everyone reads all posts. We could go but half of the places we would want to visit would be inaccessible potentially

I would advise leaving at the beginning of April (Easter is a moveable feast and it's very "late" next year) and returning for the start of the new school year.
It's no fun for kids trying to join a class halfway through the school year, either from a curriculum point of view or a social one.
But find out what you will need to do to ensure that they have places for the start of the new school year before you leave.

dbeuowlxb173939 · 13/08/2024 17:26

It depends on the school, you will have to talk to the headteacher.
My friend took her DD to NZ to stay with family for 6 weeks in January and the school de-registered her so it wouldn't affect their absence stats but they weren't over subscribed so knew they would be able to take her back after half term hols. Small village school so never oversubscribed

ALunchbox · 13/08/2024 17:25

Seems to depend on schools (and/or counties?). Someone at my school took both kids out for a term and was guaranteed their places will be kept. The family had to move for work basically. I don't know if that is why it got approved. That doesn't mean your reason is less valid in my eyes. I'm just wondering what schools might think.

HolibobsMum · 13/08/2024 17:25

Is there a waiting list for your children's classes?

If not just deregister them and then reapply when you want to return.

FawnFrenchieMum · 13/08/2024 17:22

Whenthechipshitthefan · 13/08/2024 17:00

I am grateful for all the inputs.

I think I was asking what would help me support my case/ my application to the Head?

Nothing, they are not allowed to do it.

You can do it but they can’t hold the place.

MrsSunshine2b · 13/08/2024 17:22

As far as I'm aware this would be classed as an unauthorised absence of 6 weeks and you'd be facing prosecution on your return.

Your best bet is to deregister them and then reregister them when you get back. If the school is oversubscribed, that could be tricky.