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Sister Regifting

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Dobbysocks · 13/08/2024 09:36

My sister and I used to be very close but owing to some challenges our relationship isn’t what it once was. I have two boys, one four and one newborn and she has a seven year old girl. Generally, gifts on special occasions for the kids are thoughtful and useful.

My sister left some presents at my parents for me and my mum passed these on. She had regifted the following;

  • A stained three piece baby set with an item missing, so a two piece in reality.
  • A baby bouquet where the ‘flowers’ are rolled up socks etc. All bar a few items which were once white had yellowed as it’s obviously been stored since she had her daughter. In fact, I remember her specifically saying how much she hated it when she was given it.
  • A photo frame given to her by our cousin when her daughter was born. This was in perfect condition unlike the above.

All the gifts were thrown in a supermarket bag and smelt musty, as if they’d just been cleared out of the loft or storage and passed on to me instead of being properly sorted.

AIBU to be upset by being given this from my sister? Particularly the stained, missing and yellowed items?

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Nanny0gg · 13/08/2024 12:33

Dobbysocks · 13/08/2024 10:39

She’s often unkind and mean unfortunately, even to my parents. Usually not with things to do with my son but it appears that children are now no longer exempt from the meanness either.

Stay away

No communication

She's made her choice

Nanny0gg · 13/08/2024 12:30

user1492757084 · 13/08/2024 10:01

Wash and use what you can. Otherwise wash and give to charity.
You can refrain from taking exception.
You can just say thanks and leave any mean spiritedness to your sister (who might have just had a rough week)

Why excuses for really mean behaviour?

Can't even call it thoughtless because I bet it wasn't

whereisthelifethatirecognize · 13/08/2024 12:29

Dobbysocks · 13/08/2024 10:37

No she hasn’t yet met the new baby. She hasn’t been over to my house since January due to some wildly inappropriate comments made by her child that I did not want my son exposed to or repeating. (Mentioning killing, suicide and hatred towards a religious group. She’s 7.)

Prior to this, I have been a victim of sexual abuse in the form of voyeurism, at the hands of her husband without my knowledge or consent. I was secretly filmed in the shower when I stayed at her home once which means I do not go to her home anymore or talk to her husband. Since this, our relationship has become very different.

I agree she is probably showing her emotions by doing this. I just think it’s unwarranted and a bit horrible for a newborn baby to be the subject of nastiness dressed up as something nice. She also made some disparaging comments about newborn DS’s name.

That's one helluva drip feed!

You have bigger issues with her and her husband than the bag of crap.

Is she safe with him?

lovemycbf · 13/08/2024 12:23

You don't have a relationship with your sister,her actions have surely shown you just how little she thinks of you.
I wouldn't bother with her anymore which I understand makes you sad but please don't put up with being a second class person to her you deserve much more.

PixieLaLar · 13/08/2024 12:10

Sounds like she was offloading some old tat but I agree it doesn’t really seem that important given the update.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 13/08/2024 12:07

As I said, you can still report it. There’s no time limit on any offences that can be tried in the Crown Court.

The police and CPS might not take it forward if they don’t think there’s enough evidence or that it’s not in the public interest, but at least you’ll have done your bit.

Id be concerned for the 7 yo

Dobbysocks · 13/08/2024 12:04

lawyer12 · 13/08/2024 11:53

@Dobbysocks as someone with a sister, I'd not know if I could forgive her for forgiving him, but I would try to understand...

I think it's probably something as simple as her not having time (and being thoughtless/selfish) to get you something OR her husband saying not to spend money on you OR that she's resentful over the daughter thing - or a combination!

We don't speak to my fiancés brother in law (he viciously attacked (broken nose, blood all over the house) my fiancé out the blue and unprovoked at their parents house) and his parents only still tolerate him for the children so while it's not the same, I do get that elephant in the room situation when you can't stand and feel scared of someone you're related to by marriage.... my sister in law likes to try to leave me out (I did nothing!) as "her husband is left out" and I get token gifts for birthdays that I'm sure her parents buy and no acknowledgement of my contributions to her gifts or gifts for her kids, which we spend a lot on for the kids. (Entire premier league football kit for their 5 year old, he loves it so it's fine!) I can really relate, but can't imagine if my own sister were doing it to me. Hopefully time will heal ♥️

Thank you for this reply. The elephant in the room is exactly how it feels. It’s not an easy situation at all.

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IntrepidCat · 13/08/2024 11:56

Dobbysocks · 13/08/2024 10:12

Yes, she specifically messaged me saying she’s left a gift for the baby with my parents.

Edited

Just reply and say that you have left them with your parents as they aren’t suitable for your baby. Then get your parents to return them to her.

lawyer12 · 13/08/2024 11:53

@Dobbysocks as someone with a sister, I'd not know if I could forgive her for forgiving him, but I would try to understand...

I think it's probably something as simple as her not having time (and being thoughtless/selfish) to get you something OR her husband saying not to spend money on you OR that she's resentful over the daughter thing - or a combination!

We don't speak to my fiancés brother in law (he viciously attacked (broken nose, blood all over the house) my fiancé out the blue and unprovoked at their parents house) and his parents only still tolerate him for the children so while it's not the same, I do get that elephant in the room situation when you can't stand and feel scared of someone you're related to by marriage.... my sister in law likes to try to leave me out (I did nothing!) as "her husband is left out" and I get token gifts for birthdays that I'm sure her parents buy and no acknowledgement of my contributions to her gifts or gifts for her kids, which we spend a lot on for the kids. (Entire premier league football kit for their 5 year old, he loves it so it's fine!) I can really relate, but can't imagine if my own sister were doing it to me. Hopefully time will heal ♥️

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 13/08/2024 11:47

BlueMum16 · 13/08/2024 09:42

I'd have left them with mum to return to sister and say thanks but no thanks.

This.

KreedKafer · 13/08/2024 11:43

Dobbysocks · 13/08/2024 10:37

No she hasn’t yet met the new baby. She hasn’t been over to my house since January due to some wildly inappropriate comments made by her child that I did not want my son exposed to or repeating. (Mentioning killing, suicide and hatred towards a religious group. She’s 7.)

Prior to this, I have been a victim of sexual abuse in the form of voyeurism, at the hands of her husband without my knowledge or consent. I was secretly filmed in the shower when I stayed at her home once which means I do not go to her home anymore or talk to her husband. Since this, our relationship has become very different.

I agree she is probably showing her emotions by doing this. I just think it’s unwarranted and a bit horrible for a newborn baby to be the subject of nastiness dressed up as something nice. She also made some disparaging comments about newborn DS’s name.

Yeah, I think maybe the second-hand baby gift here is very much the least of your problems.

I'd be phoning the police about the voyeurism incident. You know that's illegal, right?! It's literally a sex crime and this is a man who lives in a house with children. If your sister is still with this man, I would probably never be speaking to her again to be honest.

Dobbysocks · 13/08/2024 11:42

lawyer12 · 13/08/2024 11:21

I would be put off and upset too, but here are my guesses on the inner workings behind her behaviour.

Either

  1. She has taken personal offence and/or blamed you for (1) being offended at her daughter's views/language - how sensitive of you and (2) her husband filming you (gross) she's either said that he didn't and you're lying, or you caused it to happen, or she acknowledges and forgives him. (curious of her response to his behaviour!) It's far easier to blame you than blame her own family members she lives with. She's therefore being petty and retaliating - if she's that bothered why continue talking?

  2. Alternatively, if you (quite rightly!) ignore her husband and have taken offence at things her young daughter has said, she may be TOLD by him that she's not to spend money on gifts for your kids. Not that you or your children deserve it, but there is a chance that "well she doesn't like us so why should we spend our money on her". This is really likely to be the case if he denies ever filming you and he's playing the "she just doesn't like any of us and makes things up about me and our racist child"....

Everything still seems pretty fresh and I'd guess one of the above is why. I'd accept this is who she is and siblings aren't there for gifts, reciprocate accordingly in future (always "do you" if you'd still get her daughter nice presents) and move on. Congrats on baby boy 2!

He admitted it. He was very unemotional when she confronted him, said well you’ve obviously seen it so no point in denying it. They separated briefly but he then returned to the house and weasled his way back in. I chose to maintain a relationship with my sister but made it clear I felt she was making a huge mistake and it basically gives him a green light to have done what he did. She forgave him.

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 13/08/2024 11:33

You could still report her husband now btw

DaniMontyRae · 13/08/2024 11:30

@Muthaofcats no, the OP is not part of the problem. The victim of a sex crime is never part of the problem. The problem is the perpetrator and those who support him. Stop victim blaming.

CocoapuffPuff · 13/08/2024 11:29

Gift it all back to her when it's her kid's next birthday. Same bag, same everything.

Let her explain it to her daughter.

bakebeans · 13/08/2024 11:27

Regifting is good when the items are in decent condition. A bit cheeky to give stuff for for the tip!

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 13/08/2024 11:24

Oh just seen there’s a massive drip feed update!

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 13/08/2024 11:23

Shinyandnew1 · 13/08/2024 10:32

I’d send her a message saying, ‘Thanks, mum has just passed the carrier bag of old stuff from you on. I remember you being given that baby bouquet of socks for x years ago 😂’

Then you’ve said thanks and also told her you know it’s a bag of her old presents.

I’d add - “I don’t have any use for these things so have asked her to pass them back to you. Hope you can find a home for them”

Ellie1015 · 13/08/2024 11:23

Sounds like sister has a nightmare husband and a child who is in need of help given the language she used. Maybe she is juat stressed and didn't have time to sort a gift. It is thoughtless but i would give benefit of the doubt for my own peace as much as anything else.

lawyer12 · 13/08/2024 11:21

I would be put off and upset too, but here are my guesses on the inner workings behind her behaviour.

Either

  1. She has taken personal offence and/or blamed you for (1) being offended at her daughter's views/language - how sensitive of you and (2) her husband filming you (gross) she's either said that he didn't and you're lying, or you caused it to happen, or she acknowledges and forgives him. (curious of her response to his behaviour!) It's far easier to blame you than blame her own family members she lives with. She's therefore being petty and retaliating - if she's that bothered why continue talking?

  2. Alternatively, if you (quite rightly!) ignore her husband and have taken offence at things her young daughter has said, she may be TOLD by him that she's not to spend money on gifts for your kids. Not that you or your children deserve it, but there is a chance that "well she doesn't like us so why should we spend our money on her". This is really likely to be the case if he denies ever filming you and he's playing the "she just doesn't like any of us and makes things up about me and our racist child"....

Everything still seems pretty fresh and I'd guess one of the above is why. I'd accept this is who she is and siblings aren't there for gifts, reciprocate accordingly in future (always "do you" if you'd still get her daughter nice presents) and move on. Congrats on baby boy 2!

Dobbysocks · 13/08/2024 11:21

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I am not part of the problem. Though I wasn’t physically touched would you say to someone scared of reporting a physical abuse they’re part of a the problem? Probably not. Trauma from sexual abuse, physical or otherwise, is not as straightforward as that.

i also did not shame my niece. I asked my sister to point her in the right direction behaviour wise and gently but firmly told her we don’t speak like that. Had she have made the comments she did at school, her teachers would have had a duty to report it under prevent.

I agree there are much bigger issues at play but please don’t chastise me as being culpable for abuse I have suffered and overreacting to my niece’s comments.

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Greenhedge1 · 13/08/2024 11:19

OP, you were young and overwhelmed, very understandable.

You can still report him to the police if you wish for intelligence purposes.

Scum like him rarely do this only once.

He is a sex offender.

When you inform the police they keep information like that on file.

Well done for staying away from their home.

Unfortunately your sister has chosen to stay with a sex offender.

Best for you to step away.

Don't rush into anything but know that you can still report him.

Muthaofcats · 13/08/2024 11:11

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EatCrow · 13/08/2024 11:11

TemuSpecialBuy · 13/08/2024 10:43

Jesus that is some backstory…!!!

no one wants to be the villain in own their own story….she must be dealing with an unreal amount of cognitive dissonance at her behaviour and her families.

she has an child with What sounds like significant behavioural issues and a filthy pervert of a husband she’s standing by…

you are an inconvenient reminder of both.
her behaviour is 💯 about her not you…

I’d give the “gifts” back to your mother with a thanks but no thanks and recommend a couple of charities who are taking donations

what does your DM have to say about her Sexpervert SonIL and denier/enabler DD???

Edited

I agree, I can’t imagine why you would expect anything good from this relationship OP. You’re doing yourself a disservice having contact with her at all.

Dobbysocks · 13/08/2024 11:07

Greenhedge1 · 13/08/2024 10:54

What a pity you didn't report her husband.
Keep them all away from your family, they sound toxic.

Forget about the rubbish gifts, they are the least of your problems with your sister and her family.

Yes I really regret not doing so at the time. I was a lot younger and was worried about not being believed and having to have a video (which my sister found on a hard drive along with the camera which was masquerading as a tiny button but I have never seen) played in a court. In hindsight, I should’ve reported and had it dealt with but easier said than done with the emotional trauma of it all.

Unfortunately, when she chose to go back to him it sent a clear signal to me and our relationship hasn’t been the same since. I’m a lot less willing to just do what she wants now and that’s met with disdain constantly.

I still have her in my life as I didn’t want to lose my sister but the relationship seems to be getting more strained as time goes on.

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