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MIL likes to be almost part of our relationship or in the family

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MumDaisy1980 · 13/08/2024 09:10

Although I am a new mum for a 4 month old, it's still hard for me to understand the happiness of MIL about our baby's arrival.

We visited MIL & family last weekend and as expected she has this tremendous happiness shown in her face. I learnt to let go a little bit more, to be chilled and let DH and MIL & many in laws to play with the baby. I told myself it's the opportunity for the baby to know his wider family. But something I don't understand is MIL almost like to be in my position erm... or when DH talking to me say after he fed the baby I could hold the baby so DH can resume his lunch, but MIL was not really looking but in the same space quickly say sure one minute let me finish my bite. And I was like sure MIL feel free to give baby a cuddle. But I feel a bit erm....speechless would be my word.

Then also it's my DH bday soon, MIL then said oh last week I went shopping and saw a beautiful card for Dad from Son, she almost want to get it. I found it odd too.

On the other hand, she also has a tendency pouring the nightmares of raising a child , for example when I was pregnant after the congratulations , time to time she would say - I look so much forward for the new grandchild, I don't have to do all the hard work and can have the enjoyment . At that time and still I don't understand why she has to make the statement.

Or after checking how the baby is doing weight, sleep pattern etc, the baby so far so good, no major issue. then she would throw something like wait till the baby is teething and the crying cycle will start all over again.

Or last time DH was changing nappy - which is quite an achievement for new parent, then MIL kept distracting the baby and again said sth to DH said wait till baby grown older and move around - not easy to change nappy anymore.

Though they might be true, but I don't understand what's the point on saying them. and if any other MIL can share the thoughts would be great.

Besides, our baby is the 10th grandchild in the fam - I somehow found our baby got especially too much attention and I don't understand why. Perhaps because we are the only couple not living 5 mins down the road, so see each other less often.

I would like to add that overall I have good relationship with MIL, I can tell all her intention meant good. it's only when I am a bit moody then these small matters bug me a lot.

I wonder if anyone share similar experience? how you calm yourself!?

OP posts:
steadywinner · 17/08/2024 07:40

She's an excited grandmother and she's chatting to you about the baby's development and what to expect - perfectly normal and she's just trying to bond with you over shared experiences. Cut her some slack.

Eviebeans · 17/08/2024 01:24

saraclara · 16/08/2024 23:44

Is it really fair to add "don't look too happy when your grandchild is born" to the list of things MILs are expected to do?

The baby's mum can look adoringly at the baby. Her mum can gaze lovingly at her grandchild while beaming from ear to ear.
MIL is only allowed to smile briefly at the baby, and then she must focus all her attention on her DIL, in order to avoid the accusation that she only sees her DIL as a vessel.

The last sentence here really made me laugh (I’m a MIL - amongst other things - with 3 sons and no daughters) because of course if you do what it says in the last sentence you could be accused of having no interest whatsoever in the child

I have to say that fortunately this has not been my experience but that of friends - I realise that I’ve been lucky so far 🤞🏻

every grandchild here has been welcomed with equal pleasure and anticipation and treated equally- which doesn’t always mean getting exactly the same things

from a grandparent point of view there is a particular joy that you don’t understand until you are a grandparent and it’s not being mean it’s pure fact - as a gp you get the pleasure without the pain, worry, responsibility, sleepless nights, time and financial pressure

it can help to remember that every new addition to every family raises different feelings and emotions for different people within the family dynamic

if you’re struggling to think whether you’re being unreasonable or not ask yourself if you’d be just as annoyed if a friend did it

It sometimes seems that MILS just can’t do right

di2004 · 17/08/2024 00:36

Don’t persecute her for being happy to have a grandchild.
She sounds like she’s over the moon with the new arrival.

saraclara · 16/08/2024 23:44

Is it really fair to add "don't look too happy when your grandchild is born" to the list of things MILs are expected to do?

The baby's mum can look adoringly at the baby. Her mum can gaze lovingly at her grandchild while beaming from ear to ear.
MIL is only allowed to smile briefly at the baby, and then she must focus all her attention on her DIL, in order to avoid the accusation that she only sees her DIL as a vessel.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 16/08/2024 23:44

Hate to break it to you OP - but your MIL is part of your family! She's your husband's mum 🙄

CubistViolin · 16/08/2024 23:43

MumDaisy1980 · 13/08/2024 11:00

Thanks everyone! I do understand it's indeed pretty trivial matters as noted in my post. Probably as some of you mentioned it's the hormones, new mum being overprotective kicked in. In some way pleased to hear I'm not alone, but when in the situation - I had felt I was alone, and whole world was constantly saying you should do this , you should do that and yes not felt single recognition of the achievements I accomplished so far.. the baby is grown healthily. Yes, for the 'just wait till...' comments I really took it as 'wait you suffer' kind of tone. Also, I could see MIL did try not overstepping but in many occasions I felt like she is nosy to the extent I don't understand why she would need the information. Like when gave birth, she wanted to know all the information of the labour - what position I was in ... what DH doing in the labour room and EVERYTHING! eventually, yes I did breakdown to DH several times during my pregnancy and motherhood about his family being too much. So DH did hinted to them saying if we not asked for advice or request anything, that's mean we are all good. Besides, I have a baby to busy on and really no time to reply all their messages/invites anymore. As much as I recognise we are now a family but I guess there is a difference on the closeness among family members.

Thanks everyone again for your comments and I feel better now. 🙂

Just say ‘Why do you want to know that?’or smile and say ‘Now, X, I don’t think you really need chapter and verse on my positions in labour, do you?’ and change the subject.

The ‘Just you wait’ stuff is mildly irritating, sure, but she’s trying to connect on something.

My own MIL, who could take a prize in tactlessness and total lack of imagination, would tut continually at DH holding DS and say ‘Oh, you don’t know what it was like, having three children before your 21st birthday, and raising them on nothing!’ DH attempted to be patient for some time, but eventually caved and said ‘Yeah, mum, it was precisely because we didn’t want to be raising three babies in two damp rooms over a shop that we had one child on two salaries in our 30s.’

She can’t quite get over the idea that we’re getting away with something, and fails to see that having a total of five children very young, on no money and in a tiny space, was not compulsory. That the universe doesn’t give her extra points.

ilovepixie · 16/08/2024 23:35

Poor little baby having a granny who loves him so much! 🤨🤨

ZoeCM · 16/08/2024 23:29

I actually can't believe you're objecting to the fact that your MIL had a look of "tremendous happiness" on her face! If she didn't look happy, you'd be annoyed that she seemed disengaged from her grandchild. Is it really fair to add "don't look too happy when your grandchild is born" to the list of things MILs are expected to do?

merryhouse · 16/08/2024 22:59

I've had a thought about the "wait until" comments which honestly hadn't occurred to me before.

If (at a point you're feeling relatively chill) lots of older mothers tell you that Aspect X of parenting is tricky, then when you're struggling with Aspect X you're likely to remember this and think "oh yeah, it's just the n-month retrogression" or whatever, instead of thinking aaaaaaargh I'm a terrible mother I've ruined this tiny life.

(and of course if you happen to sail through Aspect X, you get to feel momentarily smug which, be honest, is an enjoyable feeling)

Screamingabdabz · 16/08/2024 22:53

These are the kind of threads I want to point to when people gormlessly ask why there is often gender disappointment with boys.

beanii · 16/08/2024 22:27

She's just excited and reliving the baby days that's all.

No harm done and be super grateful - my parents OR in laws weren't interested in our 3.

Maray1967 · 16/08/2024 22:23

OP, I’m of the view that PIL should not be commenting on the likely sex of the baby as in one is better or more longed for, or whether the baby is small etc. But the comments about ‘wait until …’ are pretty harmless, if a bit annoying.

saraclara · 16/08/2024 22:19

SkeletonBatsflyatnight · 13/08/2024 10:44

Besides, our baby is the 10th grandchild in the fam - I somehow found our baby got especially too much attention and I don't understand why.

Any chance your dh is your mil's youngest child and/or the only boy?
My mil adores my kids over her other grandchildren because they're her baby boy's kids. They are also the youngest grandchildren.

Or maybe she's just one of those loving grandmas (like my MIL) who adore all her grandchildren, doesn't have favourites and was equally excited at all their arrivals. .

saraclara · 16/08/2024 22:15

She couldn't be more normal. And it's absolutely fantastic that she's just as excited and loving about grandchild #10!

You know that instinctive love you feel as a new mother? The way you look at your baby with awe and love? The way I felt when I saw each of my granddaughters for the first time, was as close to that as it gets. That instinctive feeling. A new member of the family. The next generation. Your child's child. I'm pretty certain that I was grinning line a fool.

And that's the love I still feel, and what helps to bond us as an extended family who look out for each other and help each other.

You should be so happy that your baby has such a warm and loving grandma.

HauntedbyMagpies · 16/08/2024 22:10

My god you've written down and criticised every single comment she's ever made! You are hyper critical! Why???? You say you can’t understand why she is happy about the baby?!?!

ALL grandparents say that the best part of having a grandchild is being able to enjoy them and then give them back! That's a perfectly normal thing to say. Because it's true!

Give the poor woman a break and let her be a grandmother for f sake

PreggersWithBaby2 · 16/08/2024 22:05

@time2changeCharlieBrown I agree, I had to re read some parts too 🙈

VivaciousRadish · 16/08/2024 22:03

It’s reads perfectly clearly

I’m the grandmother in this situation. My daughter has a five month old, and oh my god, everyone told me that being a grandparent is amazing, but I wasn’t expecting it.

Those things she’s said about teething, and nappy changes are just facts, although there’s no need to state them. I made my daughter a birthday card from her baby son. I knew her partner wouldn’t, and I like making cards. I know my daughter didn’t think I was treading on anyone’s toes, but I wonder about her boyfriend now. I don’t really care! He didn’t think to get one, I don’t think cards have featured heavily in his life, but now he’s seen it, he’ll know for next year, hopefully

time2changeCharlieBrown · 16/08/2024 21:56

It’s quite hard to understand from how you gave written this, I had to re read a few times but I am tired 😂
from what I can interpret I think yabu she sounds fine and I think it’s nice she’s interested especially as you say the tenth gc
my parents would be less bothered after much less gc 😂

so it seems nice she is getting involved and I think her comments are just from excitement and just trying to help you see what stages you will get to experience and be prepared but I don’t think it’s in a bad way
just don’t overthink it and enjoy your new baby and having family that are there for you

5475878237NC · 16/08/2024 21:45

ClemmyTine · 13/08/2024 09:35

You will understand it all if you are lucky enough to become a grandmother.

That's what I was thinking. I can imagine holding my child's baby and feeling all the feelings come flooding back to holding my own...and all the love of knowing this child is from you and part of your family. It's all good OP. She sounds amazing to me!

MangoMadness999 · 16/08/2024 21:40

This is so weird. Your MIL IS family. That's a fact

PreggersWithBaby2 · 16/08/2024 21:27

There are many threads on here about the "just wait....." comments! They are incredibly frustrating but I'd be very surprised if you've only heard them comments from your MIL and nobody else!

Unless there's underlying issues or a background of some sort, YABU. Try to keep telling yourself about the positives of the relationship your MIL has with her grandchildren or you will start resenting her for no valid reason.

ohthejoys21 · 16/08/2024 21:23

ClemmyTine · 13/08/2024 09:35

You will understand it all if you are lucky enough to become a grandmother.

This. If she was indifferent to your baby you probably wouldn't like that either!!

Sjh15 · 16/08/2024 21:23

This is Honeslty just how people are around a new baby. It’s weird I agree but it is how it is. Let them be, it’s nice they are excited and wanting to be involved

Daisybuttercup12345 · 16/08/2024 21:19

Totally normal.
MIL is not the weird one here.
Take a hard look at yourself OP!!

ZoeCM · 16/08/2024 21:18

ttcat37 · 13/08/2024 10:04

Don't expect much support on Mumsnet about this - it’s full of interfering grandmothers who feel they have a claim to their grandchildren or that they have a right to be involved in any way they want.

I feel your pain though. It’s like they get a kick out of reminding you that you’ve got hard times to come. The glee on their faces when they say “just you wait until he’s walking/ teething/ terrible twos” like they can’t wait to see you suffer. It makes me want to say oh just fuck off will you? But we don’t do that do we, we smile sweetly and we take it in our stride and don’t give them the satisfaction.

Eh? I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm nowhere close to being a grandmother! The OP's MIL has done nothing wrong.

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